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08-09-2004, 11:40 PM

Found a little trick while going thru some log files for a friends site.

If you play with it for a bit you should be able to rake some good money in.

I find the service of google's rather sly as they do not contact you and ask your permission to hotlink and resize your pictures.

As an artist i find it rather offensive that google thinks they have the right to resize and display artwork not intended to be viewed as such.

Heres part of the trick.

1. google doesn't care who's domain the picture is located on , only the domain that the picture is displayed on. ( think about this )

2. google blacklisted domains still hold image links ( and backlinks )

So , im not going to walk you thru it, but use the search feature to find how google ranks the pictures , then clone and duplicate..

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08-09-2004, 11:49 PM

You make some interesting posts when you're not too busy attempting
to justify your ongoing attempts to poke holes in GFY.
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08-09-2004, 11:52 PM

Thanks for the tips, Smokey, you fucking rock.

I've bookmarked this thread and will hold a conference call with my Russian developers regarding this issue.

I predict AT LEAST 3 bots being built around these issues.

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08-09-2004, 11:54 PM

nice, thanks for the info

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08-09-2004, 11:55 PM

I don't get it.

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08-09-2004, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by Groove
You make some interesting posts when you're not too busy attempting
to justify your ongoing attempts to poke holes in GFY.

"attempts to poke hole in gfy"

Would imply that the holes did not exist before someone poked them.

This is not the case.

What actually took place is , i noticed several people stealing boxes from the back of gfy , when i reported the theft , nothing happened , so i went in thru the open door and left a note detailing the robbery, when still i got no reply ( or i did but nothing was fixed ) then i proceeded to bring some elephants in gfy's backdoor to let everyone see how big of a hole they had.

These holes have since been patched, several new holes that exist have not been patched , but due to the incompetence of several people , i will sit back and watch the castle crumble instead of sending in the elephants , as last time all i heard was complaints about the elephants.

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08-09-2004, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by pure energy
Thanks for the tips, Smokey, you fucking rock.

I've bookmarked this thread and will hold a conference call with my Russian developers regarding this issue.

I predict AT LEAST 3 bots being built around these issues.

Thanks, again, man! You fucking ROCK!

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08-10-2004, 12:01 AM

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Those Russians know how to build spambots

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08-10-2004, 12:02 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
"attempts to poke hole in gfy"

Would imply that the holes did not exist before someone poked them.

This is not the case.

What actually took place is , i noticed several people stealing boxes from the back of gfy , when i reported the theft , nothing happened , so i went in thru the open door and left a note detailing the robbery, when still i got no reply ( or i did but nothing was fixed ) then i proceeded to bring some elephants in gfy's backdoor to let everyone see how big of a hole they had.

These holes have since been patched, several new holes that exist have not been patched , but due to the incompetence of several people , i will sit back and watch the castle crumble instead of sending in the elephants , as last time all i heard was complaints about the elephants.

Hehehe, there you go again with those justifications
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08-10-2004, 12:03 AM

Originally posted by Steen2
I don't get it.

well part of it would be , lets say if i post an image in this thread with some good tags , google will pick up the page as it crawls it and it will pick up the image, now when you search using google image search , it will display the picture thumbnail and this thread. ( even though the picture may be on another server )

But theres more. If you can pick up a blacklisted domain with lots of listed pages ( images ) it can be worth your while.

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08-10-2004, 12:07 AM

if you examine a google image link

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you will notice the imgurl is different from the imagerefurl

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08-10-2004, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
well part of it would be , lets say if i post an image in this thread with some good tags , google will pick up the page as it crawls it and it will pick up the image, now when you search using google image search , it will display the picture thumbnail and this thread. ( even though the picture may be on another server )

But theres more. If you can pick up a blacklisted domain with lots of listed pages ( images ) it can be worth your while.

i should put you on retainer ;)

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08-10-2004, 12:08 AM

Massive automated hotlinken Google spam
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08-10-2004, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by Groove
Massive automated hotlinken Google spam

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08-10-2004, 12:10 AM

I have lots of SE for pornstars coming from google images. very good targeted traffic I may add.

anyone want some of this traffic, let me know

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08-10-2004, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by pornstar2pac
I have lots of SE for pornstars coming from google images. very good targeted traffic I may add.

anyone want some of this traffic, let me know

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08-10-2004, 12:47 AM

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08-10-2004, 01:18 AM

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08-10-2004, 02:13 AM

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08-10-2004, 02:29 AM

The easiest way for using the traffic on a blacklisted domain is just redirecting all image requests or to delete the pictures and redirect.They only update every few months (I heard every 6 months) and I don't have a clue if they'll even check the existance of images on blacklisted domains.

I'm using my few blacklisted domains for yahoo tho.
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08-10-2004, 02:36 AM

how much traffic (that actually makes it to your site) is there from images compared to keyword searches, smokey?
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08-10-2004, 02:50 AM

Originally posted by kush
how much traffic (that actually makes it to your site) is there from images compared to keyword searches, smokey?

I'm not sure of your question ?

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08-10-2004, 02:57 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
I'm not sure of your question ?

Let's say you have the #1 google listing for a keyword that brings you 1000 visitors to your site a day from the web search.

