Current ripoff/non-paymen list - Epiccash/AllXCash/Flynt/JonAtherton

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  • evilshaun
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2003
    • 295

    #1

    Current ripoff/non-paymen list - Epiccash/AllXCash/Flynt/JonAtherton

    Epic:
    100% CB/Cancel ratio, bullshit? I think so.
    $2k owed
    ( This has also happened to my friends, $2k lost there too )
    Stay away from epiccash, they are not solid and their owner/bitch is a scam artist, but he's starting to get scammed so I feel better about this one.

    AllXcash:
    $1k owed
    Disppeared, non-respondant

    FlyntDigital:
    $2k owed
    Shutdown account due to "spam" complaints, no proof showed and non-respondant

    JonAtherton:
    $100k owed
    You guys know the story.

    Icecoldcash:
    $1k owed
    Was paid $3k partially in good faith, appreciated, but there is still roughly $1k left outstanding

    If any of the above would like to make good their debts, please contact [email protected].
    BIGPLAYERS OWES ME 8K
    ICECOLDCASH OWES ME 1K
    ALLXCASH OWES ME 1K
    GFY USER SLUTFINDER OWES $600
  • Manowar
    jellyfish  
    • Dec 2003
    • 71528

    #2
    You ever think all those sponsors termed you for a reason ?

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    • Basic_man
      Programming King Pin
      • Oct 2003
      • 27360

      #3
      Ho shit, that's gonna be big drama !

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      • kush
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2001
        • 3382

        #4
        What was your traffic source?

        How did you advertise?

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        • TheWildcard
          So Fucking Banned
          • Jun 2004
          • 4759

          #5

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          • stocktrader23
            Let's do some business.
            • Jan 2003
            • 18781

            #6
            Originally posted by Manowar
            You ever think all those sponsors termed you for a reason ?
            Nah, they just like conning this one dude. Maybe he has a middle eastern name or something.


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            • evilshaun
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2003
              • 295

              #7
              Sure do Manowar.. If I agree with it or not is a different story.
              BIGPLAYERS OWES ME 8K
              ICECOLDCASH OWES ME 1K
              ALLXCASH OWES ME 1K
              GFY USER SLUTFINDER OWES $600

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              • KMR Stitch
                I am cool
                • Jul 2003
                • 14494

                #8
                100k lost?

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                • chemicaleyes
                  UNSTOPPABLE
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 11569

                  #9
                  No way as way, No limitation as limitation. AmeriNOC formally PhatServers

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                  • QuaWee
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 5791

                    #10
                    where's my fuckin popcorn
                    i luv mainstream

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                    • Magg
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 4467

                      #11
                      Check my sig for more drama

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                      • BradM
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 3397

                        #12
                        Who really knows the WHOLE story but him and the program owners.

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                        • JFK
                          FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 67369

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BradM
                          Who really knows the WHOLE story but him and the program owners.
                          Right , or is everyone just picking on him ?

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                          • evilshaun
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 295

                            #14
                            Lots of people do.. This is merely to give these sponsors a chance to make good their debs, and to warn others that wish to do business with them. How you deal with this factual information is your choice.
                            BIGPLAYERS OWES ME 8K
                            ICECOLDCASH OWES ME 1K
                            ALLXCASH OWES ME 1K
                            GFY USER SLUTFINDER OWES $600

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                            • chemicaleyes
                              UNSTOPPABLE
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 11569

                              #15
                              No way as way, No limitation as limitation. AmeriNOC formally PhatServers

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                              • Ice
                                Confirmed User
                                • Nov 2002
                                • 26053

                                #16
                                Epic has always paid me on time... can't say I have dealt with the other guys....
                                icq 1904905

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                                • polish_aristocrat
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jul 2002
                                  • 40377

                                  #17
                                  Flynt Digital are a reliable company.
                                  I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                  • p1mpdogg
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Nov 2002
                                    • 16714

                                    #18
                                    didnt this idiot also complain about TCG not paying him?

                                    lol
                                    he had 92 sales 90 cacneled. end of story.
                                    fuck your mother
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                                    • Veterans Day
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 8403

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                      didnt this idiot also complain about TCG not paying him?

                                      lol
                                      he had 92 sales 90 cacneled. end of story.
                                      fuck your mother
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                                      • myneid
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jan 2003
                                        • 737

                                        #20
                                        if you are getting such a high chargeback ratio on your traffic , you should really take a look back at yourself instead of bitching on the boards casue nobody is gonna pay you with that scammer/carder traffic.
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                                        • evilshaun
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2003
                                          • 295

                                          #21
                                          TCG has paid me TOO MUCH, about $40k this year so far.. Why do you try to push aside the fact that you scammed me p1mpgoat, you openly admit it, everyone I send traffic to has NEVER had this problem before, except you.

                                          Funny, fuck my mother I guess right smart guy?

                                          TCG are one of my best programs, along with a ton of other big ones.
                                          BIGPLAYERS OWES ME 8K
                                          ICECOLDCASH OWES ME 1K
                                          ALLXCASH OWES ME 1K
                                          GFY USER SLUTFINDER OWES $600

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                                          • evilshaun
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Aug 2003
                                            • 295

                                            #22
                                            Take a look at myself?

