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I only went full time in this business in late 2002, part-time in late 2000. I valued my degree more at the time so I focused on finishing school. In some ways I regret it but I was really close to finishing my degree, I didn't want to lose the first 2.5 years down the drain...
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i love you wg.
but seriously, it was silly money at that point. are there people here still, who did not take advantage, but were around? i suppose 2002/2003 were my very best years (if only i'd fully scaled up a couple of years earlier).we'll miss you our friend. RIPComment
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I was making a lot then...
but im making a lot now too so........Comment
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The profit margins back then were really obscene, but it was a new industry and very unregulated so it was like the wild west. Now that things have calmed down, margins are shrinking and its harder to make a buck. I think we all wished we did more during the boom but what's important is where we go from hereOriginally posted by quiet
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What about those who started in 95-96?
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I've come to accept the fact that I'll never make the kind of money that some of you guys do. I'll never be rich, hell... I'll never even be "well off" but that's ok.
As much as I want to, I don't think that I really need to. And so it doesn't really bother me as much as it used to.Comment
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I got in at early/mid 2002 full time. It seems like it was eaiser to make a buck back then. Deluxe Pass was my first sponsor that took off. It wasnt long before i was doing 20k a month sending about 2k hits a day to my archive. I knew it wouldnt last forever so I didnt go silly with that money and just took what i needed, saved ALOT of it and reinvested the rest back into Duke Dollars. Then for reasons I can only specualte, Deluxe Pass litterally stopped. We're talking 1500 members down to 300 in a 3 month period. Glad i saved my money and reinvested it
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I was dumb.Originally posted by quiet
I concentrated in the wrong things.
Been around since 1996, and have had nothing but wrong choices until just around 2002 or so...and I'm off.Comment
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can you ever become rich when you work for someone? sure if the company allows you to move up in it... but if not then no.Originally posted by NichePay - StuartDComment
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I started out 99 and have been around all the time since then......still not making too many K a month..... and didnt do back then either....Originally posted by quiet
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I'd say dumb is someone who doesn't realize his mistakes and the learns from them.Originally posted by TeenGodFather
I've been around for quite some time myself and while I sometimes wish I would've concentrated on this more at an earlier stage of my involvement in this industry, I do not regret the choices I made and the things I concentrated on instead. Over the years I've done a lot of research and testing on a lot of things in this biz and I am truly thankful that I was patient enough not to rush in head-first, as that could've made for some major damage. Now I know a lot about pretty much every aspect of this biz and I can, without much fear or effort, set up a successful operation regardless of what I choose to focus on. I've had (and still have) success in certain areas and it's only natural for me to start diversifying.Whitehat is for chumps
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You are my inspiration buddy for reasons you will find out in due course!Originally posted by DukeSkywalkerI got in at early/mid 2002 full time. It seems like it was eaiser to make a buck back then. Deluxe Pass was my first sponsor that took off. It wasnt long before i was doing 20k a month sending about 2k hits a day to my archive. I knew it wouldnt last forever so I didnt go silly with that money and just took what i needed, saved ALOT of it and reinvested the rest back into Duke Dollars. Then for reasons I can only specualte, Deluxe Pass litterally stopped. We're talking 1500 members down to 300 in a 3 month period. Glad i saved my money and reinvested it
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If I would have started in 97 I would post from my own caribean island nowComment
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Wished I worked even harder in 1999-2001 it was way too easy
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You guys actualy make money selling porn!?!
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Yeah, we leave winning postwhore contests to people like you.Originally posted by iggysickYou guys actualy make money selling porn!?!
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Mate you can be as big as you WANT to be. If you aim low your will reach your goal i'm sure. But is that where you want to be? Nah man aim for the stars and if you land on the moon well thats ok. But don't aim for the moon and end up in the drink.Originally posted by NichePay - StuartD
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Im happy I didnt get into this industry during those days, I would be pretty frustrated now. Im doing fine even now and better every month.
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you took the words out of my mouthOriginally posted by Matt_WCComment
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Quiet,
If we all would have taken advantage of things, don't you think you would have made less?
Saturation is one issue today. And it is one issue that contributed too the slimming of margins, not too mention reckless behavior. It is funny to see people complain about Processing fees. I bet some of you wish you could go back in time and make Processing accounts 25k to start.Comment
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I only stared working for someone in February... I was on my own before then.Originally posted by AlkyComment
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2000 still brings a tear to my eye 
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I made a huge mistake of getting out the industry around late 2000 after i made some decent money. The reason being that I was underage, and didn't know better.
Then in April of 2004 I stumbled upon GFY, tried some adult projects that didn't take off, and now kicking ass in mainstream. 2005 is a GOOD year.
Funny thing is, me doing good in mainstream is all because of people I've met on GFY.
