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  • Pleasurepays
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    • Aug 2002
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    #51
    Originally posted by KRL
    The majority of the US population supported depriving blacks and women of their civil liberties for hundreds of years.

    Just because the majority supports something does not mean it is right.
    50 turd burglers united in an illegal marriage


    right and wrong is subjective.

    the fact that the majority support something means it's "right" simply because we have a political system where the "majority" makes the rules.

    it has always been true that "when more people agree with you, the more "right" you become"

    Just ask anyone who believes that a magical, mystical, invisible, omnipresent ghost created everything we see, hear, feel and know.
    Last edited by Pleasurepays; 08-12-2004, 01:13 PM.

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      • WarChild
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        • Jan 2003
        • 17263
        #52
        Originally posted by KRL
        If this country continues on its present course and moral direction, you will inevitably reach a breaking point and civil disobediance will occur on a scale not seen in hundreds of years.

        If history has taught us anything, its that you can only fuck with "the people" for so long, and then they snap en masse and revolt against the king.
        Can't you apply the same logic to a conservative side of the argument? That is .. For every person with a set of morales aligned on the liberal side of things there's going to be one just as heavily biased to the conservative side. Could not the same revolution then be possible based in a conservative movement and against a liberal goverment?

        I'm not sure issues like gay marriage will ever anger "the people" en masse. It's not quite so black and white of an issue as race. No pun intended.
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          • KRL
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            • Oct 2002
            • 31429
            #53
            Originally posted by Pleasurepays
            '
            right and wrong is subjective.

            the fact that the majority support something means it's "right" simply because we have a political system where the "majority" makes the rules.
            Baloney. Well over half the people don't even vote any more.

            For the most part, lobbyists construct laws and then congress introduces them and acts like they wrote them and weasles them through the system.

            Why was the patriot act done in the middle of the night.

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              • Pleasurepays
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                • Aug 2002
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                #54
                Originally posted by KRL
                Baloney. Well over half the people don't even vote any more.

                For the most part, lobbyists construct laws and then congress introduces them and acts like they wrote them and weasles them through the system.

                Why was the patriot act done in the middle of the night.

                Hello!

                well... i am not much for conspiracy theories as an answer to everything i feel is wrong in the world or that i dont agree with... it seems your problem is with the workings of the government. good luck changing that. regardless of who does or doesn't vote... a 300 plus year history of this system of government functioning very well is good enough apparently for people to put their faith in it

                Saddam got 100% of the vote in the last election. It;s not like that proves anything either.

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                  • baddog
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                    • Apr 2001
                    • 107089
                    #55
                    Originally posted by KRL
                    Our legal system has overstepped its bounds again and imposed morality on the people's individual rights to love whoever they damn want.
                    Excuse me, but I am starting to wonder about you. I used to think you were pretty intelligent, but every once in a while I find myself questioning this.

                    What do you mean they are overstepping their bounds? That is exactly what the Supreme Court is for. If anyone was overstepping their bounds it was the City of San Francisco in thinking they could violate state law by granting same sex marriages. They violated the law of the State of California, and it was complete bullshit for them to think that they could get away with it.

                    Cities can not make laws in violation of State laws. Pure and simple. If they want same sex marriages here, they are going to have to get the laws changed first

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                      • jimmyf
                        OU812
                        • Feb 2001
                        • 12651
                        #56
                        I really don't think it's a conservative or liberal thing, gay marrages.

                        Most people just don't want it, and that includes the people of California, and California dam sure is not conservative.

                        Me I don't give a shit.

                        there are a lot of laws I don't agree with but if you get caught breaking them ???

                        I've been very very lucky most of my life, have not got caught (but for minor stuff), guess that's being smart and knowing when 2 quit.
                        Last edited by jimmyf; 08-12-2004, 01:39 PM.
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                          • baddog
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                            • Apr 2001
                            • 107089
                            #57
                            Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                            Why don't they let people live what they want ... That's not what I call freedom . It has nothing to do with any1 else then the couples that got married
                            only that the law is not set up to allow it

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                              • baddog
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Apr 2001
                                • 107089
                                #58
                                Originally posted by KRL
                                Fuck laws that are clearly designed to appease the morality issues of the fucking right wing puritans in this country.

                                Its all backed by the same freaks that want to get rid of porn.

                                This bullshit is DISCRIMINATION pure and simple.
                                dude, the law has been the same since before any of us were born

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                                  • Pleasurepays
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                                    • Aug 2002
                                    • 11913
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by jimmyf
                                    I really don't think it's a conservative or liberal thing, gay marrages.

