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Originally Posted by bmb
how about this: culture is the mechanism by which a society functions. Arab society does not function. 100 billion trillion million dollars have gone into the middle east in the last 75 years. they can't even build a fucking toaster. they can't solve any problems. they can't do a fucking thing except stick dynamite in their ass and wander into the mall. I say we walk away and let them eat sand and fuck off . . . just my personal opinion 
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Funny, I seem to recall that the entire basis of modern mathematics sources from 'arab society'. Words like 'zero', and 'azimuth' and such aren't anglosaxon in origin, y'know.
I guess you don't need to know how to build a toaster to run a couple international news organizations, either. Apparently al-Jazeera is operated by people who also let the blinking 12:00's stay on their VCRs.
... and somehow, I think there's a constructive middle ground between 'stuff their tongues up a pig's ass' and 'let's all just fuck off'. It'll obviously be left to people who see the world in color, rather than black and white, to work on a real solution.