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08-11-2004, 09:04 AM

Originally posted by Sjelefall
Taboo, great advice on local domains

What about industries other than real estate? Do domains like <local city>jewelry.com or such have any value?
How would one market them? Just call up people in the industry and see if they are interested?

Thanks for the great thread!

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08-11-2004, 09:20 AM

I'm running another domain drop test today. I'm not sure why I keep calling it a "test"... I wouldn't mind owning the names if I got them. I'll post results in a few hours when we also find out who picked up PRD.com
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08-11-2004, 09:56 AM

if anyone has a good dating/romance domain for sale let me know
i'm ready to pay in the range of 5 figures

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08-11-2004, 10:38 AM

its good to invest in good domains. otherwise u can invest in shares and stocks.

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08-11-2004, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by Darkystar
if anyone has a good dating/romance domain for sale let me know
i'm ready to pay in the range of 5 figures

icq# 296779
or email me olegwn at yahoo dot com

low5fig or mid5fig+?

how about 6 figures?
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08-11-2004, 11:51 AM

it's 4pm est, anyone know who got PRD.com?
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08-11-2004, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by wtfent
I bought wildestcollegeparties.com about a year ago for $8.95 off of Godaddy and have already had two offers on it for over 5k, its not for sale though becasue we have plans for it. So yea if you find the right domains you can make good money.

I picked up kinkcast.com yesterday for $8.88. I couldn't believe my eyes. An awesome domain for any kind of fetish movie site. Yup, they are out there.

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08-11-2004, 01:24 PM

supposedly drop club (enom) got it.

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08-11-2004, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by Forkbeard
I picked up kinkcast.com yesterday for $8.88. I couldn't believe my eyes. An awesome domain for any kind of fetish movie site. Yup, they are out there.

Pass that shit around!
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08-11-2004, 02:08 PM

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08-11-2004, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by Darkystar
if anyone has a good dating/romance domain for sale let me know
i'm ready to pay in the range of 5 figures

icq# 296779
or email me olegwn at yahoo dot com

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08-11-2004, 03:00 PM

Yes, PRD.com was caught by enom, it showed up real late today, but they beat out pool.com again across the board for premiums today. I ran a 2nd drop test today for 20+ domains backordered everywhere, but only some on the list were exclusive backordered by GD/BR. All names were caught by the drop services I used, with enom as the clear winner again and namewinner as the distant loser with ZERO results. I'll post results for 2nd round of drop tests after i take a break, been in the mines all day long.
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08-11-2004, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by montel
its good to invest in good domains. otherwise u can invest in shares and stocks.

ok. so what stocks do you recommend?
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08-11-2004, 03:05 PM

Winning strategy is buying from me.
You'll need lotsa ca$h howeva.

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08-11-2004, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by Forkbeard
I picked up kinkcast.com yesterday for $8.88. I couldn't believe my eyes. An awesome domain for any kind of fetish movie site. Yup, they are out there.

I'm not saying the opposite of AVM just because we never agree on anything, but for resale value, its doubtful that name will bring in big bucks. but obviously since you own kinkmoney.com, kinkcast.com is a great name for a streaming or vod type site for your "kink" network.

there are over 7,000+ domains ending in "cast.com"
http://www.domainsurfer.com/ssearch.cgi?dom=cast.com
so you're not alone. plus I have a few of my own for mainstream+adult

also, i just found 2 kink domains available, that you can have if you email me. i was going to reserve them to trade you for some of your domains, but the names are yours if you want them. and with them you can build your kink empire.

sponsorcash | at | mail | . | com

or use any email addy on my www site above.

you've got till sunset cause they're looking attractive.
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08-11-2004, 03:37 PM

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Winning strategy is buying from me.
You'll need lotsa ca$h howeva.

Winning strategy is buying from me.
You'll need lotsa ca$h howeva.

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I thought you were spending your $180,000 to buy? I see you're the one that owns certificates.com - Did you also buy certificate.com from afternic? If so, you beat me by a day. We must have been on a shopping spree the same week at the same site, cause I cleaned their site out* and next on my hitlist was: certificate.com, ipo.com and group.com

funny thing with group.com, I had negotiated the guy down from his lofty price and had him real low around 6-8k, when someone bought it at sticker for $20,000. literally we were exchanging emails via AN's system and we both got the alert at the same time (cause it was on my watch list) and we were both shocked and laughing. I had to wish him congrats. but he had some weird shit going on where I would have to carry 100+ clients for the rest of the year that had bought subdomain.group.com from them.

