For designers and clients: is it okay to ask downpayment upfront?

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  • angel_x3ws
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    • Jun 2005
    • 649

    #1

    For designers and clients: is it okay to ask downpayment upfront?

    Do you think it is right for designers who are just starting out to ask a downpayment from their client upfront? I am juz wondereing about this because we have been burned twice already by clients who ran out on us after we have given them their designs.. and didn't pay a single cent.. i need your opinions.
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  • Sid70
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    • Dec 2002
    • 16413

    #2
    depends. the days i was starting i wanted to make up my potfolio, so , i worked for free sometimes even.
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    • Steen2
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      • Feb 2004
      • 7662

      #3
      Yes.

      It sucks thought. I know there ar eso many crappy clients out there, and so many crappy designers too
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      • jonesy
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        • Jan 2003
        • 6688

        #4
        Originally posted by angel_x3ws
        Do you think it is right for designers who are just starting out to ask a downpayment from their client upfront? I am juz wondereing about this because we have been burned twice already by clients who ran out on us after we have given them their designs.. and didn't pay a single cent.. i need your opinions.
        if you havent learned from being burned twice .... get 50% up front.
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        • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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          • Mar 2003
          • 30307

          #5
          Always half to full upfront.

          No matter how hard they want a different deal.

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          • After Shock Media
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            • Mar 2001
            • 35299

            #6
            also do not hand over actual design without payment.
            Just show them an uncut jpg with a watermark on it.

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            • smack
              Push Porn Like Weight.
              • Mar 2002
              • 10652

              #7
              50% up front is not un reasonable. it's unfortunate that to keep from being scammed, in many cases it is neccesary to ask for a deposit. :\
              Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

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              • MyNameIsEmily
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                • Jan 2005
                • 887

                #8
                always...

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                • angel_x3ws
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                  • Jun 2005
                  • 649

                  #9
                  well does anyone else have other opnions.. please...
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                  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                    • Mar 2003
                    • 30307

                    #10
                    Originally posted by angel_x3ws
                    well does anyone else have other opnions.. please...
                    No unless you like getting ripped off.

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                    • angel_x3ws
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 649

                      #11
                      to all of you who posted out here thanks for your reply.. i'm gonna start applying this method.. but sometimes it kinda scares away the client.. to clients out there what do you think?
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                      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                        best designer on GFY
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 30307

                        #12
                        Originally posted by angel_x3ws
                        to all of you who posted out here thanks for your reply.. i'm gonna start applying this method.. but sometimes it kinda scares away the client.. to clients out there what do you think?
                        If they are afraid to put money up even half they are broke.
                        Find another client.

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                        • cool1
                          sex is good
                          • Sep 2001
                          • 24939

                          #13
                          YA Angel what they said
                          50% up front or don't do business with them.

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                          • Roald
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                            • May 2001
                            • 27910

                            #14
                            Originally posted by angel_x3ws
                            to all of you who posted out here thanks for your reply.. i'm gonna start applying this method.. but sometimes it kinda scares away the client.. to clients out there what do you think?
                            If people like your work/porfolio and know what you can do they will pay half upfront without a problem. I started to ask for at least half upfront since a year now and most don't care and even pay all upfront.

                            Problem is designers come and designers go, with new designers its always scary as they have 0 credibillity (most of the time) and lots of them are getting lazy after they got the payment.



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                            • shima
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                              • May 2003
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                              #15
                              Not always.

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                              • Azlord
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                                • Dec 2003
                                • 2651

                                #16
                                Depends on the client, if you know them and trust them I wouldn't require it. Some guy you have never dealt with I would almost always get something up front.

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                                • angel_x3ws
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                                  • Jun 2005
                                  • 649

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by QuaShe
                                  new designers its always scary as they have 0 credibillity (most of the time) and lots of them are getting lazy after they got the payment.

                                  well.. we are different.. we certainly take pride in delivering good quality service and professionalism is a very important aspect of our business.. that is i think why we got burned out.. they took advantage of us.. knowing that we are just new in this biz
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                                  • Roald
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                                    • May 2001
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Azlord
                                    Depends on the client, if you know them and trust them I wouldn't require it. Some guy you have never dealt with I would almost always get something up front.
                                    hm I tend to do this yes but half a year ago a client who always paid everything without a problem (talking several complete paysites here) decided to not pay me for the last 2 complete paysites. 1100 down the shitter.

                                    I do have clients though who I work for and they pay me after a month or 2 months and I just add everything till that payment date.

                                    Be carefull who to trust though


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                                    • Babagirls
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                                      • Feb 2001
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                                      #19
                                      50% upfront, the other 50% when completed.




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                                      • BiggleJones
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                                        • Dec 2002
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                                        #20
                                        Yes. I ALWAYS ask for half or 1/3 up front before anything has been started.

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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by angel_x3ws
                                          well.. we are different.. we certainly take pride in delivering good quality service and professionalism is a very important aspect of our business.. that is i think why we got burned out.. they took advantage of us.. knowing that we are just new in this biz
                                          Hang in there. It's a catch-22 at first.

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                                          • Roald
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                                            • May 2001
                                            • 27910

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by angel_x3ws
                                            well.. we are different.. we certainly take pride in delivering good quality service and professionalism is a very important aspect of our business.....
                                            That's what they all say. But if you are still here next year then more power to you. No pun intended.


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                                            • Forest
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                                              • Aug 2001
                                              • 9135

                                              #23
                                              I have a few clients i dont require 50% down on design but they are serious players and have always paid ontime

                                              any new business i require 50% down before work starts

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                                              • angel_x3ws
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jun 2005
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by QuaShe
                                                That's what they all say. But if you are still here next year then more power to you. No pun intended.
                                                don't worry we'll be here.. just for you we'll be here..hehehe
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                                                • angel_x3ws
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                                                  • Jun 2005
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by BiggleJones
                                                  Yes. I ALWAYS ask for half or 1/3 up front before anything has been started.
                                                  btw bigglejones.. i like your sig.. makes me feel sorry for the poor lady who got trampled down..must have hurt big time
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                                                  • Roald
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                                                    • May 2001
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by angel_x3ws
                                                    don't worry we'll be here.. just for you we'll be here..hehehe
                                                    Good news


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                                                    • Ace_luffy
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                                                      • Feb 2005
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                                                      #27
                                                      it depends on the client nor designers..


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