                                    Most people just don't want it, and that includes the people of California, and California dam sure is not conservative.

                                    Me I don't give a shit.
                                    I agree with you. I think most people don't want it... or don't care. I think this is an important point that people miss.

                                    1) The majority of people don't care at all because it is not something that has any direct bearing on their lives and they have no emotional attachment to the issue causing them to take sides or care.

                                    2) People are largely intollerent of gays and gay issues. Ever seen a "gay pride parade" holy shit. No fucking wonder no one is on their side or takes them seriously.
                                    Last edited by Pleasurepays; 08-12-2004, 01:46 PM.

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                                      • baddog
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                                        • Apr 2001
                                        • 107089
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by MasterBlogger
                                        True sexual equality would recognize the lifetime union of any two persons.

                                        It's a sad day in the USA.
                                        Point of order . . . our state allows for same sex couples to get the same rights as married couples.

                                        In other words, you and your boyfriend can be treated as man and wife, and collect the benefits. . . however, me and my girlfriend have to get married to collect them.

                                        If there is any descrimination it is against hetero-sexual couples

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                                          • baddog
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                                            • Apr 2001
                                            • 107089
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by KRL
                                            Exactly from the same puritans that felt there was nothing wrong with abducting black men, women and children from Africa, bringing them here chained in the bottom of boats without food and water, throwing sick ones overboard, bringing them to the US to work on plantations and be whipped if they didn't do their work, deprive them of even basic human rightsl, treat them like they are lower than animals, etc.
                                            are you high?

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                                              • jimmyf
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                                                • Feb 2001
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                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by baddog
                                                are you high?
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                                                  • baddog
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                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                    • 107089
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by WarChild


                                                    Allow gay men and women to have civil unions, with ALL the rights and privledges attached to marriage.

                                                    California already does that

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                                                      • baddog
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                        • 107089
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by KRL
                                                        Are you shitting me Jimmy?

                                                        Get real here. 99% of the people in this country break one law or another every single day.

                                                        Why the fuck do so many people look at "law" as if it is a concrete word from God.

                                                        Fuck the laws.
                                                        okay, so you are high . . . thank you.

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                                                          • WarChild
                                                            Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                            • 17263
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                                            California already does that
                                                            I don't understand the problem then.

                                                            Marriage is founded in religion and established to be between a man and a woman.
                                                            .

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                                                              • baddog
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                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                • 107089
                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by KRL
                                                                The majority of the US population supported depriving blacks and women of their civil liberties for hundreds of years.

                                                                Just because the majority supports something does not mean it is right.
                                                                a majority did? where do you get your stats anyway?

                                                                and guess what, they chaged the fucking laws, didn't they? that is all they have to do.

                                                                say, do they allow gay marriages in FL? didn't think so

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                                                                  • baddog
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                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                    • 107089
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Originally posted by KRL
                                                                    Baloney. Well over half the people don't even vote any more.
                                                                    there is a school of thought that when people don't vote it is because they are satisfied with how things are going as is

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                                                                      • baddog
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                                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                                        • 107089
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Originally posted by WarChild
                                                                        I don't understand the problem then.

                                                                        Marriage is founded in religion and established to be between a man and a woman.
                                                                        exactly

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                                                                          • gin
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                                                                            • Sep 2003
                                                                            • 672
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by crockett
                                                                            I wonder what would happen if the people decided this govt was nolonger working and decided it was time to start a new one..
                                                                            I've alwyase wondered this to.. because I sure didn't vote for the goverment to be there. If like 30% of america's just said "fuck you im not paying taxes" what can they do? not a thing. it's ok to live by rules.. but rules never go away, there is just more and more. which get dumber and dumber. if we didn't pay taxes what would happen? we woulnd't be bombing other countries right now wasting money

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                                                                              • Pleasurepays
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                                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                                • 11913
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by WarChild
                                                                                I don't understand the problem then.

                                                                                Marriage is founded in religion and established to be between a man and a woman.
                                                                                '


                                                                                The "problem" apparently, is that the Supreme Court correctly upheld the LAW as they are supposed to.

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                                                                                  • WarChild
                                                                                    Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                                    • 17263
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                                    '


                                                                                    The "problem" apparently, is that the Supreme Court correctly upheld the LAW as they are supposed to.
                                                                                    I think the REAL problem is the Liberal extremists are fucking bored. Seriously, go have a craft fair or something guys.
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                                                                                      • TheJimmy
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                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                        • 10747
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                        Are you shitting me Jimmy?

