in thier defense, Stephen is the only mother fucker there i have any respect for. he has called me and is trying to work things out, so i agreed to chill for now. he is a good guy for sure. but lisa needs togo.
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I agree. I tried to be fair, but when the only place I saw her all night was backstage hanging out with the groupies sitting on her ass, I wasn't impressed.
Stephen on the other hand was running around like a madman doing the best he could.
Originally posted by p1mpdogg in thier defense, Stephen is the only mother fucker there i have any respect for. he has called me and is trying to work things out, so i agreed to chill for now. he is a good guy for sure. but lisa needs togo.
that should be a relief to some of those sponsors..people are getting contacted at least.
I haven't said anything about this yet, but how the hell you think you can pin all this on one person is beyond belief.
Yes there was some problems, yes some people are pissed but calling out for one individual to be fired is beyond me. I was there, I had vip access, I got in as soon as I got off the bus, had drink tickets given to me, and had a blast.
Things I would like to have seen, was the roped off area for VIPs to stay for VIPs, meaning only them should have been allowed to be there all night. If this had been done, as well as someone out front to make sure the vips got in, (no matter what they were wearing) the show would have went 100% better.
They all worked their asses off that I know of and pointing at one person when half the shit that went wrong couldn't have been done any better with her making the final decision.
Yes a lot of people were pissed, but this sounds like someone trying to offer up a sacrifical lamb.
Been friends with Lisa for a while now, and been to many of the events she has helped put together they were a success.
Anyone else out these that knows Lisa and how these things are put togther and are not saying anything should be ashamed of yourselves.
DMoney and Lens both said that a lot of what happened was due to the club and not the actual xbiz crew. Yes it could have been better, there is always room for improvement, but pinning all this on one individual isn't right.
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Originally posted by taboo_dude I haven't said anything about this yet, but how the hell you think you can pin all this on one person is beyond belief.
Yes there was some problems, yes some people are pissed but calling out for one individual to be fired is beyond me. I was there, I had vip access, I got in as soon as I got off the bus, had drink tickets given to me, and had a blast.
Things I would like to have seen, was the roped off area for VIPs to stay for VIPs, meaning only them should have been allowed to be there all night. If this had been done, as well as someone out front to make sure the vips got in, (no matter what they were wearing) the show would have went 100% better.
They all worked their asses off that I know of and pointing at one person when half the shit that went wrong couldn't have been done any better with her making the final decision.
Yes a lot of people were pissed, but this sounds like someone trying to offer up a sacrifical lamb.
Been friends with Lisa for a while now, and been to many of the events she has helped put together they were a success.
Anyone else out these that knows Lisa and how these things are put togther and are not saying anything should be ashamed of yourselves.
DMoney and Lens both said that a lot of what happened was due to the club and not the actual xbiz crew. Yes it could have been better, there is always room for improvement, but pinning all this on one individual isn't right.
shut the fuck up
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Originally posted by p1mpdogg in thier defense, Stephen is the only mother fucker there i have any respect for. he has called me and is trying to work things out, so i agreed to chill for now. he is a good guy for sure. but lisa needs togo.
As I said in another thread, If I didn't see Stephen handling the mob ghetto crowd, I would of never made it in with my All Access pass.
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Stephen is a great guy. He's been to almost every Players Ball and has also helped me in the past in making sure guests get in. Trust me, he's had practice helping out the Players Ball door.
Originally posted by DatingGold I agree. I tried to be fair, but when the only place I saw her all night was backstage hanging out with the groupies sitting on her ass, I wasn't impressed.
Stephen on the other hand was running around like a madman doing the best he could.
I totally agree, I also wanted to add that Giga Chris was working the limos at the hotel most of the night and XBiz Lori was trying to get those egotistical bouncers to let us in. These three people were working the whole night trying to get us in and my many thanks to them.
