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  • European Lee
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2002
    • 7133
    #1

    Serious Question... Why Dont More Straight Webmasters..

    Promote gay market sites?

    Just wondered why there are not many straight webmasters promoting gay paysites when there are thousands of gay webmasters promoting straight sites?

    Could some of you please explain this phenomenon to me i just dont get it

    Money is money whether it is made from a straight surfer or a gay surfer isnt it?

    Or does it come down to the fact that a lot of straight webmasters simply do not understand how to market gay surfer traffic?

    Regards,

    Lee
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    • exposed
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2004
      • 1449
      #2
      I am all for promoting what sells. Doesn't matter to me
      "I felt victimized by the Ian Eisenbergs of the world" - Mary Burger

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        • Dagwolf
          President of Canada
          • Sep 2003
          • 23141
          #3
          I made a couple of gay freesites experimentally. I just didn't like doing it; I wasn't able to judge from the pics what was sexy and what wasn't (to a gay person)... had the same problem with writing text.
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            • European Lee
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2002
              • 7133
              #4
              Originally posted by Dagwolf
              I made a couple of gay freesites experimentally. I just didn't like doing it; I wasn't able to judge from the pics what was sexy and what wasn't (to a gay person)... had the same problem with writing text.
              Did you ask for any help?

              Regards,

              Lee
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                • zdwebber
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 768
                  #5
                  I wouldn't know how to market a gay site to get the most out of it. And like Dagwolf said, I have no idea what turns a gay man on, so I have no idea what i would do.

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                    • baddog
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Apr 2001
                      • 107089
                      #6
                      you have to know what you are marketing, and most straight guys don't know how to market gay sites, just like trying to sell "for women."

                      I know a lot of straight guys that try to sell gay, some succeed, some don't

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                        • Doctor Dre
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 51692
                          #7
                          Cauz it's kinda sick to us ... I don't like / appreciate seeing cock daily ... so hourly ? no thx

                          I'm not homophobic... i have some people that I know are gay and everything . I don't mind gays, I just don't wanna see cocks
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                            • BradM
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 3397
                              #8
                              It's hard to promote a niche if you're not interested in it yourself. For example I couldn't do granny, gay, shemale, pissing etc etc.
                              If you can't handle looking at the content how can you expect to market it effectivly?

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                                • WarChild
                                  Let slip the dogs of war.
                                  • Jan 2003
                                  • 17263
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by BradM
                                  It's hard to promote a niche if you're not interested in it yourself. For example I couldn't do granny, gay, shemale, pissing etc etc.
                                  If you can't handle looking at the content how can you expect to market it effectivly?


                                  Even if you can look at it, you don't know what's attractive about it to others. Makes it very hard to market.
                                  Last edited by WarChild; 08-28-2004, 11:38 AM.
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                                    • dennisthemenace
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2003
                                      • 2668
                                      #10
                                      I have a few gay domains and send a little traffic to gay sites.. But I don't really work on 'em...

                                      For me personally, being a straight guy - I can't honestly say I love what I do if I'm looking at guys all day..

                                      All the best to you

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                                        • frank7799
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 1974
                                          #11
                                          1. Honestly, gay is somehow suspect to me. So I never really thought about promoting it.

                                          2. Reading your thread maybe I´ll give it a try. But htere are some problems, as mentioned before:

                                          - I don´t know what content would really do;
                                          - I won´t find the right text descriptions.

                                          So i think it won´t work for me without help.

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                                            • 12clicks
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 19814
                                              #12
                                              I used to own rumpwranger.com, coloncowboy.com and homohillbilly.com and intended to create a whole gay cowboy suite of sites but my heart wasn't in it.
                                              I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                • crockett
                                                  in a van by the river
                                                  • May 2003
                                                  • 76818
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by European Lee
                                                  Promote gay market sites?

                                                  Just wondered why there are not many straight webmasters promoting gay paysites when there are thousands of gay webmasters promoting straight sites?

                                                  Could some of you please explain this phenomenon to me i just dont get it

                                                  Money is money whether it is made from a straight surfer or a gay surfer isnt it?

                                                  Or does it come down to the fact that a lot of straight webmasters simply do not understand how to market gay surfer traffic?

                                                  Regards,

                                                  Lee
                                                  I think only metrosexual webmasters can bridge this gap
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                                                    • Evil1
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                      • 3893
                                                      #14
                                                      Gotta draw the line somewhere, and drawing it right before guys balls deep in other guys asses seems like the place to put my line down.

