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  • Jace
    FBOP Class Of 2013
    • Jan 2004
    • 35562
    #1

    I am going to buy a new gun today, what should I get?

    My wife wants a new pistol, I want a Mossberg...I think we might end up getting a 9mm though, just cause she looks hot with a pistol in her hand

    any suggestions? she mentioned getting a glock, which I am cool with...but I know there are a few gun people on here...what are some nice 9mm out now? I am looking at $300-500 range
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    • bringer
      i have man boobies
      • Jul 2003
      • 13082
      #2
      forget 9mm
      get a glock23
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        • Jace
          FBOP Class Of 2013
          • Jan 2004
          • 35562
          #3
          Originally posted by bringer
          forget 9mm
          get a glock23
          oooo...that looks nice

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            • psili
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              • Apr 2003
              • 5526
              #4
              Get the one that fits / feels most comfortable in your hands.

              Fuck what anyone says about caliber. Just get one you like and feels good.
              Your post count means nothing.

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                • Barefootsies
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                  • Feb 2005
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                  #5
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                    • Jace
                      FBOP Class Of 2013
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 35562
                      #6
                      Originally posted by psili
                      Get the one that fits / feels most comfortable in your hands.

                      Fuck what anyone says about caliber. Just get one you like and feels good.
                      i already have a few here...just looking for something new and fun

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                        • s9ann0
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                          • Sep 2001
                          • 4873
                          #7
                          don't fuck around with pistols get an MP5-K http://www.hkpro.com/mp5k.htm

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                            • Jace
                              FBOP Class Of 2013
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 35562
                              #8
                              Originally posted by spanno
                              don't fuck around with pistols get an MP5-K http://www.hkpro.com/mp5k.htm

                              I seriously doubt that is in the $300-500 range

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                                • GonZo
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                                  • Jul 2002
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                                  #9
                                  Wooo Hooo JAce does this mean the meth head paid you that $40 he owes you?
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                                    • TheWylders
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                                      • Jul 2004
                                      • 623
                                      #10
                                      I agree with the Glock suggestion. I've got several pistols, bought the Glock for Liv because it was small and she could handle it well....turned out to be one of my favorites. The Glock26 (mini glock) is the one we've got. It's a 9mm and is great for small hands, or you can get a grip extension if you've got a bigger hand. Glock23 is a great firearm too!

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                                        • Nydahl
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                                          • Sep 2002
                                          • 6655
                                          #11
                                          any glock or Heckler-Koch (not sure about spelling)
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                                            • SixNine
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                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 1357
                                              #12
                                              This compact 9mm is my daily packer:
                                              http://www.kahr.com/pistols_PM9094.html

                                              High end and very sick. I've also got the full frame Ruger in my sig (It's big as fuck).

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                                                • VanessaG
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                                                  • Jun 2004
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                                                    • bjjb
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                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                      • 13074
                                                      #14
                                                      http://www.glock.com/g27.htm

                                                      Good CC for anyone and small enuff to be confortable for even the smallest ladies hands

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                                                        • Manowar
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                                                          • Dec 2003
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by spanno
                                                          don't fuck around with pistols get an MP5-K http://www.hkpro.com/mp5k.htm

                                                          great option there

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                                                            • FunForOne
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                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                              • 8704
                                                              #16
                                                              I would get a very good hiding place for it if the democrats successfully fillabuster and get a liberal on the court.

                                                              Those liberal justices dont seem to care much for the part of the constitution that deals with private rights such as property ownership and owning firearms.

                                                              Good chance they wont pay you for it when they outlaw it.

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                                                                • Jace
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                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                  • 35562
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by FunForOne
                                                                  I would get a very good hiding place for it if the democrats successfully fillabuster and get a liberal on the court.

                                                                  Those liberal justices dont seem to care much for the part of the constitution that deals with private rights such as property ownership and owning firearms.

                                                                  Good chance they wont pay you for it when they outlaw it.
                                                                  haha, you are joking right?

                                                                  oh shit, my tin foil hat just fell off...the sky is falling the sky is falling

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                                                                    • HUDAS
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                                                                      • Jul 2005
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                                                                      #18
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                                                                        • pxxx
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                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                          • 12114
                                                                          #19
                                                                          You should get a 22 for your girl.

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                                                                            • JUSTB
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                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                              • 1740
                                                                              #20
                                                                              I have a S & W 357 magnum. I sent it back to Smith and had it magna ported. It shoots really nice. As a woman I prefer a revolver. Not sure why, maybe because it's pretty ; )

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                                                                                • hotstuff
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                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                  • 234
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by FunForOne
                                                                                  I would get a very good hiding place for it if the democrats successfully fillabuster and get a liberal on the court.

                                                                                  Those liberal justices dont seem to care much for the part of the constitution that deals with private rights such as property ownership and owning firearms.

                                                                                  Good chance they wont pay you for it when they outlaw it.
                                                                                  ... interestingly enough, if the conservative justices stood up for states' rights in the medical marijuana case, any federal bans on weapons could be challenged on constitutional grounds. however, due to their decision, the definition of what 'affects interstate commerce' has been expanded so much that it is now virtually boundless. good luck.

