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  • MrIzzz
    If u touch it, I will cum
    • Sep 2003
    • 22923
    #1

    TGP experts and 2257

    someone please sum up and give me the cliff-notes of the effects of 2257 on thumb and text TGPs come august 24th.

    i am preparing all my sites now and have an idea of whats going on but i need specific detail.

    what will make a TGP compliant to 2257?


    if you dont wanna answer here then post an url for direct information so that i can read it when i come back from drinking tonight


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    • the Shemp
      congrats to the winners
      • Nov 2001
      • 10891
      #2
      just do what the Hun does without the beasty galleries and you should be okay...

      i use Vacares...so should you
      Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

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        • .:St Ides:.
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2004
          • 4857
          #3

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            • hy777
              I have 6 credit cards, each buying 1 trial a day
              • May 2003
              • 56
              #4
              Here is a fully compliant one.

              Generating nice income too. More importantly, Ashcacacropht-safe.

              http://www.my-sex-story.com/ThisTGPi...euniverse.html
              Last edited by hy777; 08-20-2004, 04:02 PM.

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                • clickhappy
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 4027
                  #5
                  Originally posted by hy777
                  Here is a fully compliant one.

                  Generating nice income too. More importantly, Ashcacacropht-safe.

                  http://www.my-sex-story.com/ThisTGPisfullycompliantwiththelawsoftheuniverse.ht ml
                  i actually clicked that

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                    • hy777
                      I have 6 credit cards, each buying 1 trial a day
                      • May 2003
                      • 56
                      #6
                      good boy.

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                        • MrIzzz
                          If u touch it, I will cum
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 22923
                          #7
                          Originally posted by hy777
                          Here is a fully compliant one.

                          Generating nice income too. More importantly, Ashcacacropht-safe.

                          http://www.my-sex-story.com/ThisTGPi...euniverse.html





                          lmfaooooooooooo

                          you got me


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                            • MrIzzz
                              If u touch it, I will cum
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 22923
                              #8
                              Originally posted by the Shemp
                              just do what the Hun does without the beasty galleries and you should be okay...

                              thats what my plan is right now. i've been getting descriptions for all of my FHGs and galleries so that i can make the switch over easier.


                              i'm still interested in knowing how to make a thumb TGP fully compliant. will i need to gather documentation on every gallery cropped? will cropping just faces and NN suffice?


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                                • enter »
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2004
                                  • 2362
                                  #9
                                  I have a couple thumb tgp's and here's what I plan to do.

                                  I am gonna place one 2257 link on the bottom of the tgp that goes to a page I'm putting together now. It will have links to every sponsors 2257 page that I use on that site. It's a lot of work collecting them cause my sponsor list is almost 100 strong.

                                  This may not be compliant by the letter of the law but if I go to jail for this, then I'm moving to another country the day I get out.

                                  «-- offer extended through New Years (icq286487452)

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                                    • MrIzzz
                                      If u touch it, I will cum
                                      • Sep 2003
                                      • 22923
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by enter »
                                      I have a couple thumb tgp's and here's what I plan to do.

                                      I am gonna place one 2257 link on the bottom of the tgp that goes to a page I'm putting together now. It will have links to every sponsors 2257 page that I use on that site. It's a lot of work collecting them cause my sponsor list is almost 100 strong.

                                      This may not be compliant by the letter of the law but if I go to jail for this, then I'm moving to another country the day I get out.
                                      thats not a bad idea, but what about submitted galleries?


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                                        • enter »
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2004
                                          • 2362
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by MrIzzz
                                          thats not a bad idea, but what about submitted galleries?
                                          I don't take submissions so I can't help ya there. 100% sponsor hosted galls.
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                                            • the Shemp
                                              congrats to the winners
                                              • Nov 2001
                                              • 10891
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by MrIzzz
                                              thats not a bad idea, but what about submitted galleries?
                                              Izz, as a minimum i would use only softcore images on a thumb preview TGP..thats not legal advice..just my advice...
                                              i use Vacares...so should you
                                              Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

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                                                • teenoffice
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                  • 415
                                                  #13
                                                  Put your domains on a friends name wich lives outside the States done.