                                                                                        Get real here. 99% of the people in this country break one law or another every single day.

                                                                                        Why the fuck do so many people look at "law" as if it is a concrete word from God.

                                                                                        Fuck the laws. Most laws are bullshit designed by special interests not the people.

                                                                                        Wake up.

                                                                                        You think our browsers are getting hijacked?

                                                                                        Your rights are what's getting hijacked with this ultra right wing government of ours.


                                                                                        again, sooooo true



                                                                                        I can often be quoted as refering to 'the law' as: "OVERPRICED OPINION OF THE MOMENT"


                                                                                        that's really all it is, it changes so dramatically and is really just a snap shot opion of those over 50 at large in any given society...
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                                                                                          • Centurion
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                                                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                                                            • 6033
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by Pleasurepays

                                                                                            the fact that the majority support something means it's "right" simply because we have a political system where the "majority" makes the rules.

                                                                                            it has always been true that "when more people agree with you, the more "right" you become"
                                                                                            Hmm..really?

                                                                                            Well, over 50% of the German people supported Adolph Hitler and the Nazis. So did that make them RIGHT to conquer nations and enslave jews?

                                                                                            And the over WHELMING # of Muslims detest the United States (for whatever reason), does that make the Muslims RIGHT to do whatever they want then in regards to their actions taken towards the "western" world?

                                                                                            Eerily enough..if that makes THEM all "RIGHT", then that means the United States has been "WRONG" many times.

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                                                                                              • Centurion
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                                                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                                                • 6033
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                                                a 300 plus year history of this system of government functioning very well is good enough apparently for people to put their faith in it
                                                                                                So the first 100 years that you could legally own slaves was an example of our government working well?

                                                                                                The first almost 150 years of denying women the right to vote was an example of our government working well?

                                                                                                Because the majority THEN (let's say 1800) believed it was all right to own slaves, would you say that was a moral way to treat the "negro"?

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                                                                                                  • Centurion
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                                                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                                                    • 6033
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Pleasurepays

                                                                                                    2) People are largely intollerent of gays and gay issues. Ever seen a "gay pride parade" holy shit. No fucking wonder no one is on their side or takes them seriously.

                                                                                                    You HONESTLY think a "gay pride parade" is truly a fully reflective example of what the "typical" gay man/woman's lifestyle is like?

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                                                                                                      • WarChild
                                                                                                        Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                                                                        • 17263
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        Originally posted by Centurion

                                                                                                        You HONESTLY think a "gay pride parade" is truly a fully reflective example of what the "typical" gay man/woman's lifestyle is like?
                                                                                                        They might aswell rename it to Fag Pride Parade.

                                                                                                        The difference being that if you have a personality, and your sexual preference is same sex ... You are gay.

                                                                                                        If your sexuality completely takes over your personality, you're a fag.
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                                                                                                          • Pleasurepays
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                                                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                                                            • 11913
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            Originally posted by Centurion
                                                                                                            So the first 100 years that you could legally own slaves was an example of our government working well?

                                                                                                            The first almost 150 years of denying women the right to vote was an example of our government working well?

                                                                                                            Because the majority THEN (let's say 1800) believed it was all right to own slaves, would you say that was a moral way to treat the "negro"?
                                                                                                            yes.

                                                                                                            because the laws reflected the will of the majority of people and the social climate of those times. in case you missed "government 101" - thats the way it's supposed to work.

                                                                                                            i could use your same logic to make the point that all those things were changed as social attitudes of the majority changed. isn't that "working well"? thats how a government is supposed to work. no one is saying its perfect. but it's a little silly to pick out a few exceptions from the millions of issues it deals with quite effectively to make the point that its broken and out of touch.

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                                                                                                              • Pleasurepays
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                                                                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                • 11913
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Originally posted by Centurion

                                                                                                                You HONESTLY think a "gay pride parade" is truly a fully reflective example of what the "typical" gay man/woman's lifestyle is like?
                                                                                                                no.

                                                                                                                but it is the image that gets burned into peoples minds. not saying its right or wrong... just a fact. a bunch of idiots in dresses and makeup and bondage wear that no one wants their kids around.