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                                                                                    • Anthony
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                                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                                      • 9653
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                                                      My wife wants a new pistol, I want a Mossberg...I think we might end up getting a 9mm though, just cause she looks hot with a pistol in her hand

                                                                                      any suggestions? she mentioned getting a glock, which I am cool with...but I know there are a few gun people on here...what are some nice 9mm out now? I am looking at $300-500 range
                                                                                      I have a few handguns, for that price range, I suggest one gun. The Springfiled Armory X90 series. Best bang for the buck. I have their smallest frame handgun (3 inch barrel), in the .40 caliber. It's the one in the middle.


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                                                                                        • Jace
                                                                                          FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                                          • 35562
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                          I have a few handguns, for that price range, I suggest one gun. The Springfiled Armory X90 series. Best bang for the buck. I have their smallest frame handgun (3 inch barrel), in the .40 caliber. It's the one in the middle.


                                                                                          very nice

                                                                                          i am heading to the gun shop here in a sec, we will see when I get there what he has in stock

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                                                                                            • Anthony
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                                                                                              • Feb 2001
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                                                              very nice

                                                                                              i am heading to the gun shop here in a sec, we will see when I get there what he has in stock
                                                                                              Jace,

                                                                                              If it helps any, Serge and I had a bet at the gun range, a buck a point at 30 feet.

                                                                                              After I won, he fired the Springfield x90 and came within 2 points of my high score.

                                                                                              He went back into the store and bought one.

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                                                                                                • Rinaldo
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                                                                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                                                                  • 5086
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Springfield is great But I also like the Sig in 9mm and the Beretta 92, both in 9... why? because you can plink all day long and not feel it in the wallet like you will with a larger caliber.

                                                                                                  beretta 92 is a little higher priced though, but it's all steel which I prefer to the composite feeling

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                                                                                                    • Anthony
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                                                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                                                      • 9653
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Rinaldo
                                                                                                      Springfield is great But I also like the Sig in 9mm and the Beretta 92, both in 9... why? because you can plink all day long and not feel it in the wallet like you will with a larger caliber.

                                                                                                      beretta 92 is a little higher priced though, but it's all steel which I prefer to the composite feeling
                                                                                                      My fave is the Sig, I own one, the pistol on the left. I have the P229.

                                                                                                      But it's not in the price range of 300 to 500 Jace is looking for.

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                                                                                                        • Rinaldo
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                                                                                                          • Sep 2003
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                                          My fave is the Sig, I own one, the pistol on the left. I have the P229.

                                                                                                          But it's not in the price range of 300 to 500 Jace is looking for.
                                                                                                          I stand corrected and you're right, I called Ace's here in south florida and they have 2 used at 450 each. But new they're priced a little higher than what Jace feels like spending.

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                                                                                                            • Anthony
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                                                                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                                                                              • 9653
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Rinaldo
                                                                                                              I stand corrected and you're right, I called Ace's here in south florida and they have 2 used at 450 each. But new they're priced a little higher than what Jace feels like spending.
                                                                                                              I didn't know you were down here in SFla, I'm in Deerfield, but shoot up in Delray. Brand new the P229 cost me 800.00 with clips, laser grip, etc.

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                                                                                                                • Rinaldo
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                                                                                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                  • 5086
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                                                  I didn't know you were down here in SFla, I'm in Deerfield, but shoot up in Delray. Brand new the P229 cost me 800.00 with clips, laser grip, etc.

                                                                                                                  Yeah I shoot at the park for long range to keep up with my military shooting skills and I shoot indoors some nights when I need to practice my quick draw skills. I'm a fan of iron sights myself, but I'll dabble with the occasional optical aid. You hunt at all?

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                                                                                                                    • Anthony
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                                                                                                                      • Feb 2001
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Rinaldo
                                                                                                                      Yeah I shoot at the park for long range to keep up with my military shooting skills and I shoot indoors some nights when I need to practice my quick draw skills. I'm a fan of iron sights myself, but I'll dabble with the occasional optical aid. You hunt at all?
                                                                                                                      I got back into guns after I hurt my back lifting. Needed something to do for the 2 months of down time. I'm in the process of buying an AR15 this week. Would be interested in hunting for sure.

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                                                                                                                        • DirtyDanza
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                                                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                          • 8375
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          I carry a few different guns.. for handguns I rock a primary and a backup... my primary is the HK usp 40
                                                                                                                          the ammo I am using now is a heavy load a 180 grain ranger sxt made by winchester

                                                                                                                          for my ancle or "belley" piece I carry a tarus pt111 pro with the 12 round mag and I am shooting a super hotttttt ammo out of there ... a light 127 grain 9mm but it's the +p+ load so it's very hottt and it's also the ranger sxt which is the black talon from back in the day

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                                                                                                                            • smack
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                                                                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                              • 10652
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              don't get a mossberg if you're looking for a shotgun.

                                                                                                                              Remington 870 Marine Mag is the way to go with shotty's.