If you're the one who bought certificate.com, congrats. higher than I was gonna pay ($15k+). Lots of stuff went down the same week: Certificate.com, Companionship.com*, Planners.com*, Group.com
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08-11-2004, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by Taboo
I'm not saying the opposite of AVM just because we never agree on anything, but for resale value, its doubtful that name will bring in big bucks. but obviously since you own kinkmoney.com, kinkcast.com is a great name for a streaming or vod type site for your "kink" network.

Yeah. When I said "awesome", I didn't mean it was in the same league as the big dollar properties you guys are playing with. I think it's an awesome name to have registered for $8.88, and I wouldn't be shocked to sell it for a thousand or so someday to a guy building a site like pimpcast.com. Meanwhile, as you say it has nice synergy with my kinkmoney.com domain. My only point was that there are still some very nice domains running around loose. And hey, if I'm smoking crack, at least it's *cheap* crack.

I'll email you about those other kink domains.

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08-11-2004, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by Taboo
Everything you said is correct.

but because of so many strategies, combinations of strategies, or sheer luck... it doesn't matter how much capital you start with. Or what your "perceived value" of the domain is. This market can bite you in the ass and you could lose your house if you're not careful. and yes, some have come crying to forums saying exactly that. and its painful to read. if you started with $100 today, you could still make a fortune. if you started with $100k now, you could lose it all if the domain market u-turns and the vein you "wisely" mined is obsolete. with $100.00, your risk is minimal, but so are your options and the opposite with $100k.

There is great risked involved in having lots of capital and we all know it doesn't translate into success by any means. Not even in the adult world. I only need to point to the cash/stock acquisition of business.com back in the heyday of the original domain wave. When the incubator, eCompanies (started by ppl from Disney and Earthlink) made that $7.5M cash/stock acquisition, the domain market skyrocketed and other companies with massive funding followed their lead for fear of being left behind. Where is that site now in terms of competing with Hoovers, WSJ, Thomas Registry, etc? For the $7.5M they spent you would think the name Business.com would be the juggernaut of the internet. It isn't. maybe in the future, but not now. In fact, they get laughed at when ppl look at the first bubble. But back then, because of perceived value, other incubators, VCs, fortune 100s,etc went on a buying spree believing that a category-killer domain = success on the IPO markets or guaranteed other liquidity events. Before domains were bought, there was an exit-strategy already in place. eBusiness.com was bought by another incubator, IdeaLab, for far less than Business.com, but because of "perceived value" at that point in time, it was a great coup for them. When was the last time you visited either site or even knew that eBusiness.com existed? That new bubble looks like it'll be fueled by smarter purchases because the net has matured into "fee over free" (thank god) and there is an easy way to monetize traffic now. But all this could disappear overnight for too many reasons I would not get into now, some of which are tech-influenced, some aren't. But even smart companies miss the boat sometimes, for example, ebusiness.com, because it never really launched, should have been flipped a few years ago when a Fortune 100 rolled out their 100+ million dollar ad campaign that featured the "ebusiness" term everywhere. but it's still owned by the same ppl because they weren't exploring all their options. Why do I keep bring them up? Because when I approached them and told them I could flip it for them in less than 30 days for $10,000,000 and anything above that price would be mine to keep, they rejected the idea and said impossible: "The Game is Over" - if you had only seen the site back in the day, you would have smiled (wayback machine at Internet Archive to see for yourself). Their incubator had received over $1 Billion in funding, but because of investors suing for their money back because of "overhang" and more misses than hits, they have less than $150,000,000 left. Which is a lot of money to have, but sad when compared with the amount that got "vapor"ized . All this is publicly available at lexis-nexis and searching tech law firms and vc boards. But maybe they'll get a chance during the second wave to try to build or flip again.

Look at ClearDay.com, formerly an internet wedding album site that flipped their domain this year for $60,000. (Internet Archive).

