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  • DeadFidel
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2003
    • 6764

    #1

    Why do surfers cancel?

    Curious; 1022 trial signs ups so far in August, 460 cancellation.
    Reasons,
    71% Satisfied customer
    17% Unsatisfied with content
    12% Misc., speed, only trial, and terms.

    I have a fascination with these stats. How much emphasis and or attention do you pay to them, and what do you feel is a good ratio?
  • freeadultcontent
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2002
    • 9976

    #2
    hint satisfied customer is often the default choice.

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    • Elli
      Reach for those stars!
      • Apr 2003
      • 17991

      #3
      I think it's pretty much a knee-jerk reaction by now to cancel as soon as you finish signing up. I know I've learned my lesson a few times over. Gr.
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      • sixxxthsense
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2004
        • 2419

        #4
        they cancel cuz they just wanna get inside and see what u got to offer! they try to download as much as possible in 3 days or so and then jerk off 3 months or so!

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        • Adult Site Traffic
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2003
          • 5093

          #5
          Originally posted by freeadultcontent
          hint satisfied customer is often the default choice.
          Yea, but a lot of times they just want to see what's in there.
          I don't have a problem with a non-chargeback customer staying 30 days.

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          • freeadultcontent
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2002
            • 9976

            #6
            Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic
            Yea, but a lot of times they just want to see what's in there.
            I don't have a problem with a non-chargeback customer staying 30 days.
            Oh I know. Just saying not to give to much weight to answer 1.
            The unsatisfied with content one always annoys me though.

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            • SykkBoy2
              Jesus loves bacon
              • Feb 2001
              • 19969

              #7
              Originally posted by freeadultcontent
              Oh I know. Just saying not to give to much weight to answer 1.
              The unsatisfied with content one always annoys me though.
              Have you tried sending a followup email to the "satisfied" ones? Refer them to anothe site of yours or another site (with refcode) to another program? Maybe they just got bored of the content or are looking for something different.
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              • Steen2
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2004
                • 7662

                #8
                Some members areas are crap.

                #1 reason?
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                • freeadultcontent
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 9976

                  #9
                  Originally posted by SykkBoy2
                  Have you tried sending a followup email to the "satisfied" ones? Refer them to anothe site of yours or another site (with refcode) to another program? Maybe they just got bored of the content or are looking for something different.
                  Yup I do. I just do not over mail them.

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                  • webmaster x
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 4400

                    #10
                    Originally posted by freeadultcontent
                    hint satisfied customer is often the default choice.

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                    • GatorB
                      The Demon & 12clicks
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 18208

                      #11
                      Surfers have been conditioned that if it's on the net it should be free.

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                      • Doctor Dre
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jan 2001
                        • 51692

                        #12
                        You can download the whole member aera of a paysite in a trial most of the time ...
                        Originally posted by rayadp05
                        I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                        • Goatse
                          Confirmed User
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 2086

                          #13
                          "Thank you. I've already blown by load and downloaded all of your content. Best $4 I've ever spent!"

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                          • SykkBoy2
                            Jesus loves bacon
                            • Feb 2001
                            • 19969

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                            You can download the whole member aera of a paysite in a trial most of the time ...
                            unless they don't get full 100% access on the trial ;-)))
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                            • NichePay_Manny
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 1833

                              #15
                              Good point what is the secret to keep them?

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                              • B40
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2001
                                • 7020

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Elli
                                I think it's pretty much a knee-jerk reaction by now to cancel as soon as you finish signing up. I know I've learned my lesson a few times over. Gr.
                                Sign up, cancel, download all the content and watch it later

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                                • twistyneck
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 4660

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by B40
                                  Sign up, cancel, download all the content and watch it later
                                  That's kind of what I do except it is more like this: Sign up, cancel, download all the content, start building.

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                                  • gdog
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Aug 2004
                                    • 1550

                                    #18
                                    The old Bait and switch routine normally makes them cancel.

                                    Site teasers reel them into the site, and they that is all the site really offers.

                                    Our sites are just 10 bucks a month, they get 2 new girls per week which is a mission for us to get new content.

                                    And they stay for awhile, around 5 months right now and then they bounce for now reason.

                                    We give them every oppertunity to tell us what they want, but these guys jack off and leave.

                                    I wish it was like magazine subscriptions where they buy for the year. Out of all the joins we have had less than 5% join for a year, we do get a good amount of 6 month members though.

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                                    • Goatse
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Sep 2003
                                      • 2086

                                      #19
                                      They've downloaded enough jack-off content for a couple of years. Why would they pay $40 when they have all they need?

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                                      • Reak
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Mar 2003
                                        • 17920

                                        #20
                                        Some tips for better rebills

                                        1. Build more sites and give your member access to all
                                        2. Buy exclusive content
                                        3. Update on time and let them know when like

                                        Monday is picture day
                                        Wednesday is picture day
                                        Friday is special movie day because weekend is coming

                                        4. Make your member area personal, tell them you're a girl and you want them to email you about there sex lifes
                                        5. Protect your movies by streaming them, so they cant join for 3 dollar and download all your movies
                                        6. I think this 5 tips are enough for now

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                                        • Groove
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2003
                                          • 3852

                                          #21
                                          Have you seen inside many paysites? Most are utter crap!

                                          And many sponsors use prechecked upsells.

                                          I'd say these are the two main reasons for cancellations.

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                                          • julioxp
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Aug 2004
                                            • 160

                                            #22
                                            One very important thing is not only to offer something, but it has to be cool content, innovative, every time updated.
                                            The you hace to track what works for you and replace for new things.
                                            Apart from that you need to keep running a good marketing campaign to keep up all your sites.

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                                            • Praguer
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Dec 2002
                                              • 991

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Reak
                                              Some tips for better rebills

                                              1. Build more sites and give your member access to all
                                              2. Buy exclusive content
                                              3. Update on time and let them know when like

                                              Monday is picture day
                                              Wednesday is picture day
                                              Friday is special movie day because weekend is coming

                                              4. Make your member area personal, tell them you're a girl and you want them to email you about there sex lifes
                                              5. Protect your movies by streaming them, so they cant join for 3 dollar and download all your movies
                                              6. I think this 5 tips are enough for now

                                              It amazes me how many sites have great everything, banners, galleries, tours and a shity member's area.

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                                              • Reak
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Mar 2003
                                                • 17920

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Praguer
                                                It amazes me how many sites have great everything, banners, galleries, tours and a shity member's area.
                                                Yeah it's a shame

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                                                • robfantasy
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                  • 6445

                                                  #25
                                                  what site were these stats from
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                                                  • BrainClaude
                                                    Registered User
                                                    • Dec 2003
                                                    • 37

                                                    #26
                                                    Update......I think this is the only good reason why a member would stay if he can download everything.......He might stay if he knows that when he come back, plenty of new video and picture will be there waiting for him.....

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                                                    Claude
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                                                    • johndoebob
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                      • 3405

                                                      #27
                                                      Most people will choose trial because they want much content for less money and download as much as possible before they cancel.

                                                      If the member area isn't that good most will cancel too of course.

                                                      For many people a one girl a month update isn't enough to leave a 25-30 bucks membership going.

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                                                      • GatorB
                                                        The Demon & 12clicks
                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                        • 18208

                                                        #28
                                                        I rememebr pay $5 to rent ONE porno at teh damn video store. Now every complains abot $40 a month. Hell that's was a week-end's worth of videos to me.

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