                                            I have, and I see nothing wrong. If you get 100% CB level, there are only a few options that are possible:
                                            a) your system fucked up and never posted the right data
                                            b) your backends are shit and don't match your frontends
                                            c) some carder put through a bunch of transactions, but even then CB's would not come in until after a few months, my acct was shut in under 1 mos after traffic.
                                            d) there is a ripoff fag on the other end needing to pay his b/w bill

                                            You can all assume what you want, but anyone with half a clue knows that the occurance of 100% CB's under 1 mos is virtually impossible, even the turn around time to report and ultimately get back to your account is over 1 mos, use your brains you retards.
                                            BIGPLAYERS OWES ME 8K
                                            ICECOLDCASH OWES ME 1K
                                            ALLXCASH OWES ME 1K
                                            GFY USER SLUTFINDER OWES $600

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                                            • evilshaun
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2003
                                              • 295

                                              #23
                                              Also.. Flynt as good, paying on time and as usual for the past 6 mos, until now.
                                              BIGPLAYERS OWES ME 8K
                                              ICECOLDCASH OWES ME 1K
                                              ALLXCASH OWES ME 1K
                                              GFY USER SLUTFINDER OWES $600

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                                              • Short Irish Guy
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2004
                                                • 403

                                                #24
                                                Damn, tell us the story
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                                                • evilshaun
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                  • 295

                                                  #25
                                                  Hey p1mp what's up with my friends at Masterly huh? Decide not to pay them also??? After 10 mails sent, they still let the traffic trickle through, and you still haven't paid them $1 on $2000.
                                                  BIGPLAYERS OWES ME 8K
                                                  ICECOLDCASH OWES ME 1K
                                                  ALLXCASH OWES ME 1K
                                                  GFY USER SLUTFINDER OWES $600

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                                                  • WiredGuy
                                                    Pounding Googlebot
                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                    • 34515

                                                    #26
                                                    5 sponsors terminated you for either spam or CB problems. I think there's something really wrong with your traffic at that point because 5 terminations is really excessive.

                                                    WG
                                                    I play with Google.

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                                                    • TheWildcard
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                      • 4759

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                      didnt this idiot also complain about TCG not paying him?

                                                      lol
                                                      he had 92 sales 90 cacneled. end of story.
                                                      fuck your mother

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                                                      • WarChild
                                                        Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                        • 17263

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                        5 sponsors terminated you for either spam or CB problems. I think there's something really wrong with your traffic at that point because 5 terminations is really excessive.

                                                        WG
                                                        Can you show me where he said they all termed him? I don't believe he ever did.
                                                        .

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                                                        • evilshaun
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                          • 295

                                                          #29
                                                          Wiredguy,

                                                          I've saw some of your posts and you seem intelligent, so i'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one and ask you to re-read my original post and stop assuming I was termmed with all of them and for the same reason.

                                                          When I have over 50 active sponsors, i'm bound to see these sorts of issues, don't you think?
                                                          BIGPLAYERS OWES ME 8K
                                                          ICECOLDCASH OWES ME 1K
                                                          ALLXCASH OWES ME 1K
                                                          GFY USER SLUTFINDER OWES $600

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                                                          • Rich
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                            • 11486

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                            didnt this idiot also complain about TCG not paying him?

                                                            lol
                                                            he had 92 sales 90 cacneled. end of story.
                                                            fuck your mother
                                                            And you didn't pay him for the sales he had sent? Despite the fact that you have no reason to assume he cheated other than the fact that his members cancelled? This seems to be a recurring story with you, maybe your members areas suck balls.

                                                            Learn how to run a fucking affiliate program, you're a scam artist. Does it say in your terms that if not many of his members convert from trial you won't pay? Switch his account to recurring but pay him for sales sent, like a real program would do.

                                                            Why anyone would do business with this racist, scamming child is beyond me. He cries like a woman every time he thinks he's been wronged, but has no problem stealing from his affiliates. I'll bet his shave is through the roof as well.
                                                            Last edited by Rich; 08-18-2004, 09:23 AM.

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                                                            • liquidmoe
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                              • 4994

                                                              #31
                                                              siggy

                                                              Take Luck!

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                                                              • Ice
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                • 26053

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by evilshaun
                                                                Take a look at myself?

                                                                I have, and I see nothing wrong. If you get 100% CB level, there are only a few options that are possible:
                                                                a) your system fucked up and never posted the right data
                                                                b) your backends are shit and don't match your frontends
                                                                c) some carder put through a bunch of transactions, but even then CB's would not come in until after a few months, my acct was shut in under 1 mos after traffic.
                                                                d) there is a ripoff fag on the other end needing to pay his b/w bill

                                                                You can all assume what you want, but anyone with half a clue knows that the occurance of 100% CB's under 1 mos is virtually impossible, even the turn around time to report and ultimately get back to your account is over 1 mos, use your brains you retards.

                                                                blah blah blah blah
                                                                icq 1904905

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                                                                • lazycash
                                                                  Troll Patrol
                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                  • 15214

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Such is the life of a spammer, gotta take the good with the bad.
                                                                  "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

                                                                  Its crazy..."