Look at the #1 reported sale for this week:
BoiseRealEstate.com $50,000
http://www.dnjournal.com/domainsales.htm

I'm sure some of the current owners of other "CITY/STATE"RealEstate.comS have no idea of what they are sitting on. Can't hurt to contact them and see what they're selling for before other realtors read in realtor newswires about this week's purchase. Why did I bring this up, because I'm sure there are plenty of smaller, localized CITYRealEstate.comS available right now for under $10. So for those that want to get in cheap, look to your local markets and spend some time seeing if any domains are yours for the taking. because they won't be in a week because every realtor out there will scoop them up if they haven't already. I don't want people to think they can't start with $10, because they can, I just showed them how.

After reading the dnjournal article, I found 5 in my local area that were sitting there and shouldn't have been, if I was doing my job. But play it smart, don't grab every city, region in your area, only those where you know a realtor would want to advertise, buy or license, YES license the domain from you. AND do NOT reserve domains with the word REALTOR, it is a trademarked word and you will get a guaranteed C&D in the mail.

also, check for:
NameofCity Homes.com
NameofCity Realty.com
ISellNameofCity .com
NameofCity Guide.com
NameofCity Online.com

if you want to stretch the vein, not always a good idea, try these terms: Search,Portal,News,etc.

good luck.

i'm deep in the mines right now. meet you there.

Well I disagree on that.

Having money gives you the ability to be a player in the marketplace. Money brings power. True it doesn't guarantee success in every endeavor, but it gives you the staying power to endure the failures and go on to the next deal.

You can also catch desparate people looking for quick cash deals.

You can buy the bigger domains, most can only dream of.

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08-11-2004, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by Forkbeard
Yeah. When I said "awesome", I didn't mean it was in the same league as the big dollar properties you guys are playing with. I think it's an awesome name to have registered for $8.88, and I wouldn't be shocked to sell it for a thousand or so someday to a guy building a site like pimpcast.com. Meanwhile, as you say it has nice synergy with my kinkmoney.com domain. My only point was that there are still some very nice domains running around loose. And hey, if I'm smoking crack, at least it's *cheap* crack.

I'll email you about those other kink domains.

no, i liked it. i explained in my email to you what to do with it and the list of domains I sent you. if you dont want them, let me know.
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08-11-2004, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by KRL
Well I disagree on that.

Having money gives you the ability to be a player in the marketplace. Money brings power. True it doesn't guarantee success in every endeavor, but it gives you the staying power to endure the failures and go on to the next deal.

You can also catch desparate people looking for quick cash deals.

You can buy the bigger domains, most can only dream of.

You can use your acquisitions to get other good deals coming your way before others know about them.

I agree with you on all your points.

I'm not here to mislead people, and I don't want to give them false hope. I'm trying to show people with tight budgets, that they can turn $100 into a nice revenue stream. You can be a player in any industry just by networking. I know plenty of ppl without ferraris that rub shoulders with politicians, tv personalities, etc. Sometimes ideas are worth more than money because there are always people out there with more money than ideas. always. you can buy bigger more expensive domains with lots of money, or you can buy cheap domains in the "mines" that the big boys leave behind. my first sale cost me $70 and i sold it for 4fig. My next sale cost me $110 (package of domains) and sold it for 6fig. The sale after that cost me $35, but resulted in a very nice payday. None of these names were generics. Some were 2 worders. 3 worders. but I mined a vein that no one cared about and when the buyers could not "afford" the generic domains that would help them dominate their industry, they came to me, because I was cheaper and still had a brandable buildable domain for them.

yes, its better to have money than not too. but if you're not careful, you get lazy, comfortable, blind, relaxed and you start leaving crumbs behind. and what you leave behind makes your competition stronger. i only bought premium names this year because I heard chatter among VC and other industries about being over-funded, IPOs, opportunities and i had a feeling the bubble would start again and the domain market would skyrocket, and it did. and its just getting started. I had a feeling that I could close a 7 figure deal if I timed it right and I will. the premiums I bought aren't for resale, they're for VC funding. the names I'll be flipping aren't premiums at all, but they are category-killer, industry-defining terms/names that company A will buy because they don't want company B to have it. names I bought for $6.50 - that's what i'm trying to share with everyone is there is plenty of opportunity out there, even if you spend $10.

having money is not what got me here. i didn't go to college. i didn't even finish high school with my class because I left home at 15 to work 2+ jobs. I started with nothing. absolutely nothing. I bootstrapped, ramen'd, and worked my ass off, but it kept me focused on one thing: success. but I learned the key to success is NOT money. it's networking.

back to the mines....
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08-11-2004, 08:54 PM

what do you guys think about .us domains ? Are they worth much ? will they be worth much ? I picked up a few for the hell of it...