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                                                        • fris
                                                          I have to go potty
                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                          • 55806
                                                          #15
                                                          i am a straight webmaster i run a gay tgp
                                                          i submit gay galleries to sublimedirectory
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                                                            • bringer
                                                              i have man boobies
                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                              • 13082
                                                              #16
                                                              id do it if i knew what would sell
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                                                                • exposed
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                  • 1449
                                                                  #17
                                                                  "I felt victimized by the Ian Eisenbergs of the world" - Mary Burger

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                                                                    • WarChild
                                                                      Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                      • 17263
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by fris
                                                                      i am a straight webmaster i run a gay tgp
                                                                      i submit gay galleries to sublimedirectory
                                                                      Some people can get away with doing it. Some even do it well. It's just not for all straight webmasters, that's all.

                                                                      I don't sell Japanese Bukkake either. Too often it looks like flat out abuse to me.
                                                                      .

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                                                                        • TDF
                                                                          Triple OG nigga on GFY
                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                          • 27296
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Evil1
                                                                          Gotta draw the line somewhere, and drawing it right before guys balls deep in other guys asses seems like the place to put my line down.



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                                                                            • European Lee
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                              • 7133
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Well it would seem that most of the concerns seem to be that many of you dont know what sells or how to market the sites.

                                                                              Again how many of yu have actually asked for help with this market?

                                                                              Regards,

                                                                              Lee
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                                                                                • dready
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                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                  • 5247
                                                                                  #21
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                                                                                    • Reak
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                      • 17920
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Good question Lee.

                                                                                      Personally i dont like looking at Gay content + i dont do gallery submissions. I would never run a Gay site because the content makes me sick.

                                                                                      I like watching at nude girls with shaved pussies.

                                                                                      I heard the gay market is a good one, one that converts so i would say goodluck making money with it, you probelly enjoy it too.

                                                                                      So do i with the straight market

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                                                                                        • detoxed
                                                                                          vip member
                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                          • 17798
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Promote what you know. Sounds pretty simple? How can you promote something if you know nothing about it, know nothing about what the people looking for it want?

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                                                                                            • Joesho
                                                                                              want to get in shape
                                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                                              • 12329
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                              I used to own rumpwranger.com, coloncowboy.com and homohillbilly.com and intended to create a whole gay cowboy suite of sites but my heart wasn't in it.
                                                                                              yeah I am sure you had trouble figuring out the cowboy part huh LOL









                                                                                              J/K I couldn't resist, the temptation was too strong LOL
                                                                                              Got any domains to sell?
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                                                                                                • Joesho
                                                                                                  want to get in shape
                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                                  • 12329
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Lee, I would like to talk with guys that run strictly gay only TGP's and gain some perspective from them, I have an idea... can we have a sit down in Vegas?
                                                                                                  Got any domains to sell?
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                                                                                                    • Nate-MM2
                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                                      • 263
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      I'm straight and make gay sites (as well as straight sites)... and know a lot of others that do the same.

                                                                                                      I may not know the market inside out, but the Queer As Folk DVD box-set helps me stay somewhat on the cutting edge of trends & lingo.

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                                                                                                        • 12clicks
                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                                          • 19814
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Joesho
                                                                                                          yeah I am sure you had trouble figuring out the cowboy part huh LOL









                                                                                                          J/K I couldn't resist, the temptation was too strong LOL
                                                                                                          I had the pink chaps
                                                                                                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                            • railz
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Nov 2001
                                                                                                              • 2531
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by European Lee
                                                                                                              Promote gay market sites?

                                                                                                              Just wondered why there are not many straight webmasters promoting gay paysites when there are thousands of gay webmasters promoting straight sites?

                                                                                                              Could some of you please explain this phenomenon to me i just dont get it

                                                                                                              Money is money whether it is made from a straight surfer or a gay surfer isnt it?

                                                                                                              Or does it come down to the fact that a lot of straight webmasters simply do not understand how to market gay surfer traffic?

                                                                                                              Regards,

                                                                                                              Lee

                                                                                                              It comes down to the fact Lee that many younger webmasters see promoting gay sites as a reflection on them, and since they're so insecure they'd rather go an add another teen site to the ten million already out there.

                                                                                                              Money is money. I've written about this on countless occasions on pornresource.com.
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                                                                                                                • Monique Niccole
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                  • 5653
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                                                                                  Cauz it's kinda sick to us ... I don't like / appreciate seeing cock daily ... so hourly ? no thx

                                                                                                                  I'm not homophobic... i have some people that I know are gay and everything . I don't mind gays, I just don't wanna see cocks

                                                                                                                  So I take it you only promote softcore sites? No male-female hardcore?

                                                                                                                  Money is money to me and gay money spends just like straight money.