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                                                                  • bdld
                                                                    $100,000
                                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                                    • 11452

                                                                    #34
                                                                    it must be your traffic, it seems like quite a coincidence that all those sponsors term your accounts.

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                                                                    • modF
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                      • 1888

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Where does your traffic come from?

                                                                      I do things
                                                                      skype:themodF

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                                                                      • WiredGuy
                                                                        Pounding Googlebot
                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                        • 34515

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by evilshaun
                                                                        Wiredguy,

                                                                        I've saw some of your posts and you seem intelligent, so i'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one and ask you to re-read my original post and stop assuming I was termmed with all of them and for the same reason.

                                                                        When I have over 50 active sponsors, i'm bound to see these sorts of issues, don't you think?

                                                                        by the sounds of it, epiccash and flyntdigital termed you. Excessive chargebacks and spam are both grounds for termination for these programs. AllXCash I never heard of, Jon Atherton you'll probably have to write off as bad debt, and ICC seems to have tried to make ammends with you. I was wrong to assume you were terminated from all 5 programs you listed, but from the sounds of it, epiccash and flynt did term you.

                                                                        WG
                                                                        I play with Google.

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                                                                        • Preacher
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                          • 2970

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Basic_man
                                                                          Ho shit, that's gonna be big drama !

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                                                                          • WiredGuy
                                                                            Pounding Googlebot
                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                            • 34515

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by WarChild
                                                                            Can you show me where he said they all termed him? I don't believe he ever did.
                                                                            100% CB/Cancel ratio
                                                                            Shutdown account due to "spam" complaints
                                                                            Those two statements translate into terminations in my world. Like I said above, I was wrong to assume all 5 termed him, but the above two seem to have.

                                                                            WG
                                                                            I play with Google.

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                                                                            • Phoenix
                                                                              BACON BACON BACON
                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                              • 35475

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Evilshuan is the shit...the more people that rip him off, the more traffic i get..keep it up boys


                                                                              sorry to hear of your losses shaun
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                                                                              • myneid
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jan 2003
                                                                                • 737

                                                                                #40
                                                                                So what was your Epic Cash affiliate id?

                                                                                So that i can check it out and see what really went on.
                                                                                Tanguy 0x7a69 inc. Programmer/President/CEO
                                                                                http://www.0x7a69.com
                                                                                A Leader in Programming since 1996
                                                                                PHP, Ruby on Rails, MySQL, PCI DSS, and any Technical Consulting

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                                                                                • skillfull
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                  • 4716

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  scam artist should be beaten
                                                                                  mind at underdark dot cc
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                                                                                  • kush
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                                                    • 3382

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    So you going to tell us where you traffic/sales come from?

                                                                                    If pimpdog's data is right, looks like you're running a scam where you get people to signup for a trial then cancel so you get the signup money.

                                                                                    Or do you have one of those sites that 'teach' people how to cancel paysite memberships?

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                                                                                    • jimmyf
                                                                                      OU812
                                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                                      • 12651

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                                                                      Nah, they just like conning this one dude. Maybe he has a middle eastern name or something.
                                                                                      you think so ???

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                                                                                      • jimmyf
                                                                                        OU812
                                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                                        • 12651

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by iceicebaby
                                                                                        Epic has always paid me on time... can't say I have dealt with the other guys....
                                                                                        paid me also, granted it wasn't a great deal of money..... but the pimpdog is



















                                                                                        sometimes
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                                                                                        • jimmyf
                                                                                          OU812
                                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                                          • 12651

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                                                          didnt this idiot also complain about TCG not paying him?

                                                                                          lol
                                                                                          he had 92 sales 90 cacneled. end of story.
                                                                                          fuck your mother

                                                                                          shame on you, where in the fuck did you learn how 2 talk like that ??
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                                                                                          • RicardoB
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                                                            • 2576

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            I don't have tried all those sponsors but Epic and Flynt Digital I have used.

                                                                                            I dropped them both for selling out to Acacia but I can attest that they do pay. I earned thousands with FLynt digital alone.

                                                                                            Epic I only promoted shortly but still made some good cash.

                                                                                            So while I won't touch those two anymore with a ten ft stick they are not fucking with the payouts.

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                                                                                            • pornstar2pac
                                                                                              Omaha Hi/Lo
                                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                                              • 17380

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              I heard Larry Flynt is low on cash.
                                                                                              Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

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                                                                                              • David - PG
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                                                • 767

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Whoever here doesnt want his traffic or is too retarded to convert it I will take it, here's what he sent on one account

                                                                                                152 sales
                                                                                                2 CB
                                                                                                6 Refund

                                                                                                Totally standard, good % of actives, def. way more than 2% or whatever

                                                                                                David/Perfectgonzo
                                                                                                perfectgonzo.com

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                                                                                                • beemk
                                                                                                  CLICK HERE
                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                  • 20829

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  hmm ive never got an account shut down before. i wonder why.
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                                                                                                  • Trent Edison
                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                                    • 6132

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    $100k owed is some serious shit...
                                                                                                    I'd agree about flyntdigital. They are fucking joke.

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