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                                                                                                                  • theking
                                                                                                                    Nice Kitty
                                                                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                    • 21053
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by gin
                                                                                                                    I've alwyase wondered this to.. because I sure didn't vote for the goverment to be there. If like 30% of america's just said "fuck you im not paying taxes" what can they do? not a thing. it's ok to live by rules.. but rules never go away, there is just more and more. which get dumber and dumber. if we didn't pay taxes what would happen? we woulnd't be bombing other countries right now wasting money
                                                                                                                    If you do not vote in city, county, state or federal governmental elections maybe you should have...and if people decided not to pay taxes...we would not only be not bombing countries...we would not have any but private schools...no highways...no bridges...no railway system...no airlines...no parks...no police force...no fireman...etc. etc. and of course no...military...which would ultimately mean...no country.
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                                                                                                                      • theking
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                                                                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                        • 21053
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Centurion
                                                                                                                        Hmm..really?

                                                                                                                        Well, over 50% of the German people supported Adolph Hitler and the Nazis. So did that make them RIGHT to conquer nations and enslave jews?

                                                                                                                        And the over WHELMING # of Muslims detest the United States (for whatever reason), does that make the Muslims RIGHT to do whatever they want then in regards to their actions taken towards the "western" world?

                                                                                                                        Eerily enough..if that makes THEM all "RIGHT", then that means the United States has been "WRONG" many times.
                                                                                                                        As usual...with your wee brain that has little to no ability to comprehend...you missed the point of his post.
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                                                                                                                          • Theo
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                                                                                                                            • May 2001
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                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            I'ts a sad day for me and Equinox.

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                                                                                                                              • theking
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                                                                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                • 21053
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Centurion

                                                                                                                                You HONESTLY think a "gay pride parade" is truly a fully reflective example of what the "typical" gay man/woman's lifestyle is like?
                                                                                                                                Are you intimate with their life style...if so...how did you come by this intimacy?
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                                                                                                                                  • WarChild
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                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                    • 17263
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by theking
                                                                                                                                    Are you intimate with their life style...if so...how did you come by this intimacy?
                                                                                                                                    I'd say I am.

                                                                                                                                    I dated a girl for several years who is a broadway actress now. I had the opportunity to spend quite a lot of time with her while she was touring doing musicals. Somewhere around 99.9999991% of all the male dancers she worked with were gay. I can only think of two that were not.

                                                                                                                                    I've never had a problem with a gay man. I don't care how somebody is sexually aligned.

                                                                                                                                    I have had problems with flaming queens that incist on impressing just HOW gay they are on you. You weren't born with that fucking lisp, speak fucking normally. I can't stand queens.
                                                                                                                                    Last edited by WarChild; 08-12-2004, 03:18 PM.
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                                                                                                                                      • theking
                                                                                                                                        Nice Kitty
                                                                                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                        • 21053
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by WarChild
                                                                                                                                        I'd say I am.

                                                                                                                                        I dated a girl for several years who is a broadway actress now. I had the opportunity to spend quite a lot of time with her while she was touring doing musicals. Somewhere around 99.9999991% of all the male dancers she worked with were gay. I can only think of two that were not.

                                                                                                                                        I've never had a problem with a gay man. I don't care how somebody is sexually aligned.

                                                                                                                                        I have had problems with flaming queens that incist on impressing just HOW gay they are on you. You weren't born with that fucking lisp, speak fucking normally. I can't stand queens.
                                                                                                                                        I do not knowingly know any gays at this point in time..."queens" or otherwise and if I did I would not associate with them...I never have. Before someone asks why I have not...and would not associate with them...much for the same reason that I do not assoicate with...say members of the American Nazi Party or the L.A. Crypts...I don't like them.
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                                                                                                                                          • Theo
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                                                                                                                                            • May 2001
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                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            It's not the law or anything like that. It's our duty to protect our kids from gay people.

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                                                                                                                                              • Centurion
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                                                                                                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                • 6033
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                                                                                                yes.

                                                                                                                                                because the laws reflected the will of the majority of people and the social climate of those times. in case you missed "government 101" - thats the way it's supposed to work.

                                                                                                                                                i could use your same logic to make the point that all those things were changed as social attitudes of the majority changed. isn't that "working well"? thats how a government is supposed to work. no one is saying its perfect. but it's a little silly to pick out a few exceptions from the millions of issues it deals with quite effectively to make the point that its broken and out of touch.
                                                                                                                                                It's not silly at all.
                                                                                                                                                My point is that no matter how great a government might be or even what the "majority" of Americans think, it doesn't always equate with being moral.

