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He wasn't fired from a government job. He was fired from a privately owned company. The whole "freedom of speech" thing doesn't apply. He should have been fired.I like pie.Comment
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Did you even read the story?Originally posted by Tom_PM
Shocking that it can happen? Yes.
Surprising that it happens under this regime..errr... administration? No. Not even a little bit.
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Living in AMERICA gives ME the right to fire people I don't like...Originally posted by GatorB
I live in AMERICA right?
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/South/08/....ap/index.html
Wait -- that goes against YOUR definition of freedom.
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another one who didnt read the articleOriginally posted by EviLGuY
America is starting to sound more and more like the old Soviet empire.
Toe the party line or get canned.. and don't try taking a plane from one part of your country to the other without your "papers".
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Yes, I read the whole story, whats your point?Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
Did you even read the story?
Did you jump to the conclusion that my statements were about free speech? Thats the wrong assumption to make.
The point is that the intolerance of people these past few years has become borderline extremist. If I own a company and dont like the political views of my employee, I fire them. Thats intolerant, and it's shocking to me that close minded people do such things.
Keeping an open mind and tolerant attitude is important. When running a company, and when reading messages.Comment
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Keep telling yourself that...Originally posted by EviLGuY
Toe the party line or get canned.. and don't try taking a plane from one part of your country to the other without your "papers".Comment
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Did you jump to the conclusion that MY statement was about free speech? I just asked if you read the article. Let's say one of your employees did something to offend one of your biggest clients. Would you not fire them in an instant?Originally posted by Tom_PM
Yes, I read the whole story, whats your point?
Did you jump to the conclusion that my statements were about free speech? Thats the wrong assumption to make.
The point is that the intolerance of people these past few years has become borderline extremist. If I own a company and dont like the political views of my employee, I fire them. Thats intolerant, and it's shocking to me that close minded people do such things.
Keeping an open mind and tolerant attitude is important. When running a company, and when reading messages.I like pie.Comment
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Oh well then my mistake. I did make an assumption that since you took the time to ask if I'd read it with the obligatory laugh, together with your comment above about free speech, that your unspoken point was that everyone who gets upset when this type of thing happens doesnt understand that a private company has a right to hire and fire as they see fit.Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
Did you jump to the conclusion that MY statement was about free speech? I just asked if you read the article. Let's say one of your employees did something to offend one of your biggest clients. Would you not fire them in an instant?
Just wanted you to know that for my part, with my comments, that was already taken into account ahead of time.
Perhaps a memo to the staff that an important client was sponsoring tickets for an event with the president, and that any anti-bush sentiments would result in termination would have been in order.
Maybe that was done, the story doesnt say. One thing is for sure though, that company got plenty of publicity from the firing, if from nothing else.
At any rate, I dont like this type of thing making the news. It highlights how devisive we seem to have gotten. The devision existed before the last election judging by the results.. and it doesnt seem to have healed over much. I think it's sad.Comment
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No one remembers the union thugs beating on clinton protesters?
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Was this a company sponsored event?Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
Did you jump to the conclusion that MY statement was about free speech? I just asked if you read the article. Let's say one of your employees did something to offend one of your biggest clients. Would you not fire them in an instant?
Was he being payed to be there?
Or was he there off the clock under his own free will?Comment
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The client supplied the tickets.Originally posted by junction
Was this a company sponsored event?
Was he being payed to be there?
Or was he there off the clock under his own free will?I like pie.Comment
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they was also doing business with iraq while cheney was ceo, he had a subsidiary in europe doing the business though...you know with that pesky red tape (un sanction) and allOriginally posted by freeadultcontent
Haliburton does business with Iran.
(another senseless post)
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I think the firing in this case was ok. It's doesn't seem appropriate to do what he did considering the circumstances. There is a time and place to voice (or in this case shout) your political opinion, but not at a rally with your boss who received tickets from a client. And remember I'm not a Bush supporter. It's more a common sense or discretionary issue here.Comment
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He was only working there for 5 months and he pissed off a generous client with good connections, I would have fired him too unless he was a very good asset to the company. He was at the event as a company representative, embarrassing and disrespecting a client like that is very uncalled for, especially when it's an advertising firm.PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price!
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It does apply here in canada and SHOULD apply in the states .Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
He wasn't fired from a government job. He was fired from a privately owned company. The whole "freedom of speech" thing doesn't apply. He should have been fired.
If the gov start controling private compagnies, they can control votesOriginally posted by rayadp05I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?Comment
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Doctor Dre:
Start? They started this years ago - and do control votes thru corrupt slush funds - it's called a "democracy" in the US.If the gov start controling private compagnies, they can control votes
This protection of Bush's image in not allowing others to speak against "God's little helper" is in itself corrupt and not limited to the sacking of an ad man.
The FBI have already visited the homes of one hell of a lot of people and "advised" them it's not a good idea to show any "opposition' to God. If that happened in a real democracy, folks would fall over laughing and maybe some conspiracy charges for perverting something would be pending.
I can't wait to see the fuck up over election figures this time around... amusing if not so pathetic.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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He was not fired for having a political view that the company did not agree with. He was fired for embarrassing what was obviously an important client. I'm sure you'd love it if an employee of yours was pissing off your clients and by doing so ,sending them elsewhere.Originally posted by Tom_PM
Yes, I read the whole story, whats your point?
