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  • Doctor Dre
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jan 2001
    • 51692

    #51
    Originally posted by Doctor Dre
    Bump
    Originally posted by rayadp05
    I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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    • Doctor Dre
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jan 2001
      • 51692

      #52
      Originally posted by Doctor Dre
      bump
      Originally posted by rayadp05
      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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      • DamageX
        Marketing & Strategy
        • Jun 2001
        • 14293

        #53
        Originally posted by MikeHawk
        Woah....hey didnt I just read a post the other day that "perfection girls is converting amazing"


        Conversions alone won't pay your rent, they're irrelevant if the mothefucker doesn't pay.
        Whitehat is for chumps

        If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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        • Doctor Dre
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jan 2001
          • 51692

          #54
          Bump
          Originally posted by rayadp05
          I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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          • crockett
            in a van by the river
            • May 2003
            • 76818

            #55
            damn it funny how he's allways around in the other topics talking about how good his conversions are and how he's paid everyone.. yet totally ignores this topic maybe one day you will get paid Rowan
            In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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            • beemk
              CLICK HERE
              • Jan 2002
              • 20829

              #56
              Originally posted by Rich
              People actual take that jackass seriously when he says he's paid everyone back?
              yeah really, i wonder if anyone is really promoting him.
              I host with Vacares

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              • bryany
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2001
                • 2037

                #57
                ya ya, I'll fill this in later...

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                • Adult Site Traffic
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                  • Mar 2003
                  • 5093

                  #58
                  Originally posted by MikeHawk
                  Woah....hey didnt I just read a post the other day that "perfection girls is converting amazing"


                  Yea, but getting paid still sucks

                  Bumpo ..

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                  • TheWildcard
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 4759

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                    Bump

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                    • Adult Site Traffic
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                      • Mar 2003
                      • 5093

                      #60
                      He's not all scammer tho. I bet he paid Lens for the banner spot bump

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                      • DamageX
                        Marketing & Strategy
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 14293

                        #61
                        Originally posted by beemk
                        yeah really, i wonder if anyone is really promoting him.
                        Never underestimate the powerful combination of greed and stupidity.
                        Whitehat is for chumps

                        If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                        • Manowar
                          jellyfish  
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 71528

                          #62
                          im suprised to see no response yet

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                          • DamageX
                            Marketing & Strategy
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 14293

                            #63
                            Originally posted by Manowar
                            im suprised to see no response yet
                            You are? I'd be surprised if I saw a reply from him.
                            Whitehat is for chumps

                            If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                            • Adult Site Traffic
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                              • Mar 2003
                              • 5093

                              #64
                              Originally posted by DamageX
                              You are? I'd be surprised if I saw a reply from him.
                              I agree with you. He probably has to re-format or something.

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                              • EviLGuY
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 12745

                                #65
                                Originally posted by rowan
                                You may have seen Jeff bleating on GFY recently about how he's made everything right. Well, he hasn't. PG still owes me a small amount for rebills that I was not credited for.

                                Here's where my journey started:

                                http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=217887


                                January 9th 2004:
                                - sent an email asking for an official response
                                - Jeff replied saying it would be "handled by tomorrow"

                                January 11th 2004:
                                - sent affiliate ID to Jeff

                                January 17th 2004:
                                - sent reminder prod

                                January 23rd 2004:
                                - sent reminder prod
                                - first reply: "Hey ya.. sorry.... our system when down here and I had to-reformat the HD"
                                - second reply he worked it out: I'm owed $37.41

                                January 26th 2004:
                                - sent reply to Jeff pointing out that he promised to pay 3X the amount for any missed rebills.

                                Feb 13th 2004:
                                - sent reminder prod
                                - "Ahhh I have also reformated since then and lost my old email logs."
                                - "I will get that off to you."

                                February 27th 2004:
                                - sent reminder prod
                                - "We are undergoing some huge chages here, but you can rest assured you will get your 112.23."

                                March 21st 2004:
                                - sent reminder prod

                                March 30th 2004:
                                - sent reminder prod


                                ...around here I simply gave up, it wasn't worth wasting my time. Until...


                                August 2nd 2004:
                                - Jeff emailed me out of the blue and asked for wire info

                                August 4th 2004:
                                - I reply with the details

                                August 15th 2004:
                                - sent reminder prod
                                - "I will be that the home office tomorrow and these issue will be settled."

                                August 19th 2004:
                                - sent reminder prod



                                So that's 7 reminders so far to pay me a measly $112.23

                                That's what is so fucked up about this whole thing, he promised 8 months ago to send me $112.23. How hard is it to send someone a hundred bucks?