                                                  The Hun is dutch so why should he care LOL. this law only goes up for US based people

                                                  it has nothing to do with the location of your server.
                                                  Last edited by teenoffice; 08-20-2004, 04:41 PM.
                                                  Nothing here.

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                                                    • sixxxthsense
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                      • 2419
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by teenoffice
                                                      Put your domains on a friends name wich lives outside the States done.

                                                      The Hun is dutch so why should he care LOL. this law only goes up for US based people

                                                      it has nothing to do with the location of your server.
                                                      I heard otherways NO???

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                                                        • Reak
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 17920
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by teenoffice

                                                          The Hun is dutch so why should he care LOL. this law only goes up for US based people
                                                          USA people who submit galleries to the hun?

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                                                            • Reak
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                              • 17920
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by sixxxthsense
                                                              I heard otherways NO???
                                                              fix your sig.

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                                                                • sixxxthsense
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                  • 2419
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Reak
                                                                  fix your sig.
                                                                  is it too big?

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                                                                    • jonesy
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                      • 6688
                                                                      #18
                                                                      aaronm has his finger on the pulse of the new 2257 shiznit. hit him up.

                                                                      if your site promtes porn youll need docs for every model featured/shown on your site, wether theyre your pics or not. that goes for banners ads ect.

                                                                      thats pretyy much the gist of it
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                                                                        • Reak
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                          • 17920
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by sixxxthsense
                                                                          is it too big?
                                                                          link wasnt working

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                                                                            • crockett
                                                                              in a van by the river
                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                              • 76818
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by enter »
                                                                              I have a couple thumb tgp's and here's what I plan to do.

                                                                              I am gonna place one 2257 link on the bottom of the tgp that goes to a page I'm putting together now. It will have links to every sponsors 2257 page that I use on that site. It's a lot of work collecting them cause my sponsor list is almost 100 strong.

                                                                              This may not be compliant by the letter of the law but if I go to jail for this, then I'm moving to another country the day I get out.
                                                                              that is no where near compliant for the new law and in reality that's what you should already have on your site. If you don't have that on your site now you are already in violation of the current 2257, technically speaking. So you better hurry up and move



                                                                              From what I see in the new law.. it's not a lot of physical things that need changed to the sites themselves.. But most are changes to the amount of records you have at your place of business.

                                                                              For example on your webpages, you will have to have your full business contact info right their on the main page (this will be your place of business and location of the 2257 records)

                                                                              You don't have to provid links to models ID's on the web however you are supposed have on file (either paper or digital) records for all sexually explicit content hosted on your server(s).

                                                                              So a text site should be exempt if you only link to sponsor hosted or submitted galleries that have 2257 info. Thumbs however are the tough one.. as long as they are not sexually explicit you shouldn't need a 2257 (2256 tells you what is considered sexually explicit)
                                                                              But for any thumbs that are sexually explicit you will have to have on file the proper 2257 info.

                                                                              there is also something about having link information about everywhere that content is used, on the web.. That IMO won't affect TGP owners a lot, but could be a nightmare for program owners, content producers and gallery submitters. I haven't looked into that part as much because it dosen't affect me that much.


                                                                              Anyway that's what I get from reading the proposed law and listening to a few lawyers..

                                                                              btw MrIZZ hit me up on ICQ we need to start a trade
                                                                              203838 or let me know your ICQ
                                                                              In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                • jonesy
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                  • 6688
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by teenoffice


                                                                                  it has nothing to do with the location of your server.
                                                                                  yes it does.

                                                                                  read it

                                                                                  2257 law
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                                                                                    • teenoffice
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                      • 415
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Reak
                                                                                      USA people who submit galleries to the hun?
                                                                                      that isn't his problem USA people isn't the Hun. But it's kinda fucked for you US guys since you can only come up with softcore/non-nude shit, compared to the rest of the world wich can just continue with their normal day routine.

                                                                                      Youre gonna drop in profit. Not that i care since it's only better for non based US-People
                                                                                      Nothing here.

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                                                                                        • sixxxthsense
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                          • 2419
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Reak
                                                                                          link wasnt working
                                                                                          TX, i think its working now!