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08-11-2004, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by ajpiii
what do you guys think about .us domains ? Are they worth much ? will they be worth much ? I picked up a few for the hell of it...

check out the weekly sales archive at dnjournal.com and get a feel for how much they sell for and what people are looking for in .us
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08-11-2004, 09:02 PM

Damn this thread is overwhelming with useful information.

I have an english single word domain that I may want to get rid of, and although the word is not quite as common, I'd like to see a possible value of it. Carries a PR6, too.

Where could I have the domain's value estimated?
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08-11-2004, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by Equinox
Damn this thread is overwhelming with useful information.

I have an english single word domain that I may want to get rid of, and although the word is not quite as common, I'd like to see a possible value of it. Carries a PR6, too.

Where could I have the domain's value estimated?

post it here and you'll get lots of free estimates.

seriously, post it here or click my www and shoot me an email. will take about a day for me to get to it. i'm being overwhelmed right now.
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08-12-2004, 05:02 AM

Originally posted by Forkbeard
I picked up kinkcast.com yesterday for $8.88. I couldn't believe my eyes. An awesome domain for any kind of fetish movie site. Yup, they are out there.

just saw the banner for HustlersTaboo.com:

"More KINK than you THINK."

Hope you picked up those names I sent you cause I got an itchy trigger finger...
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08-12-2004, 05:53 AM

I was checkin gout some SEO threads earlier, and people always saying anything to keep others out of the game, just like in the domain game. if you have to ask if there's money in an industry before you enter it, you haven't done the research and don't deserve to be playing the game. Never let your competition know what you are thinking. remember, it's never too late to get into any industry online. if you've got the stomach for it. in the beginning:

Lot of work.
Lot of research.
Lot of learning.
Lot of gleaning.
Lot of lies.
Lot of misdirection
Lot of sleepless nights
Lot of frustration.
Lot of competition.
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Lot of money.

Just look to yahoo, who at first, wasn't afraid of google, and google who isn't afraid of the new crop of startup search engines. there's always room for someone new to dominate the industry, because sooner or later the big boys get so strong, that they allow themselves to slowly get lazy, blind and weak, and the crumbs they leave behind, only make their competition stronger. some people are here to network, others are here to keep their competition close by. Never envy, hate or laugh at your competition, because it makes you weak and affects your judgement. just get in the game now, not because soon it'll be too late, but because there's no point to wait.
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08-12-2004, 07:31 AM

Originally posted by Taboo
just saw the banner for HustlersTaboo.com:

"More KINK than you THINK."

Hope you picked up those names I sent you cause I got an itchy trigger finger...

All but the last one, I did. Like I said, I owe you one. Nice domains!

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08-12-2004, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by Taboo
just saw the banner for HustlersTaboo.com:

"More KINK than you THINK."

Hope you picked up those names I sent you cause I got an itchy trigger finger...

I checked HustlerTaboo.com 3 hours ago but it's taken since a long time

I don't use ICQ anymore.
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08-12-2004, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by montel
its good to invest in good domains. otherwise u can invest in shares and stocks.

you can invest in a lot of things that will make you money
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08-12-2004, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by Manowar
you can invest in a lot of things that will make you money

and investing in yourself will make you the most.
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08-12-2004, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by montel
its good to invest in good domains. otherwise u can invest in shares and stocks.