Did you jump to the conclusion that my statements were about free speech? Thats the wrong assumption to make.
The point is that the intolerance of people these past few years has become borderline extremist. If I own a company and dont like the political views of my employee, I fire them. Thats intolerant, and it's shocking to me that close minded people do such things.
Keeping an open mind and tolerant attitude is important. When running a company, and when reading messages.26 + 6 = 1Comment
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Yeah I hear you, and as I mentioned it might have been good to check it ahead of time or something. Also for all we know, his boss argued on his behalf for 5 hours with the client. We dont know from the article. Coulda been a 2 minute call and his boss followed through, coulda been 10 hour discussion and boss reluctantly agreed. No telling from that article.Originally posted by chodadog
He was not fired for having a political view that the company did not agree with. He was fired for embarrassing what was obviously an important client. I'm sure you'd love it if an employee of yours was pissing off your clients and by doing so ,sending them elsewhere.
You also cant tell from the article if the client was a first timer with no future contracts. We're all assuming it was a make or break client, among other things. It's still disturbing, but less than it could be for instance if he was a 10 year employee in excellent standing rather than a 5 month loser, lol.Comment
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Pig shit.Originally posted by Webby
Doctor Dre:
Start? They started this years ago - and do control votes thru corrupt slush funds - it's called a "democracy" in the US.
This protection of Bush's image in not allowing others to speak against "God's little helper" is in itself corrupt and not limited to the sacking of an ad man.
The FBI have already visited the homes of one hell of a lot of people and "advised" them it's not a good idea to show any "opposition' to God. If that happened in a real democracy, folks would fall over laughing and maybe some conspiracy charges for perverting something would be pending.
I can't wait to see the fuck up over election figures this time around... amusing if not so pathetic.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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how dare bush put himself in a position to get heckled
the man is evil
god you people are all hypocrites
you make these threads implying its bushs fault and yet when anyone on this board supports bush in anyway you jump all over him/her. i guess if you had an employee who came on this board and called someone important a flaming homo pedo you wouldnt care at all. get over it and make more threads about juicys cock.333-765-551Comment
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I like to be succinct when possible. The majority of your posts are more than ridiculous and "more than ridiculous" equals pig shit.Originally posted by Webby
theKing:
This fetish you got with pig shit is unusual king. Or are you saying you are in pig shit to your elbows??
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I knew if I read far enough down someone would save me the trouble of saying thatOriginally posted by Gunni
I would find this a lot more worrying...
"Last month, Charleston City Council apologized to two protesters arrested for wearing anti-Bush T-shirts to the president's July 4 rally. "
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theKing:
The majority of your posts are more than ridiculous and "more than ridiculous" equals pig shit.
Ah... I'm please for ya that you ain't elbow deep in pig shit - that would not be too good!
And... in your "succinct" fashion can you point out *one* fact of the above which is ... according to you - "pig shit"? Just interested
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theKing:
Na.. don't bother.. I ain't got time for your crap just now. All of the above is valid and is/has happened recently. This is not limited to the above, but extends to other areas - another example of the "anti Bush" t-shirts was just given.This protection of Bush's image in not allowing others to speak against "God's little helper" is in itself corrupt and not limited to the sacking of an ad man.
The FBI have already visited the homes of one hell of a lot of people and "advised" them it's not a good idea to show any "opposition' to God. If that happened in a real democracy, folks would fall over laughing and maybe some conspiracy charges for perverting something would be pending.
Your imbecile comments are "ridiculous".
Go stuff some of that pig shit up your all your holes and enjoy!
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No, it shouldn't apply here. If I have an employee that I want to fire for upsetting a client, I should have that right. If I want to fire him for farting loud, that's my right as a business owner.Originally posted by Doctor Dre
It does apply here in canada and SHOULD apply in the states .
If the gov start controling private compagnies, they can control votesI like pie.Comment
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Originally posted by Webby
Doctor Dre:
Start? They started this years ago - and do control votes thru corrupt slush funds - it's called a "democracy" in the US.
This protection of Bush's image in not allowing others to speak against "God's little helper" is in itself corrupt and not limited to the sacking of an ad man.
The FBI have already visited the homes of one hell of a lot of people and "advised" them it's not a good idea to show any "opposition' to God. If that happened in a real democracy, folks would fall over laughing and maybe some conspiracy charges for perverting something would be pending.
I can't wait to see the fuck up over election figures this time around... amusing if not so pathetic.
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Originally posted by chodadog
He was not fired for having a political view that the company did not agree with. He was fired for embarrassing what was obviously an important client. I'm sure you'd love it if an employee of yours was pissing off your clients and by doing so ,sending them elsewhere.
Sounds to me like he was fired for having a political view. The company that supplied the tickets obviously were Bush supporters or they wouldnt have had the tickets. Simply a case of Bush supporters trying to silence the opposition.Comment
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He embarrassed his company, he could have cost them the client. I hate Bush as much as the next guy, but he deserved to be fired.
Read the end of that article though...
Now THAT'S fucked up.Last month, Charleston City Council apologized to two protesters arrested for wearing anti-Bush T-shirts to the president's July 4 rally. The pair were taken from the event in restraints after revealing T-shirts with Bush's name crossed out on the front and the words "Love America, Hate Bush" on the back. Trespassing charges were ultimately dismissed.Comment






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