Now let's say you have the #1 listing for that same keyword, except it's in the image search. How many visitors to your actual site might you expect from it?

I'm just wondering your best prediction.
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08-10-2004, 03:20 AM

Originally posted by kush
Let's say you have the #1 google listing for a keyword that brings you 1000 visitors to your site a day from the web search.

Now let's say you have the #1 listing for that same keyword, except it's in the image search. How many visitors to your actual site might you expect from it?

I'm just wondering your best prediction.

ahhh , good question... i don't know.. Quite a few from what it appears, as the images generally fall under many keywords, more than for the search feature.

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08-10-2004, 05:35 AM

Interesting indeed

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08-10-2004, 05:36 AM

Thanks man im going to use, it hope it work.
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08-10-2004, 06:00 AM

sounds like good info, wish i knew how to exploit it

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08-10-2004, 06:29 AM

Hi Smokey
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08-10-2004, 06:32 AM

I've seen some large amounts of google image traffic over the day, but the quality is highly diminished compared to regular se traffic.

Nice post though.
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08-10-2004, 06:37 AM

Originally posted by jawanda
I've seen some large amounts of google image traffic over the day, but the quality is highly diminished compared to regular se traffic.

A referral from google images results for the search 'teen' starting at image #640 is definitely a quality buyer ready to whip out his card!
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08-10-2004, 06:37 AM

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08-10-2004, 07:02 AM

So basicly only the domain matters ?

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08-10-2004, 07:14 AM

Originally posted by pornstar2pac
I have lots of SE for pornstars coming from google images. very good targeted traffic I may add.

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08-10-2004, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
Found a little trick while going thru some log files for a friends site.

If you play with it for a bit you should be able to rake some good money in.

I find the service of google's rather sly as they do not contact you and ask your permission to hotlink and resize your pictures.

As an artist i find it rather offensive that google thinks they have the right to resize and display artwork not intended to be viewed as such.

Heres part of the trick.

1. google doesn't care who's domain the picture is located on , only the domain that the picture is displayed on. ( think about this )

2. google blacklisted domains still hold image links ( and backlinks )

So , im not going to walk you thru it, but use the search feature to find how google ranks the pictures , then clone and duplicate..

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08-10-2004, 11:09 AM

Traffic from images.google.com is almost equal to kw searches but the conversion rate is not so high.
Also although google blacklists domains from their normal search they don't apply the ban to their images.google.com ,or they at least take several months to. I have many banned domains still getting google images traffic.
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08-10-2004, 11:15 AM

thanks for the great info!
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08-10-2004, 11:16 AM

Smokey, if I have htaccess set up to perevent hotlinking, can google still crawl and index my pics ? Or i need to allow googlebot in htaccess ?
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08-10-2004, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by DarkJedi
Smokey, if I have htaccess set up to perevent hotlinking, can google still crawl and index my pics ? Or i need to allow googlebot in htaccess ?

yes google can crawl and index your pics.
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08-11-2004, 02:23 AM

Originally posted by swami
yes google can crawl and index your pics.

swami, so what are basic steps to optimizing for google images search results ?

i'm a total newb here.

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08-11-2004, 02:49 AM

Originally posted by DarkJedi
swami, so what are basic steps to optimizing for google images search results ?

i'm a total newb here.

btw, him me up sometime, 30144710
i got some site to trade links etc.

image name , alt text and page title.

i would make individual image pages with title and image name matching keywords then link the pictures all together on each page.

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08-11-2004, 04:56 AM

Originally posted by pure energy
Thanks for the tips, Smokey, you fucking rock.

I've bookmarked this thread and will hold a conference call with my Russian developers regarding this issue.

Hummmmm, i'm willing to help you pay out for the shit
I predict AT LEAST 3 bots being built around these issues.

Thanks, again, man! You fucking ROCK!
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08-11-2004, 04:58 AM

Thanks man i used it and it work.
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08-11-2004, 05:04 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
...then link the pictures all together on each page.

You lost me here. Could you clarify this?
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08-11-2004, 05:06 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
image name , alt text and page title.

i would make individual image pages with title and image name matching keywords then link the pictures all together on each page.

Also... Does PR and link reputation play any role for image SERPs?
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08-11-2004, 05:26 AM

Good one ?
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08-11-2004, 05:46 AM

Originally posted by DarkJedi
Smokey, if I have htaccess set up to perevent hotlinking, can google still crawl and index my pics ? Or i need to allow googlebot in htaccess ?

I don't know how they do it but the search engine's can STILL hotlink your pics, even if you have htaccess.

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08-11-2004, 08:21 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
image name , alt text and page title.

i would make individual image pages with title and image name matching keywords then link the pictures all together on each page.

I agrre with Smokey though I don't link all pic pages together.I usualy link each one back to my main page to reinforce pr and anchor text for that page.Pr on your site definetly seems to help.All my sites with images get good placings.Sometimes and I don't know how they do it but they seem to know what the image is about without alt text or page title.
I remember seeing a pic of mine of a amateur chick with red hair..In no form did I mention that she had red hair but she came up in their image search for redhead girls.
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