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                                                                                            • Reak
                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                              • 17920
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by teenoffice
                                                                                              that isn't his problem USA people isn't the Hun. But it's kinda fucked for you US guys since you can only come up with softcore/non-nude shit, compared to the rest of the world wich can just continue with their normal day routine.

                                                                                              Youre gonna drop in profit. Not that i care since it's only better for non based US-People
                                                                                              I'm from holland btw

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                                                                                                • teenoffice
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                                  • 415
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by jonesy
                                                                                                  yes it does.

                                                                                                  read it

                                                                                                  2257 law

                                                                                                  If you live or work in the US this law applies to you, otherwise fuck it. It doesnt matter if somebody from the US is hosting his site in The Netherlands or whatever it doesnt change anything.

                                                                                                  you still go to jail with your kiddie porn
                                                                                                  Nothing here.

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                                                                                                    • Reak
                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                      • 17920
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by sixxxthsense
                                                                                                      TX, i think its working now!
                                                                                                      No it isnt

                                                                                                      http://webmasters.adult.com/

                                                                                                      This is the correct link.

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                                                                                                        • teenoffice
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                                          • 415
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Reak
                                                                                                          I'm from holland btw
                                                                                                          Same goes up for here, long live America
                                                                                                          Nothing here.

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                                                                                                            • crockett
                                                                                                              in a van by the river
                                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                                              • 76818
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by teenoffice
                                                                                                              If you live or work in the US this law applies to you, otherwise fuck it. It doesn't matter if somebody from the US is hosting his site in The Netherlands or whatever it doesn't change anything.

                                                                                                              you still go to jail with your kiddie porn
                                                                                                              well if your going to promote US sponsor it's probably going to affect you.. btw I believe the Hun hosts in the US..
                                                                                                              In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                                                • sixxxthsense
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                  • 2419
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by teenoffice
                                                                                                                  that isn't his problem USA people isn't the Hun. But it's kinda fucked for you US guys since you can only come up with softcore/non-nude shit, compared to the rest of the world wich can just continue with their normal day routine.

                                                                                                                  Youre gonna drop in profit. Not that i care since it's only better for non based US-People
                                                                                                                  yeah but it matter where ur SERVER IS!!!! IF its in the US u gotta comply! thats it!

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                                                                                                                    • Reak
                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                      • 17920
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by teenoffice
                                                                                                                      Same goes up for here, long live America
                                                                                                                      What if my host is in USA?

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                                                                                                                        • Reak
                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                          • 17920
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                                                          well if your going to promote US sponsor it's probably going to affect you.. btw I believe the Hun hosts in the US..
                                                                                                                          No the hun host his site at home.

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                                                                                                                            • crockett
                                                                                                                              in a van by the river
                                                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                                                              • 76818
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Reak
                                                                                                                              No the hun host his site at home.
                                                                                                                              really I heard it was in the US
                                                                                                                              In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                                                                • sixxxthsense
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 2419
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Reak
                                                                                                                                  What if my host is in USA?
                                                                                                                                  then u either switch hosts
                                                                                                                                  or u comply to the new laws!

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                                                                                                                                    • Spunky
                                                                                                                                      I need a beer
                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 133978
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      I'm not doing shit...Come and get me mofos

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                                                                                                                                        • Reak
                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 17920
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                                                                          really I heard it was in the US
                                                                                                                                          where did you heard that?

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                                                                                                                                            • sixxxthsense
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                              • 2419
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by sixxxthsense
                                                                                                                                              TX, i think its working now!

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                                                                                                                                                • crockett
                                                                                                                                                  in a van by the river
                                                                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 76818
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Reak
                                                                                                                                                  where did you heard that?
                                                                                                                                                  right here

                                                                                                                                                  http://www.whois.sc/thehun.net
                                                                                                                                                  In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                                                                                    • Reak
                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 17920
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by sixxxthsense
                                                                                                                                                      then u either switch hosts
                                                                                                                                                      or u comply to the new laws!
                                                                                                                                                      Are you kidding me?

                                                                                                                                                      USA Hosting companies are going to loose so many clients.

