12 Clicks was right. Again. Our enemy is not Republicans but ...

12 clicks is the same thing rehashed over and over.
He calls you names, throws in keyboard warriors, and a 1orgsmile and thinks he is really clever.

With 12clicks =

Good thing about it is that they named it an excise tax in the bill - that means the consumer has to pay it - similar to the tax added to the sale of gasoline.

Also noted that the CEO of Vivid was on MSNBC coutering the whole thing this morning - and they actually allowed him to say what was important - that we already do check the ages by requiring the use of CCs to enter a site

credit card verification to check ones age is illegal according to the credit card association rules. i didnt see the interview but i hope he didn't make it sound that way.

any online business (mainstream or adult) can only hope and assume the person on the other end making a cc purchase is of age but having a cc does not mean you are of age.

Cassie - the CC thing has been brought up many times over the last 9 years - and it has always been used to the biz's advantage - going back to the AVS's and all other attempts at CDA's that the gov't has tried. Fortunately it has never really been used as a legal defense to my knowledge as the EFF and others that file the suits against the CDA's were always able to get them thrown out of free speech grounds.

If my memory serves right it stems from the old phone sex biz when kids used to rack up hundreds/thousands of dollars on phones - the biz had to go to CCs as proof that they were "of age".

I do agree with you, however the reality is that the CCs have been thrown up as a defense frequently as the "age check".
Personally my opinion is that this all just another little hoopla like the 12 other attempts that congressmen have tried to do the same thing over the last 5 years - the bill gets introduced - it goes to committee and gets put away.
Ive said it before - but there is no congressman in their right mind that is going to legitimize this industry by voting for a tax on it.
Secondly - there is a bill that has already gone through the house and is in the senate right now that prohibits any taxes on the internet for another 2 years - the law right now states that you cannot tax "services" on the internet.

rehashed over and over by nobodies like yourself. you misinterpret my lack of interest for being clever just as you misinterpret your chat board troll status as meaningful.

do you have a link to this? i'd love to read it.

funny that no one has a clue as to what is going on. if what you say is true, then how can an excise tax bill even be allowed to brought to the floor for consideration?

Real (not nominal) alcohol taxes have actually decreased since World War II.

Not sure how you would tease out the effect you speak of. Per capita alcohol consumption is down in the US the past 20 years. Smoking is down too. Now I would say that is mostly due to cultural/health changes. Less people are smoking though. Due to taxes? Maybe. Maybe not. Here is what happened in Oregon in just two years in the late 1990s though. A 10% tax was followed by a 10% drop in consumption.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00056574.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...s/00001960.gif

fuck it gets old correcting you ignorant kids.


the south always voted democrat because the south used to be extremely poor and the people wanted massive social programs. As a result, 20 years ago, you couldn't get elected to dog catcher in the south unless you were a democrat.

As business and industry grew along with communication sources, middle class citizens began to realize conservative values.

In the south, Nursing homes and college dorms are filled with democrats, everyone else is more conservative than your average liberal.


Its a common misconception that backwoods southern rednecks vote repulican. Those people still vote democrats along with the inner cities which in most cases are made up of a majority of minorities. LOL

The surburbs of the cities create the red states.

Insult > keyboard warrior/troll

Same thing over and over

Lincoln, in a release obtained by XBiz, said her legislation would help relieve the anxieties experienced by families due to the lack of controls they have over what their children view online.
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OMG so many programs for parental control

and yet you keep searching out my posts to be insulted over and over. (like one day I'm going to wake up and treat trash differently)

Porn is not illegal. Obscenity is. Taxing porn will not make those who want to prosecute what they deem to be obscene go away. No good can come of it.

If true liberals rubbed a magic lamp and got a genie wish, we would have government issued boxes to access the internet and taxed per usage with some sort of timesharing clock.

They would explain it as helping the public by giving everyone equal access.

Blah blah. Avoid the issue of you not being able to argue effectively and simply insulting and avoiding. Blah blah. Same thing over and over.

yeah, if I argued with you, you might mentally twist me into a pretzle and that scares me to death.

after all, with all those accomplishments you have, you must be brilliant.
can you list your accomplishments for the class so you can show everyone how mentally outclassed I am?