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                                                                                                                                                  • Centurion
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                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by theking
                                                                                                                                                    Are you intimate with their life style...if so...how did you come by this intimacy?
                                                                                                                                                    You are hysterical! You're "usual" line is "you don't comprehend anything" comes back to bite you on your ass big time! You really MUST be drunk/stoned most of the time.

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                                                                                                                                                      • Centurion
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                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by theking
                                                                                                                                                        I do not knowingly know any gays at this point in time..."queens" or otherwise and if I did I would not associate with them...I never have. Before someone asks why I have not...and would not associate with them...much for the same reason that I do not assoicate with...say members of the American Nazi Party or the L.A. Crypts...I don't like them.
                                                                                                                                                        THIS IS THE BEST NEWS I'VE EVER RECEIVED ON GFY!
                                                                                                                                                        YOU HAVE SOOOOOOOOO MADE MY DAY CLUELESS!

                                                                                                                                                        Here's where you're "you cannot comprehend" lines comes back and bites you big time clueless!

                                                                                                                                                        Now remember..you MUST keep your promise. Do NOT associate with people you know are GAY!! (Because you are an admitted BIGOT!)

                                                                                                                                                        So here it is Mr. "I'm not in touch with reality as the majority of people know it."..............


                                                                                                                                                        I'M GAY!
                                                                                                                                                        I'M GAY
                                                                                                                                                        I'M GAY GAY GAY GAY!

                                                                                                                                                        So go to your room and drink yourself into another stupor cuz I never want to see you replying to any of my messages again. If you do, you're breaking your self appointed bigot pledge of not associating with GAYS!

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                                                                                                                                                          • baddog
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                                                                                                                                                            • Apr 2001
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                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                                                                                                                            It's not the law or anything like that. It's our duty to protect our kids from gay people.
                                                                                                                                                            no, it is the law

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                                                                                                                                                              • Pleasurepays
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                                                                                                                                                                #90
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Centurion
                                                                                                                                                                It's not silly at all.
                                                                                                                                                                My point is that no matter how great a government might be or even what the "majority" of Americans think, it doesn't always equate with being moral.

                                                                                                                                                                We are not talking abour morality dipshit. That is completely subjective and cannot be defined for every person. What are talking about is the law and the legal system which is considerably less ambiguous than your idea of what is moral and what is not.

                                                                                                                                                                The Supreme Court upheld the law and struck down a bunch of illegal marriages.. marriages which people knew to be illegal at the time. No one is saying you can or can't suck a cock.

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                                                                                                                                                                  • Centurion
                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                    • 6033
                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                                                                                                                    We are not talking abour morality dipshit. That is completely subjective and cannot be defined for every person. What are talking about is the law and the legal system which is considerably less ambiguous than your idea of what is moral and what is not.

                                                                                                                                                                    The Supreme Court upheld the law and struck down a bunch of illegal marriages.. marriages which people knew to be illegal at the time. No one is saying you can or can't suck a cock.
                                                                                                                                                                    Right back at ya dildo breath.

                                                                                                                                                                    You skipped from the examples I asked you about to talk about gay marriages and that was not my question at all!

                                                                                                                                                                    I think civilization has for the most part upheld many "morals" through our very humanity. Treat others well, don't steal, don't kill..etc.

                                                                                                                                                                    Your point was that MAJORITY opinion makes things right or wrong. My point was that majority opinion is not always what IS morally right!

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                                                                                                                                                                      • Pleasurepays
                                                                                                                                                                        BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                                                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                        • 11913
                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Centurion
                                                                                                                                                                        Right back at ya dildo breath.

                                                                                                                                                                        You skipped from the examples I asked you about to talk about gay marriages and that was not my question at all!

                                                                                                                                                                        I think civilization has for the most part upheld many "morals" through our very humanity. Treat others well, don't steal, don't kill..etc.

                                                                                                                                                                        Your point was that MAJORITY opinion makes things right or wrong. My point was that majority opinion is not always what IS morally right!

                                                                                                                                                                        Ok... well, we are talking about gay marriage and the law and everything within that context... not gassing jews or slaughtering villages who refuse to convert to Islam 1500 years ago.

                                                                                                                                                                        You bring up "morally right" within the context of gay marriage and then try to equate morals to the ten commandments as if everyone shares a common view of "morally right" on every issue. The really appauling thing is that people are arrogant enough to consider their view the "morally right" view when they represent the minority opinion. (dont be a fucking idiot and bring up hitler again - this is just simple politics, not world conquest and the eradication of an entire race of people)

                                                                                                                                                                        I dont think "morally right" has anything to do with the gay marriage. That is nothing more than an ambiguous and incendiary term that gets thrown around because you cannot formulate a stronger and more convincing argument to sway peoples opinions The issue at hand 's simply about the law and the legal system in place. There is a law there. If you don't like the law... Fight to change it. If you can't get enough people on board to change it... then it would seem to me that it is not an important issue to enough people to warrant a change. It's how the game is played.