Originally posted by p1mpdogg gotta love a crew that gets just as fucked up as thier boss does
patty got carried out of the club, media was puking, and tanguy i think fucked a tranny
kudos EC
Poor Media, I felt bad for him but back in the lobby he made out ok, I was with him til about 4, I think puking made it possible for him to continue walking when I could barely keep my eyes open!
Originally posted by taboo_dude I haven't said anything about this yet, but how the hell you think you can pin all this on one person is beyond belief.
Yes there was some problems, yes some people are pissed but calling out for one individual to be fired is beyond me. I was there, I had vip access, I got in as soon as I got off the bus, had drink tickets given to me, and had a blast.
Things I would like to have seen, was the roped off area for VIPs to stay for VIPs, meaning only them should have been allowed to be there all night. If this had been done, as well as someone out front to make sure the vips got in, (no matter what they were wearing) the show would have went 100% better.
They all worked their asses off that I know of and pointing at one person when half the shit that went wrong couldn't have been done any better with her making the final decision.
Yes a lot of people were pissed, but this sounds like someone trying to offer up a sacrifical lamb.
Been friends with Lisa for a while now, and been to many of the events she has helped put together they were a success.
Anyone else out these that knows Lisa and how these things are put togther and are not saying anything should be ashamed of yourselves.
DMoney and Lens both said that a lot of what happened was due to the club and not the actual xbiz crew. Yes it could have been better, there is always room for improvement, but pinning all this on one individual isn't right.
If she was the lead in putting on the event she is responsible. She was at the club sitting on her ass according to someone further up the page. When you put on an event you have a good time but your first priority is to the guest you're entertaining. If so many people were having such a hard time then there were some serious problems with setup and presentation. Some very reputable(i.e. not stupid) people have said they had many major problems.
I wasn't there so I wouldn't know, but out of curiousity, was she given carte blanche to set the whole thing up by herself or was there a team *collecting info from the sponsors* on what they wanted & how it was to be presented? If the club did the major screw up, I say sue them or dispute the charges if they were put on a credit card. Weren't there contracts signed?
Originally posted by WiredGuy I totally agree, I also wanted to add that Giga Chris was working the limos at the hotel most of the night and XBiz Lori was trying to get those egotistical bouncers to let us in. These three people were working the whole night trying to get us in and my many thanks to them.
PS: It was nice to meet you in the lobby Alan.
WG
GigaChris did his part...
He told a whole bunch of us that we could not get in the club with shorts on...that was at the hotel lobby. He was freaking out and was telling everyone to go change.
At least he made what was in his range to help !!
telling another company to fire one of their employees shows no class and really says the person requesting the firing is a total and complete idiot in business ethics and in life in general.
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Originally posted by WiredGuy I totally agree, I also wanted to add that Giga Chris was working the limos at the hotel most of the night and XBiz Lori was trying to get those egotistical bouncers to let us in. These three people were working the whole night trying to get us in and my many thanks to them.
PS: It was nice to meet you in the lobby Alan.
WG
I hope lisa got herpes that night.
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Originally posted by p1mpdogg dont be so sure. rumors say otherwise.
If they would fire her now, they'd look like they weren't running their own business. It would also mean admitting that the party was a complete failure.
If she gets fired (which I doubt), it's not gonna be now but when all this has died down, for an "unrelated" insignificant reason.
Originally posted by SleazyDream telling another company to fire one of their employees shows no class and really says the person requesting the firing is a total and complete idiot in business ethics and in life in general.
shut up you dumbass. she ruined everything.
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Originally posted by TopBucksTrixxxia I wasn't there so I wouldn't know, but out of curiousity, was she given carte blanche to set the whole thing up by herself or was there a team *collecting info from the sponsors* on what they wanted & how it was to be presented? If the club did the major screw up, I say sue them or dispute the charges if they were put on a credit card. Weren't there contracts signed?
This is my line of thinking, even if she wasn't holding hands in the back, I doubt she could have changed the outcome that much. When the club was in charge of the front door and the vips had to pay to get in, that was something you would not have forseen and then after the fact it is too late.