The conversation has officially gone full circle ... (please see first post in thread)
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08-12-2004, 11:08 AM

Hey Taboo,

What is your DNForum screenname? I want to send you a PM.
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08-12-2004, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by smashface
Hey Taboo,

What is your DNForum screenname? I want to send you a PM.

please go to DomainIncubator and email me instead.
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08-13-2004, 09:33 AM

anybody in on the refurbished.com auction at pool? less than 2 days left and already at $9,000. what do you think it'll go for? prd.com at enom, 1 day left, is at $4,300.
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08-13-2004, 09:44 AM

(not imortant) domain news:
Domain name and shame
The web's plethora of domain extensions can lead to embarrassment
http://www.vnunet.com/comment/1157321

CD.com: One of the Last Great Domain Names Up for Sale; After Twelve Years the Domain Name CD.com is Available in Auction Starting August 23, 2004 $1M+
http://home.businesswire.com/portal/...93&newsLang=en
http://www.cd.com

sorry, but, LOLOLOL, , they sure waited long enough. now that DVDs have taken over. maybe some bank will pick it up. 75,000 type-ins a month...

but at least cd.com has a nice $million sales chart on the site.
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08-13-2004, 09:48 AM

i thought this guys domain was funny:

http://www.URLsGoneWild.net.

Wild Man Destroys Price Structure of Web Hosting Industry
URLs Gone Wild .net sticks a finger in the eye of traditional web hosting companies by offering the ?insane? hosting price of under 18 cents per month per domain for 100 domains on a fast web server.
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/8/prweb148819.htm
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08-13-2004, 01:19 PM

Taboo, you've got mail.
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08-15-2004, 08:46 AM

go here to read about the refurbished.com - domain auction
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=341272
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08-15-2004, 12:31 PM

I own beachwooddrive.com and beachwooddr.com

That is the street in Hollywood that leads to the Hollywood sign so tourists flock to it. It is also the main road up Beachwood Canyon (Hollywood Hills) so it would be valuable to real estate companies.

If anybody wants to help me sell it I will give you a cut.

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08-15-2004, 10:45 PM

Ok, I have a CEO of a company interested in buying a domain name and I have an order in at both GoDaddy.com and Pool.com

The name is currently registered with GoDaddy.com so is there still a chance that Pool.com will still catch it?

I will post the results later today.
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08-15-2004, 10:55 PM

anyone have any decent sample contract for leasing domains? Sedo is supposed to have one up, but their damn link is wrong.
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08-15-2004, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by monster310
Ok, I have a CEO of a company interested in buying a domain name and I have an order in at both GoDaddy.com and Pool.com

The name is currently registered with GoDaddy.com so is there still a chance that Pool.com will still catch it?

I will post the results later today.

godaddy doesnt catch shit... get snapnames on it too

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08-15-2004, 11:17 PM

sexforsell.com

currently in negotiations over it.
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08-15-2004, 11:33 PM

Originally posted by monster310
Ok, I have a CEO of a company interested in buying a domain name and I have an order in at both GoDaddy.com and Pool.com

The name is currently registered with GoDaddy.com so is there still a chance that Pool.com will still catch it?

I will post the results later today.

Cover it at eNom, Pool and SnapNames. I doubt anyone else will get it.

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08-15-2004, 11:37 PM

also have

drifttrack.com

and

drifttracks.com

its big with the import crowd and catching on fast. drifting races and competitions. tracks opening up around the US for just this very thing.
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08-15-2004, 11:52 PM

>>godaddy doesnt catch shit... get snapnames on it too

But shouldn't it help GoDaddy that the name is already registered with them? I would think it would matter if a name is registered with Enom and then you backorder it through them and the same with GoDaddy. Does that make sense?

also have it at Enom as well, so this will be interesting

Snapnames does not even have it listed as a possible drop name so I can't try it there. I have used them before but was on a domain that was not in high demand.

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08-16-2004, 03:46 AM

Monster: The domain is deleted by the registry (VeriSign, for .com/.net) according to a set schedule, so no registrar has any advantage being its prior registrar. You can see a chart of the process at:

http://www.snapnames.com/deleteprocess.html

I buy good domain names. Send lists to George (at) LOFFS.com
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08-16-2004, 04:35 AM

Here's results from a drop test (6 domains) I ran last week.
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=339006

second test results ready later today (20 domains)
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08-16-2004, 05:15 AM

just posted my 2nd domain drop test results:
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=341595

23 domains.
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08-16-2004, 06:18 AM

hm, I wonder what the domain biz will be in like 5 years.. should be interesting. I dont own great ones but some I do like.
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