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                                                                                                                    • 12clicks
                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                      • 19814
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                                                                                      Cauz it's kinda sick to us ... I don't like / appreciate seeing cock daily ... so hourly ? no thx

                                                                                                                      I'm not homophobic... i have some people that I know are gay and everything . I don't mind gays, I just don't wanna see cocks
                                                                                                                      ahahaha,
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                                                                                                                      "my friends are gay"
                                                                                                                      "how many times can I say cock"


                                                                                                                      he doth protest too much
                                                                                                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                        • mardigras
                                                                                                                          Bon temps!
                                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                          • 14194
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Nate-MM2

                                                                                                                          I may not know the market inside out, but the Queer As Folk DVD box-set helps me stay somewhat on the cutting edge of trends & lingo.
                                                                                                                          Heaven help us if the new gay sterotype is Brian Kinney

                                                                                                                          I watched Dynasty so I know what rich folks were like in the 80's
                                                                                                                          .

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                                                                                                                            • Doc911
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                                                                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                              • 3695
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              I got my first 500 dollar affiliate check from a gay site I promoted on a amateur girl site.

                                                                                                                              I put a banner on her site and said something about how she likes to see all the big cocks.


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                                                                                                                                • Nate-MM2
                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                  • 263
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                                                                                  Heaven help us if the new gay sterotype is Brian Kinney

                                                                                                                                  I watched Dynasty so I know what rich folks were like in the 80's
                                                                                                                                  I use it mostly just to understand what certain terms mean.... seems they show up there months before urbandictionary.com and the like....

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                                                                                                                                    • bigdog
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                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 6964
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      what is the biggest gay tgp out there?

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                                                                                                                                        • emmanuelle
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 3662
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Because 1/2 these guys are homophobic, insecure 18 year olds living in their mom's sewing room. They only know how to sell teen, and have no imagination about anything else. To them a 24 year old is mature-lol

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                                                                                                                                              • 19422
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by exposed
                                                                                                                                              I am all for promoting what sells. Doesn't matter to me
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                                                                                                                                                • SomeCreep
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                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 26118
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by European Lee
                                                                                                                                                  Promote gay market sites?
                                                                                                                                                  Perhaps because they dont enjoy it? To some, looking at gay pics grosses them out to the point of gagging.

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                                                                                                                                                    • EviLGuY
                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 12745
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by European Lee
                                                                                                                                                      Promote gay market sites?

                                                                                                                                                      Just wondered why there are not many straight webmasters promoting gay paysites when there are thousands of gay webmasters promoting straight sites?

                                                                                                                                                      Could some of you please explain this phenomenon to me i just dont get it

                                                                                                                                                      Money is money whether it is made from a straight surfer or a gay surfer isnt it?

                                                                                                                                                      Or does it come down to the fact that a lot of straight webmasters simply do not understand how to market gay surfer traffic?

                                                                                                                                                      Regards,

                                                                                                                                                      Lee
                                                                                                                                                      I've made some gay sites and what not.. but really I've found it to be a bit of a waste of my time. I guess I am not marketing to them correctly.

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                                                                                                                                                        • magicmike
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                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
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                                                                                                                                                            • Peaches
                                                                                                                                                              Old broad
                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 13933
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              I've heard from many gay men that they can tell immediately when a site (gallery, SEO site) has been done by a straight man or woman.

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                                                                                                                                                                • EviLGuY
                                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 12745
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by European Lee
                                                                                                                                                                  Well it would seem that most of the concerns seem to be that many of you dont know what sells or how to market the sites.

                                                                                                                                                                  Again how many of yu have actually asked for help with this market?

                                                                                                                                                                  Regards,

                                                                                                                                                                  Lee
                                                                                                                                                                  Why bother? I have a ton of other niches I know how to market already.. I don't want to make gay sites for the sake of having gay sites.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Corona
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 2185
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by European Lee
                                                                                                                                                                      Or does it come down to the fact that a lot of straight webmasters simply do not understand how to market gay surfer traffic?
                                                                                                                                                                      I don't know shit about marketing to gay surfers but Ijust bought my first domain for a gay male site a few days ago.

                                                                                                                                                                      Will be visiting the site in your sig for info soon.
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                                                                                                                                                                        • SykkBoy2
                                                                                                                                                                          Jesus loves bacon
                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                                          • 19969
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          I just bought a couple gay domains and am going toplune headfirst into the market

                                                                                                                                                                          I'll be hitting you up Lee to pick your brain...of course I also have a lot of friends in the gay community, so I'll have a couple them come over and give me some tips and pointers...
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                                                                                                                                                                            • kmanrox
                                                                                                                                                                              aka K-Man
                                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                                              • 29295
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              also more than half of the str8 webmasters on the net are in it because they like to talk about how they get to look at naked chicks all day... and they jerk off a few times a day to it... gay sites would damage their ego and bragging rights...

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