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                                                                                                                                                        • teenoffice
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 415
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Reak
                                                                                                                                                          What if my host is in USA?
                                                                                                                                                          Well i guess you have a dutch Pass. so i wouldnt worry about it since our laws don't comply with it anyway. It clearly states that this doesn't apply for hosts.
                                                                                                                                                          Nothing here.

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                                                                                                                                                            • Reak
                                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 17920
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                                                                                              right here

                                                                                                                                                              http://www.whois.sc/thehun.net
                                                                                                                                                              hmmm

                                                                                                                                                              Name Server: NS.VUURWERK.NL

                                                                                                                                                              That's dutch

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                                                                                                                                                                • jonesy
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 6688
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by teenoffice
                                                                                                                                                                  If you live or work in the US this law applies to you, otherwise fuck it. It doesnt matter if somebody from the US is hosting his site in The Netherlands or whatever it doesnt change anything.
                                                                                                                                                                  Yes the 2257 law only applies to US citizens.

                                                                                                                                                                  the US gov can go after an american citizen even if the servers are in other countries. your breaking a US LAW on/from US soil.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Reak
                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                      • 17920
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by teenoffice
                                                                                                                                                                      Well i guess you have a dutch Pass. so i wouldnt worry about it since our laws don't comply with it anyway. It clearly states that this doesn't apply for hosts.
                                                                                                                                                                      That's sweet

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Reak
                                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                          • 17920
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by sixxxthsense
                                                                                                                                                                          No problem

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                                                                                                                                                                            • crockett
                                                                                                                                                                              in a van by the river
                                                                                                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                              • 76818
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by teenoffice
                                                                                                                                                                              Well i guess you have a dutch Pass. so i wouldnt worry about it since our laws don't comply with it anyway. It clearly states that this doesn't apply for hosts.
                                                                                                                                                                              it says it doesn't comply to the hosting companies, but that doesn't mean all the sites on their server are free and clear.. They are meaning it's not the hosts responsibility for the content on the sites they host.
                                                                                                                                                                              In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Anna_O
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 5773
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by the Shemp
                                                                                                                                                                                  Izz, as a minimum i would use only softcore images on a thumb preview TGP..thats not legal advice..just my advice...
                                                                                                                                                                                  This sucks if one owns a Fetish thumb tgp...

                                                                                                                                                                                  On the other hand we're not from the us and will probably switch hosting to our other host wich is in Belgium.


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                                                                                                                                                                                    • crockett
                                                                                                                                                                                      in a van by the river
                                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 76818
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Reak
                                                                                                                                                                                      hmmm

                                                                                                                                                                                      Name Server: NS.VUURWERK.NL

                                                                                                                                                                                      That's dutch
                                                                                                                                                                                      yea but the IP address

                                                                                                                                                                                      IP Address: 64.71.165.210 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
                                                                                                                                                                                      IP Location: - California - Valencia - The Bteg Network
                                                                                                                                                                                      In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • teenoffice
                                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 415
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          crockett,


                                                                                                                                                                                          Most hosting companies have their terms, in wich they also state that therye not responsible for any injuries caused by the client.

                                                                                                                                                                                          So basically it comes down to the client, wich for example would be dutch can do whatever he wants on an US based Hosting.


                                                                                                                                                                                          Anno_0, Switching host doesnt get you out of trouble, you have to comply with your law, so you just have to remove all the hardcore stuff.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Nothing here.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • DatingGold
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 13185
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by hy777
                                                                                                                                                                                              Here is a fully compliant one.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Generating nice income too. More importantly, Ashcacacropht-safe.

                                                                                                                                                                                              http://www.my-sex-story.com/ThisTGPi...euniverse.html
                                                                                                                                                                                              haha.. thats fucking funny.. you might have to change the domain or background color though cause that might offend someone. White is a more offensive color than black, mexican or chinese color.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • DatingGold
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 13185
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  move your server to france and put all the whois info in French.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  problem solved.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Anna_O
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 5773
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by teenoffice

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Anno_0, Switching host doesnt get you out of trouble, you have to comply with your law, so you just have to remove all the hardcore stuff.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Well, we're from Sweden and there is no such law here


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