                                                                                                                              as for the handgun i wouldn't get a glock. i've shot a couple of them and they really feel like a toy in my hand. if you're looking for a smaller 9mm i would suggest checking out

                                                                                                                              http://kahr.com/

                                                                                                                              they make some great guns.
                                                                                                                              Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

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                                                                                                                                • Rinaldo
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                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 5086
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Dirty_DS
                                                                                                                                  I carry a few different guns.. for handguns I rock a primary and a backup... my primary is the HK usp 40
                                                                                                                                  the ammo I am using now is a heavy load a 180 grain ranger sxt made by winchester

                                                                                                                                  for my ancle or "belley" piece I carry a tarus pt111 pro with the 12 round mag and I am shooting a super hotttttt ammo out of there ... a light 127 grain 9mm but it's the +p+ load so it's very hottt and it's also the ranger sxt which is the black talon from back in the day


                                                                                                                                  If and when I carry I carry the gp100 I will never rely on an auto for self defense unless it's a last resort.

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                                                                                                                                    • brilsmurf
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                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                      • 3405
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Dirty_DS
                                                                                                                                      I carry a few different guns.. for handguns I rock a primary and a backup... my primary is the HK usp 40
                                                                                                                                      the ammo I am using now is a heavy load a 180 grain ranger sxt made by winchester

                                                                                                                                      for my ancle or "belley" piece I carry a tarus pt111 pro with the 12 round mag and I am shooting a super hotttttt ammo out of there ... a light 127 grain 9mm but it's the +p+ load so it's very hottt and it's also the ranger sxt which is the black talon from back in the day

                                                                                                                                      hi Dirty DS why do you need al those guns on you? do you live in a dangerous neighbourhood?
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                                                                                                                                        • IwantU Luis P
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                                                                                                                                            • Anthony
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                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 9653
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Rinaldo
                                                                                                                                              If and when I carry I carry the gp100 I will never rely on an auto for self defense unless it's a last resort.
                                                                                                                                              I carry a SW 340PD for concealed.

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                                                                                                                                                • Translation
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                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                                                  • 482
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Dirty_DS
                                                                                                                                                  I carry a few different guns.. for handguns I rock a primary and a backup... my primary is the HK usp 40
                                                                                                                                                  the ammo I am using now is a heavy load a 180 grain ranger sxt made by winchester

                                                                                                                                                  for my ancle or "belley" piece I carry a tarus pt111 pro with the 12 round mag and I am shooting a super hotttttt ammo out of there ... a light 127 grain 9mm but it's the +p+ load so it's very hottt and it's also the ranger sxt which is the black talon from back in the day

                                                                                                                                                  Of course, everything you say is pure bullshit so please shut the fuck up.

                                                                                                                                                  By the way, i hear Kimbo's people are still waiting on you to put up the money for the fight.

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                                                                                                                                                    • Giorgio_Xo
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                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
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                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by bringer
                                                                                                                                                      forget 9mm
                                                                                                                                                      get a glock23
                                                                                                                                                      Any Glock.

                                                                                                                                                      I prefer shotguns myself.
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                                                                                                                                                        • sperbonzo
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                                                                                                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 9750
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                                                                                          I didn't know you were down here in SFla, I'm in Deerfield, but shoot up in Delray. Brand new the P229 cost me 800.00 with clips, laser grip, etc.

                                                                                                                                                          Hey there Anthony, I live in N. Miami, and I go shooting about once a month or so..... we should hook up to go to the range.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Nylz
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                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by hova
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Anthony
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by sperbonzo
                                                                                                                                                                          Hey there Anthony, I live in N. Miami, and I go shooting about once a month or so..... we should hook up to go to the range.
                                                                                                                                                                          Let me know Mike, I'd be there.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Rinaldo
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by sperbonzo
                                                                                                                                                                              Hey there Anthony, I live in N. Miami, and I go shooting about once a month or so..... we should hook up to go to the range.

                                                                                                                                                                              Where's my invite?
                                                                                                                                                                              I live in ft. lauderdale... I'll bring refreshments.
                                                                                                                                                                              You go indoor or outdoor?

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Anthony
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Rinaldo
                                                                                                                                                                                  Where's my invite?
                                                                                                                                                                                  I live in ft. lauderdale... I'll bring refreshments.
                                                                                                                                                                                  You go indoor or outdoor?
                                                                                                                                                                                  I'm open to either one. I'll try to close on the AR15 sooner, would love to pop off some rounds with it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Rinaldo
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                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm open to either one. I'll try to close on the AR15 sooner, would love to pop off some rounds with it.

                                                                                                                                                                                      I'll go get an AK or an sks and we'll have some fun.
                                                                                                                                                                                      They go for less than 400.
                                                                                                                                                                                      Hit me up on ICQ sometime adn we'll set it up

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • WarChild
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Aaronm pointed me at this http://remtek.com/arms/sig/model/229/229.htm and I ended up buying one!
                                                                                                                                                                                          .

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                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by VanessaG
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  anyone that you like and your hand is comfortable with
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • hotstuff
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by brilsmurf
                                                                                                                                                                                                      hi Dirty DS why do you need al those guns on you? do you live in a dangerous neighbourhood?
                                                                                                                                                                                                      he owes d$ money ;)

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