... but I still regret getting out in late 2000
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The good thing is, it would be so easy for EVERYONE to go back to the days of 97-03, the problem is, nobody actually wants to
Istead, they choose to pander to the thousands of noobs who join the industry on an almost monthly basis whilst not realizing that it is these same people who are saturating the markets and cutting everyones slice of the pie thinner
As i say, getting back to the days of '97-'03 would be REAL easy to do unfortunately, the state of the industry today means its not gonna happen anytime soon
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hell I still got to sell dope to make a living
its ayght tho..im my own biggest client
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Funny thing is, I played around in porn back in the stone age, before anyone even knew what the Internet was, it was maybe 1990 or something and I posted mac porn movies on compuserve with ads to buy a few floppy disk quicktimes for $20.
I must have made maybe 15K in one month. Got bored as piss though just duplicating floppy disks all day and lost intrerest, porn always took a back seat with me to my "real" business.
Got back in in 2003, did well but not the kind of numbers I know would have been easy 2 years earlier. Anybody thinks all the money in porn is over though hasn't looked at the way things work - more than likely the biggest porn operations 10 years from now don't exist today, think about it.I have no signatureComment
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In business since 2002
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EXACT same hereOriginally posted by Sjelefall
But now I'm doing better than ever, so I can't really complain
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if you think you cant become rich still, youre outta your mind. try harder. you can be wrong and fail 1000 times, but you only need to be right once
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Originally posted by NichePay - StuartDI love these two posts. And anyone saying different about "how you should have done this" or "how you should have done that" can fuck off.Originally posted by WiredGuy
No really. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. (no, not anywhere near directed at quiet's post).
Hindsite's 20/20, and even though it's a lame expression, it basically leaves an open to learn from the past. For those that can innovate off of what was done in the past, it doesn't matter what year / date / time of day it is.
Innovate or die.
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In '99 my bank account was zero. Today it's zero. I haven't gained, but I sure as hell haven't lost either.
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rough break hehe my banks been on the rise since 04 when i startedOriginally posted by Mike33In '99 my bank account was zero. Today it's zero. I haven't gained, but I sure as hell haven't lost either.
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2001 was my best year so far (the only year I hit 7 digits in pure profit), and 2006 will be 10 times that if everything happens as planned with my new mainstream venture.Comment
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I started up in October of 2001. Making shitloads more now. Just gotta learn from your mistakes and move on and try some new stuff.Comment
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i never made tons of cash but my main downfall was letting myself ride on my success. after going from 0 to 10k/month within 2 months of doing it i thought it would last forever and ended up spending 1999-2002 having fun and not working much at all which i do regret but there is still lots of money left in this biz, you just have to work for it now.Last edited by BlackCrayon; 07-23-2005, 10:53 AM.you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..Comment
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Very good fucken question.Originally posted by quiet
Its complicated.
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i made a shitload until Xpics went bankrupt, then i got discouraged and quit, they owed me a fuckload of cash.no sigComment
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Haha I had a nice ride with Xpics.. the first check I ever got from anything onlineComment
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Speaking of Xpics, that was indirectly the first steps on how I got into adult. Someone stole my credit card number and racked up a ton of charges to XPics. I went to see what it was and a few weeks later, I became a webmaster. Go figure, someone stealing my CC number got me into this business. LOL
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The first-ever check I got was from Xpics for about $2K and that was a week or two after I started sending traffic.. it was when they had $25/signup.. so that was kinda motivating to say the leastOriginally posted by WiredGuy
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I've been around since mid '98. Got my start with AVS sites. I make way more now but the money was waaaaaaaaay easier then.
Back then I was a college kid working part time making less than $1K monthly. Almost overnight I was at $10K monthly and haven't looked back.
I remember the Adult Check link list used to send great traffic and instant sales.
To get this in perspective... if you do free sites now you need to mirror your site dozens of times, get it listed on dozens of link lists and do that daily for like a year before u would see a good return. (just guestimating here since I don't do this anymore)
Back then building 10 simple ass Adult Check sites would get you an easy $5K-$20K a month. (simple sites with 30 pics and a bunch of upsell banners)
I'm talking back in 98. Every year it's gotten harder and harder. I think 96-98 was the true golden era when people made fuck you money super easily without blinking an eye. I'm talking the mega millions with 1/20th of todays work.Last edited by Meloman; 07-23-2005, 12:14 PM.Comment
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Stuart, don't you think that's an unhealthy attitude? You're right that you dont NEED to be rich, but if you think you might like to, why hold yourself back with preconcieved notions of what you can and can't accomplish?Originally posted by NichePay - StuartD
Don't say "I'll never be able to afford ..." instead try asking "What can I do so I can afford to buy ... ?"
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Nice to hear that there is so many xpics generation guys still around here. Makes me feel old though.
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Been here since 1994 and been making more money every year since ! This will be my best year ever once again.
I think the best is still yet to come. Things have changed and what once worked no longer does and new things are sure to come. If your new you cna still become very rich if you innovate and come up with something new no one else has ever done. but a lot of things have to come together just prfect for it to happen so it has alot to do with LUCK !Comment
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