                                I think I'll be giving up again, but not before creating this thread.
                                Just a bump.. because it's funny.

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                                • rowan
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Mar 2002
                                  • 17393

                                  #66
                                  Jeff says the wire has been sent. It's the weekend here so it hasn't made it to my account yet, I'll post again with more news once the business week starts. I really hope this time it's coming.

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                                  • RRACY
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Dec 2003
                                    • 1393

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by rowan
                                    Jeff says the wire has been sent. It's the weekend here so it hasn't made it to my account yet, I'll post again with more news once the business week starts. I really hope this time it's coming.
                                    If the check clears please don't come on here and post what a great guy he is.
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                                    • AkiraSS
                                      Wemaxa.com
                                      • Jan 2003
                                      • 2989

                                      #68
                                      jeff did the check sent - wire sent - wu sent, but nothing arrived in the end until I told him I will go public on GFY. He sent out a WU immediately which actually arrived.

                                      After that he told me he sent $2000 in checks and wires which got lost and that he got all pissed b/c of the time lost and that he will never do business with foreign webmasters again.

                                      heh..

                                      since then, we don't accept work unless it's been prepaid to us

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                                      • Doctor Dre
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jan 2001
                                        • 51692

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic
                                        He's not all scammer tho. I bet he paid Lens for the banner spot bump
                                        Originally posted by rayadp05
                                        I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                        • Doctor Dre
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 51692

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by AkiraSS
                                          jeff did the check sent - wire sent - wu sent, but nothing arrived in the end until I told him I will go public on GFY. He sent out a WU immediately which actually arrived.

                                          After that he told me he sent $2000 in checks and wires which got lost and that he got all pissed b/c of the time lost and that he will never do business with foreign webmasters again.

                                          heh..

                                          since then, we don't accept work unless it's been prepaid to us
                                          How can a wire get lost ? You can get wrong swift or something ... but getting lost ? WTF
                                          Originally posted by rayadp05
                                          I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                          • SureFire
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2003
                                            • 4398

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by rowan
                                            Jeff says the wire has been sent. It's the weekend here so it hasn't made it to my account yet, I'll post again with more news once the business week starts. I really hope this time it's coming.

                                            Took long enough. Let us know the outcome.

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                                            • Pornkings
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 5334

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by rowan
                                              You may have seen Jeff bleating on GFY recently about how he's made everything right. Well, he hasn't. PG still owes me a small amount for rebills that I was not credited for.

                                              Here's where my journey started:

                                              http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=217887


                                              January 9th 2004:
                                              - sent an email asking for an official response
                                              - Jeff replied saying it would be "handled by tomorrow"

                                              January 11th 2004:
                                              - sent affiliate ID to Jeff

                                              January 17th 2004:
                                              - sent reminder prod

                                              January 23rd 2004:
                                              - sent reminder prod
                                              - first reply: "Hey ya.. sorry.... our system when down here and I had to-reformat the HD"
                                              - second reply he worked it out: I'm owed $37.41

                                              January 26th 2004:
                                              - sent reply to Jeff pointing out that he promised to pay 3X the amount for any missed rebills.

                                              Feb 13th 2004:
                                              - sent reminder prod
                                              - "Ahhh I have also reformated since then and lost my old email logs."
                                              - "I will get that off to you."

                                              February 27th 2004:
                                              - sent reminder prod
                                              - "We are undergoing some huge chages here, but you can rest assured you will get your 112.23."

                                              March 21st 2004:
                                              - sent reminder prod

                                              March 30th 2004:
                                              - sent reminder prod


                                              ...around here I simply gave up, it wasn't worth wasting my time. Until...


                                              August 2nd 2004:
                                              - Jeff emailed me out of the blue and asked for wire info

                                              August 4th 2004:
                                              - I reply with the details

                                              August 15th 2004:
                                              - sent reminder prod
                                              - "I will be that the home office tomorrow and these issue will be settled."

                                              August 19th 2004:
                                              - sent reminder prod



                                              So that's 7 reminders so far to pay me a measly $112.23

                                              That's what is so fucked up about this whole thing, he promised 8 months ago to send me $112.23. How hard is it to send someone a hundred bucks?

                                              I think I'll be giving up again, but not before creating this thread.
                                              Don't worry you will get paid. you think $112.23 is going to break our bank.
                                              we have put all our resources after the show into becoming 2257 compliant with the new regs wether they pass or not. some things are just more important playa.

                                              Lets see who's going to comply in 30 days

                                              Pornkings.com

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                                              • Pornkings
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 5334

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by MikeHawk
                                                Woah....hey didnt I just read a post the other day that "perfection girls is converting amazing"


                                                Yep lets go head to head you up for it?