Seems just too easy to blame it ALL on one person. Not when all that has been complained about is mostly the clubs fault. I doubt any of us no matter how big our name was could have changed anything. If the doorman was pushing Lensman away well .... who was working the front door during this and where were they? Was Lisa suppose to be there? Chris, Stephen, Lori?
If I had been Alec I would have had at least two if not three people there that was very familiar with who is who is the adult industry.
Originally posted by punkworld If they would fire her now, they'd look like they weren't running their own business. It would also mean admitting that the party was a complete failure.
If she gets fired (which I doubt), it's not gonna be now but when all this has died down, for an "unrelated" insignificant reason.
You're probably right. She'll be stuck in career mediocrity hell for a while because they won't trust her with anything more important than the coffee machine and will eventually quit.
Originally posted by p1mpdogg shut up you dumbass. she ruined everything.
i'm not saying she did - i'm not saying she didn't.
I am saying it's not your call to have her fired.
if you have a meltdown on GFY how would you feel if I went to everyone and told them to stop doing business with you? You can make calls on your own business - thats it. You can't make calls for someone else.
i didn't goto the party even though they were kind enough to give me a few VIP passes - which i really appreciated and gave to some friends who did go. If there was a mistake what the fuck does that have to do with the other things she does in her job?
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Originally posted by SleazyDream telling another company to fire one of their employees shows no class and really says the person requesting the firing is a total and complete idiot in business ethics and in life in general.
This is an issue for Xbiz and Xbiz alone to decide. Calling her out on the boards to be fired is without class. I don't understand why this couldnt be communicated privately. By doing this in such a public manner, it smacks of using this issue as a way to push visibility to your program and your "board persona"
The Xbiz party may have been a fiasco, but you are acting like a jackass. I am done posting in this thread, any slurs directed at me will be ignored.
sleazy you are over looking alot of stuff. she was responsible and took no responsibility. end of story. stephen took over for her since she was not capable.
and to scorefag, i will say what i want when i want. im not known for having class.
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Originally posted by taboo_dude This is my line of thinking, even if she wasn't holding hands in the back, I doubt she could have changed the outcome that much. When the club was in charge of the front door and the vips had to pay to get in, that was something you would not have forseen and then after the fact it is too late.
Seems just too easy to blame it ALL on one person. Not when all that has been complained about is mostly the clubs fault. I doubt any of us no matter how big our name was could have changed anything. If the doorman was pushing Lensman away well .... who was working the front door during this and where were they? Was Lisa suppose to be there? Chris, Stephen, Lori?
If I had been Alec I would have had at least two if not three people there that was very familiar with who is who is the adult industry.
I call bull on that..when you contact a club for a party, preparations are made or should be made with them to accomodate your guests. I've NEVER seen such disorganization than when attending our industries parties.
I haven't been to many shows but the ones I've been to have mostly been the same. People overlook or assume that the club is going to take care of "your ppl"
This club was supposed to be the Place to be??? well then you better make arrangements b4 hand. That's just an easy cop out blaming the club...just my
anyone who's thrown a party KNOWS that this is one of the first things you work out with the door/club
Originally posted by p1mpdogg sleazy you are over looking alot of stuff. she was responsible and took no responsibility. end of story. stephen took over for her since she was not capable.
and to scorefag, i will say what i want when i want. im not known for having class.
Dude, I feel for ya. I know your pissed off, and it seems no one is being sympathetic to the fact that you got ripped off.
Wasnt it Lisa, who was walking around handing out free drink cards?
Demanding that she be fired, probably isnt the way to go.
People bitching at you becuase of it, isnt too fucking cool either.
Your frustrated....you got screwed....and people need to take that into consideration.
No, demanding someone be fired isnt professional, but niether is sponsoring an event and getting ripped off.
Can't blame one girl for all the mess really can ya? They we're all cluster fucks aside form one person according to all the pissed off webmasters around these parts.
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