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                                                                                                                                                                          • theking
                                                                                                                                                                            Nice Kitty
                                                                                                                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                            • 21053
                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Centurion
                                                                                                                                                                            THIS IS THE BEST NEWS I'VE EVER RECEIVED ON GFY!
                                                                                                                                                                            YOU HAVE SOOOOOOOOO MADE MY DAY CLUELESS!

                                                                                                                                                                            Here's where you're "you cannot comprehend" lines comes back and bites you big time clueless!

                                                                                                                                                                            Now remember..you MUST keep your promise. Do NOT associate with people you know are GAY!! (Because you are an admitted BIGOT!)

                                                                                                                                                                            So here it is Mr. "I'm not in touch with reality as the majority of people know it."..............


                                                                                                                                                                            I'M GAY!
                                                                                                                                                                            I'M GAY
                                                                                                                                                                            I'M GAY GAY GAY GAY!

                                                                                                                                                                            So go to your room and drink yourself into another stupor cuz I never want to see you replying to any of my messages again. If you do, you're breaking your self appointed bigot pledge of not associating with GAYS!
                                                                                                                                                                            I assoiciate with the board...but not with a single person or bot that posts to the board. To be a bigot is to be "intolerant"...and I tolerate gays when I come across them just as I tolerate those from the Nazi American Party and L.A. Crypts and anyone else that I do not like...I choose not to associate with any of them, It isn't really a lack of comprehension on your part...it is...to put it simply...you are stupid.
                                                                                                                                                                            When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

                                                                                                                                                                            FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...http://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

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                                                                                                                                                                              • fr8
                                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                • 5074
                                                                                                                                                                                #94
                                                                                                                                                                                Well that sure pissed off alot of gays. lol
                                                                                                                                                                                █ joesmut (a) gmail Dot com
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • p1mpdogg
                                                                                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 16714
                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    thank god
                                                                                                                                                                                    fuck the faggots and dykes

                                                                                                                                                                                    same sex marrige hould punishable by death
                                                                                                                                                                                    A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • BRISK
                                                                                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 12240
                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        SWEET LAND OF LIBERTY!
                                                                                                                                                                                        I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                                                                                                                                                                        I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Joe Citizen
                                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 4552
                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                                                                                                                                                            thank god
                                                                                                                                                                                            fuck the faggots and dykes

                                                                                                                                                                                            same sex marrige hould punishable by death
                                                                                                                                                                                            Inbreeding is a sad thing.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • theking
                                                                                                                                                                                                Nice Kitty
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 21053
                                                                                                                                                                                                #98
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                                                                                                                                                                                                Inbreeding is a sad thing.
                                                                                                                                                                                                Yes it is...are you going to break from your family and stop the practice...or is it to late for you to do that?
                                                                                                                                                                                                When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

                                                                                                                                                                                                FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...http://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Centurion
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 6033
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by theking
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I assoiciate with the board...but not with a single person or bot that posts to the board. To be a bigot is to be "intolerant"...and I tolerate gays when I come across them just as I tolerate those from the Nazi American Party and L.A. Crypts and anyone else that I do not like...I choose not to associate with any of them, It isn't really a lack of comprehension on your part...it is...to put it simply...you are stupid.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Please..do continue to bury yourself in bullshit!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Rochard
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 75761
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #100
                                                                                                                                                                                                        I fail to understand where the arguement is here. Marriage is define as a husband and wife, a man and a woman. I am married. I am a man, thus I am married to a woman.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Gays have every right to have exact legal bind between themselves. I don't object to this in any form. However, they seem to have this in their legal union which has the same legal rights as a marriage.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        My point is this: When I go to the DMV or the doctors office and they ask me if I'm married I want there to be no confusion that I am in fact married to a woman. This is how I define marriage; I don't ever want someone to ask me if I'm married to a man or a woman.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I have two friends here who are gay, and have been living together since before I met my wife (ten years or so). They have no burning desire to put a label on their relationship and I agree with them. God bless them - They do what they want and could less what anyone things or what the law thinks.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Herschel Savage
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Brooklyn, NY

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