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some things you should know about gotwebhost i find interesting

07-06-2005, 10:21 AM

they claim they are from wheatfield indiana.

thats fine.

Name: gotwebhost.com
Address: 66.63.161.16

fris# whois -a 66.63.161.16

OrgName: OC3 Networks & Web Solutions, LLC
OrgID: ONWSL
Address: 530 West 6th Street
Address: Suite 504
City: Los Angeles
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 90014
Country: US

when they are actually getting their bandwidth from oc3 networks

which has a /19

which is 8160 ips.

which is good, for SEO hosting, but they say its theirs, but they are just resellers, it would be nice if they told the truth. they are just reselling off oc3networks space. not their own.

I know if i was gonna move all my sites over to them, i would do some investigating and make sure i knew the whole scoop before.

Do they even have an office? or is it just icq support and a phone in some parents basement?

things i am sure all of you would like answered.

There are alot of SE guys that are potential clients of gotwebhost and would like things clarified.

So i am sure they would like things answered to all these questions.

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07-06-2005, 10:24 AM

intersting.....
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07-06-2005, 10:25 AM

*sniff* mmm drama in the morning
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07-06-2005, 10:26 AM

dedective fris at your cervix

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07-06-2005, 10:27 AM

all hosting is ----- is reselling hosting.

- nothing here -
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07-06-2005, 10:29 AM

fris is good at what he does.
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07-06-2005, 10:33 AM

hmm interesting
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07-06-2005, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by brand0n

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07-06-2005, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by RAM

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so if gotwebhost goes down and you ask them the situation.

they have to call oc3networks, so they are bascially stalling why you are trying to get a straight answer.

when people like phatservers has their own space in the datacenter, webair , etc. people have racks, cages, etc. they dont need to resell, cause they can afford their own space in datacenters.

because i knew a mickey mouse operation couldnt get a hold of that many ips. when i worked at a webhosting company every ip we reqested from arin. we had to give a valid reason, they are really picky on ips now cause of the demand.

how soon will ipv6 be in effect 4-5 years down the road?

of course if you are a major server provider its easier like webair, phatservers.

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07-06-2005, 10:49 AM

interesting to say the least

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07-06-2005, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by fris

a mickey mouse operation

Hey don't insult Mickey Mouse that way bro.

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07-06-2005, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by wdsguy

fris is good at what he does.

And what does he do?

I'm just a newbie.
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07-06-2005, 10:55 AM

baddog couldn't reboot a server if his life depended on it.
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07-06-2005, 10:58 AM

Thanks for doing the research Fris, much appreciated. What do you think of Rackspace? I think I saw you posting good things about them before, just curious what you could find out about their operation.

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07-06-2005, 11:02 AM

Wiredguy, no matter who you end up using be sure you check your ip #'s in case they have a history of being blacklisted.

http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/listin...0Ilan%20Mishan

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07-06-2005, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by Brujah

Wiredguy, no matter who you end up using be sure you check your ip #'s in case they have a history of being blacklisted.

http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/listin...0Ilan%20Mishan

This looks more like an email spam history, not so much an SEO history.
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07-06-2005, 11:17 AM

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07-06-2005, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by The Bootyologist

baddog couldn't reboot a server if his life depended on it.

I didn't know that the Director of Business Development was required to be able to do tech support for the company to be reputable.

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07-06-2005, 11:23 AM

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07-06-2005, 11:24 AM

Fris, with all due respect:

1. We have multiple datacenters.
2. As stated by keyboard warrior - all hosts are resellers
3. We are incorporated. Our corporate office is in Wheatfield, IN
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07-06-2005, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

Thanks for doing the research Fris, much appreciated. What do you think of Rackspace? I think I saw you posting good things about them before, just curious what you could find out about their operation.

WG

i know you use them, much respect for rackspace, i used them a long time ago,yes they are more expensive, but you will get nothing but profesionals, people that know what is going on, the best bandwidth. you can trust your hosting with them. even if you have a dedicated server with them you will get your moneys worth, you wont have to worry about it, your server will be in good hands.

i remember back in the day when i was paying out the butt just for 80 gigs of transfer on a dedicated.

if you talk to anyone and mention the name rackspace. i am sure they will share the same thoughts.

they are listed on most webhost directories

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07-07-2005, 01:59 AM

that's interesting..

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07-07-2005, 03:04 AM

Originally posted by baddog

Fris, with all due respect:

1. We have multiple datacenters.
2. As stated by keyboard warrior - all hosts are resellers
3. We are incorporated. Our corporate office is in Wheatfield, IN

You say you "have multiple datancenters", I think the proper wording would be that you USE MULTIPLE DATACENTERS...

Quite a difference there
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07-07-2005, 03:33 AM

Originally posted by fris

i know you use them, much respect for rackspace, i used them a long time ago,yes they are more expensive, but you will get nothing but ... the best bandwidth.

no. rackspace dumped most of their good transit and started heavily using wiltel, who are probably the worst around at this point. interestingly enough, they're still charging the same extortionate prices for transfer. wanna hear something funny? one of the founders started a budget dedicated server company to compete with rackshack and guess what transit they were using? you heard it right, they were selling boxes for $119/mo with 1tb transfer on the same transit mix as rackspace. makes you think, eh?

there is nothing wrong with co-locating in different datacenters, especially if you're trying to get your clients as many /24 unique ips as possible. i sure as all hell would rather host with gotwebhost than webair - why does webair do any public hosting anyway? surely, their spamhosting operation should be making them enough dosh. how does anyone run mailservers on webair ip space anyway? they're blacklisted everywhere.

yes, all hosting is reselling, unless you're hosting with a tier 1 carrier. but why would you want to do that? unless you've got a fairly large operation, you should never even consider purchasing transit from tier 1 carriers directly - all bar none have absolutely horrible support and you're much better off going with a solid tier 2 who will do multihoming for you.
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07-07-2005, 03:37 AM

if you're a small (under 10 boxes) dedicated server client or virtual hosting client, your number 1 priority in a host is finding clueful people. if they know what they're doing, are honest people and charge enough to be able to afford not to cut any corners, you're golden.

have there been any specific complaints about the quality of service provided by gotwebhost?
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07-07-2005, 03:37 AM

Originally posted by james_hunk

that's interesting..

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07-07-2005, 05:09 AM

Originally posted by fris

i know you use them, much respect for rackspace, i used them a long time ago,yes they are more expensive, but you will get nothing but profesionals, people that know what is going on, the best bandwidth. you can trust your hosting with them. even if you have a dedicated server with them you will get your moneys worth, you wont have to worry about it, your server will be in good hands.

i remember back in the day when i was paying out the butt just for 80 gigs of transfer on a dedicated.

if you talk to anyone and mention the name rackspace. i am sure they will share the same thoughts.

they are listed on most webhost directories

Thanks Fris.
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07-07-2005, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by Rui

You say you "have multiple datancenters", I think the proper wording would be that you USE MULTIPLE DATACENTERS...

Quite a difference there

Agreed, where did I make the typo at?
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