                                                we will get 10 webmasters to send there traffic to both programs and see who makes the webmasters the most money.

                                                you down?

                                                Or we can both make a post on the board for the webmasters to show there best and worst converions from both our programs.
                                                I'll even give our webmasters an extra $25 to post there best and worst converion with us.

                                                whatever you want to do I'm down.
                                                Pornkings.com

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                                                • GonZo
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                  • 3180

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by Pornkings
                                                  Don't worry you will get paid. you think $112.23 is going to break our bank.
                                                  we have put all our resources after the show into becoming 2257 compliant with the new regs wether they pass or not. some things are just more important playa.

                                                  Lets see who's going to comply in 30 days

                                                  Roger did you black out too?
                                                  Assclown Bob Rice wants to BANG your credit card!
                                                  "I am putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage."
                                                  All the information above is my personal opinion.

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                                                  • AkiraSS
                                                    Wemaxa.com
                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                    • 2989

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                    How can a wire get lost ? You can get wrong swift or something ... but getting lost ? WTF
                                                    yeah lost, I gave him perfect info

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                                                    • rowan
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                      • 17393

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by Pornkings
                                                      Don't worry you will get paid. you think $112.23 is going to break our bank.
                                                      we have put all our resources after the show into becoming 2257 compliant with the new regs wether they pass or not. some things are just more important playa.

                                                      Lets see who's going to comply in 30 days

                                                      I guess that means Jeff was also preparing for the brand spanking new 2257 regs back in January, February, March......?

                                                      There is no need to patronise me about the amount I'm owed. I won't go without food if it doesn't arrive. I'm only pursuing this on principle now.

                                                      Just a thought: would you also delay your current affiliate payments because you were busy preparing for 2257? I would guess NO, so why is this situation any different.

                                                      I really expected that your response would be a little more positive considering that everything bad that Perfection Jeff does - and did in the past - ultimately tarnishes your programs rep.

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                                                      • Pornkings
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                        • 5334

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by rowan
                                                        I guess that means Jeff was also preparing for the brand spanking new 2257 regs back in January, February, March......?

                                                        There is no need to patronise me about the amount I'm owed. I won't go without food if it doesn't arrive. I'm only pursuing this on principle now.

                                                        Just a thought: would you also delay your current affiliate payments because you were busy preparing for 2257? I would guess NO, so why is this situation any different.

                                                        I really expected that your response would be a little more positive considering that everything bad that Perfection Jeff does - and did in the past - ultimately tarnishes your programs rep.
                                                        Regular payouts go out on schedule. when half the programs fold withing the next couple months. we will see who's getting paid etc.

                                                        we are a very reputable company and have paid our webmasters for over 8 years. we have over 1500 webmasters that send traffic to us on a daily basis.

                                                        YOu will get paid our office has been very busy this week.
                                                        wether you want to undetstand it or not is up to you.

                                                        We had no involvement back in Jan, feb, march. I agree Jeff fucked up but he lost his buisness because of it.
                                                        Last edited by Pornkings; 08-20-2004, 06:32 PM.
                                                        Pornkings.com

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                                                        • egonetworks
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                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                          • 6706

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by Pornkings
                                                          Regular payouts go out on schedule. when half the programs fold withing the next couple months. we will see who's getting paid etc.

                                                          we are a very reputable company and have paid our webmasters for over 8 years. we have over 1500 webmasters that send traffic to us on a daily basis.

                                                          YOu will get paid our office has been very busy this week.
                                                          wether you want to undetstand it or not is up to you.
                                                          THIS week - what about the last 6 months.

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                                                          • fatal attraction
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                            • 6522

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by RRACY
                                                            If the check clears please don't come on here and post what a great guy he is.
                                                            No kidding!!!

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                                                            • Pornkings
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 5334

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by egonetworks
                                                              THIS week - what about the last 6 months.

                                                              Do you have any idea what has taken place over the last six months?

                                                              Do you have traffic?
                                                              Pornkings.com

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                                                              • egonetworks
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                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                • 6706

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by Pornkings
                                                                Do you have any idea what has taken place over the last six months?

                                                                Do you have traffic?
                                                                Yes.

                                                                Yes.

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                                                                • Pornkings
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 5334

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by egonetworks
                                                                  Yes.

                                                                  Yes.
                                                                  I don't believe you
                                                                  Pornkings.com

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                                                                  • PRETTYONE
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                                    • 124

                                                                    #83


                                                                    100 bucks might break your bank! haha. Reputable, I think not. Shady Shady Shady is all I have to say about that!

                                                                    If you were so reputable you would have handled the 100 bucks when you took over PC.

                                                                    And show stats if its converting so well, back it up baby!

                                                                    oh, and how much is in the Lotto Pool? Just the amount you put in to start it still???

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                                                                    • SureFire
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                      • 4398

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by Pornkings
                                                                      Don't worry you will get paid. you think $112.23 is going to break our bank.
                                                                      we have put all our resources after the show into becoming 2257 compliant with the new regs wether they pass or not. some things are just more important playa.

                                                                      Lets see who's going to comply in 30 days

                                                                      No offense PornKings but apparently Jeff had a big problem paying a 100.00 + debt, even though he spouted that he paid everyone that he owed since he has come clean.

                                                                      I find it amusing that you retired from GFY board and handed your nick to someone else. Saying that you put all your resources into a show and to be complaint doesn?t sound to good. JMO,

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                                                                      • Pornkings
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                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                        • 5334

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by PRETTYONE


                                                                        100 bucks might break your bank! haha. Reputable, I think not. Shady Shady Shady is all I have to say about that!

                                                                        If you were so reputable you would have handled the 100 bucks when you took over PC.

                                                                        And show stats if its converting so well, back it up baby!

                                                                        oh, and how much is in the Lotto Pool? Just the amount you put in to start it still???
                                                                        Going to back it up now
                                                                        Pornkings.com

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                                                                        • egonetworks
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                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                          • 6706

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by Pornkings
                                                                          I don't believe you
                                                                          Come on down to Mexico, I'll show you what real traffic and real mainstream business is.

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                                                                          • MikeHawk
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                                            • 6683

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by Pornkings
                                                                            Yep lets go head to head you up for it?

                                                                            we will get 10 webmasters to send there traffic to both programs and see who makes the webmasters the most money.

                                                                            you down?

                                                                            Or we can both make a post on the board for the webmasters to show there best and worst converions from both our programs.
                                                                            I'll even give our webmasters an extra $25 to post there best and worst converion with us.

                                                                            whatever you want to do I'm down.
                                                                            THE AMBUSH INTERVIEW

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                                                                            • Pornkings
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                              • 5334

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by egonetworks
                                                                              Come on down to Mexico, I'll show you what real traffic and real mainstream business is.
                                                                              Post your URL's

                                                                              I'll be heading to mexico alot this year maybe we can do some biz
                                                                              Pornkings.com

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                                                                              • Pornkings
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                • 5334

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by MikeHawk
                                                                                So what your saying is you don't convert better then us?
                                                                                Pornkings.com

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                                                                                • egonetworks
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                  • 6706

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by Pornkings
                                                                                  Post your URL's

                                                                                  I'll be heading to mexico alot this year maybe we can do some biz
                                                                                  I meant next week - I'm in a different country almost weekly meeting with our mainstream customers; this week just happens to be my meetings with Telmex.

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                                                                                  • MikeHawk
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                                                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                                                    • 6683

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by Pornkings
                                                                                    So what your saying is you don't convert better then us?
                                                                                    Well.....this is not really about you and me is it?
                                                                                    THE AMBUSH INTERVIEW

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                                                                                    • PRETTYONE
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                                      • 124

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by Pornkings
                                                                                      Going to back it up now

                                                                                      Don't make me break out my guns son!

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                                                                                      • PRETTYONE
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                                                        • 124

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by Pornkings
                                                                                        Post your URL's

                                                                                        I'll be heading to mexico alot this year maybe we can do some biz
                                                                                        When in Mexico, don't drink the water- you are already full of enough shit.

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                                                                                        • baddog
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                                          • 107089

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by psyko514
                                                                                          it's kinda 5:18 AM. even scammers have to sleep.

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                                                                                          • FTVGirls
                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                                            • 1052

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            paypal still owes me $318.30 for a year now

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                                                                                            • Pornkings
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                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                              • 5334

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=344049&s=
                                                                                              Pornkings.com

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                                                                                              • baddog
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                                                • 107089

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by MikeHawk
                                                                                                Woah....hey didnt I just read a post the other day that "perfection girls is converting amazing"


                                                                                                well, it is possible that it is . . . . . nothing says the affiliates are getting paid though . . . unless Roger is taking care of things . . I would be inclined to trust him.

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                                                                                                • baddog
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                                                  • 107089

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Manowar
                                                                                                  im suprised to see no response yet
                                                                                                  really?

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                                                                                                  • PRETTYONE
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                                                                                                    • Jul 2004
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                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Quote from Roger V :

                                                                                                    "damn that sucks but give it a little more time. not sure how you promoted them."


                                                                                                    WOW 14 POSTS AND 4 ARE YOURS!! NICE JOB!

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                                                                                                    • freeadultcontent
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                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      still going?

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