fast one: wtf is "12-point type" ?

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  • Zester
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    • Jul 2003
    • 5344

    #1

    fast one: wtf is "12-point type" ?

    from the 2257 new regulations:

    the required statement shall be displayed in typeface that is no less than 12-point type or no smaller than the second-largest typeface
    what is "12-point type" is css? font-size: 12px ?
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  • RuthB
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    • May 2005
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    #2
    that would sound like font size to me
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    • Chio The Pirate
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      • Oct 2002
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      #3
      Originally posted by Zester
      from the 2257 new regulations:



      what is "12-point type" is css? font-size: 12px ?

      YARGH! no font size specified be 12 point

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      • StuartD
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        • Jul 2002
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        #4
        yes, 12px
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        • FilthyRob
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          • Feb 2004
          • 6741

          #5
          I looked at the point size and font size= option and found that font size=3 is pretty close.

          If that makes sense so anyone.
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          • Rob
            I'm a great bowler.
            • Nov 2003
            • 13310

            #6
            12pt. is for print.
            12px. is for web.

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            • Kimmykim
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              • Jun 2001
              • 16015

              #7
              12 point is a font size. Though I'm not sure how anyone can guarantee 12 point as an absolute size when different screen resolutions make it relative on the computer, unlike in print.

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              • Zester
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                • Jul 2003
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                #8
                Originally posted by WEGRuth
                that would sound like font size to me
                the question is, is it: 12px, 12pm, 12pt or 12em ?
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                • Rob
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                  • Nov 2003
                  • 13310

                  #9
                  http://www.createwebmagic.com/css101...inc=sizing.inc

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                  • taibo
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                    • May 2005
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Zester
                    the question is, is it: 12px, 12pm, 12pt or 12em ?
                    the world will never know

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                    • Zester
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                      • Jul 2003
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                      #11
                      wow, damn it, you guys type fast, 4 answers to my question before I posted a refrine to my question
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                      • billywatson
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                        • Aug 2002
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                        #12
                        I know...how? I am a letterpress printer. This is an obsolete method of printing, and in order to understand points, you need to know what they are.

                        In printer's terms, we measure in points and picas. Throw inches and the metric system out the window.

                        There are 72 points in a inch. A 12 point typeface is standard size, so to speak...it's about the size of a letter printed in a book, or a newspaper.

                        Of course none of this matters, as monitor settings render all this worthless.

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                        • Zester
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                          • Jul 2003
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by billywatson
                          Of course none of this matters, as monitor settings render all this worthless.

                          This is how much the DOJ knows about the interner and our business.
                          one day i'll have to sit down and try to figure out how the fuck did these guys at the DOJ get the power to kill something they no nothing about

                          i'm not sure they even know what an "img" tag or "iframe" tag is
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                          • CheeseFrog
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                            #14
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                            • iwantchixx
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                              • Oct 2002
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by NichePay - StuartD
                              yes, 12px
                              12 px is smaller than 12pt

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                              • After Shock Media
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                                • Mar 2001
                                • 35299

                                #16
                                To avoid further confusion between print, web, and viewer resolutions. The DOJ in its infinate wisdom added this line "or no smaller than the second-largest typeface". So go no smaller than 12px or 13 if your real anal. Though odds are that will not be the second largest typeface anyways.

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                                • UnclePecker
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                                  • Jun 2004
                                  • 266

                                  #17
                                  Jees...
                                  Can you imagine someone sitting in federal court in front of a jury of their piers.
                                  The charge: Using a font size smaller than required by 2257
                                  Facing up to 25000.00 in fines and up to 10 years in prison.
                                  I just can't see this ever happening, sure hope not.

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                                  • Ycaza
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                                    • Feb 2005
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                                    #18
                                    LOL the right answer but?

                                    What is a letter press printer? I know, but, doe4s anyone else? I am from a long line of printing dudes and can totally back this guy. A letterpress guy has to know this shit. its dumb shit, but its totally necessary for "hot type" letter press guys.


                                    Originally posted by billywatson
                                    I know...how? I am a letterpress printer. This is an obsolete method of printing, and in order to understand points, you need to know what they are.

                                    In printer's terms, we measure in points and picas. Throw inches and the metric system out the window.

                                    There are 72 points in a inch. A 12 point typeface is standard size, so to speak...it's about the size of a letter printed in a book, or a newspaper.

                                    Of course none of this matters, as monitor settings render all this worthless.

                                    This is how much the DOJ knows about the interner and our business.
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                                    • nofx
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                                      • Nov 2002
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Cazually
                                      What is a letter press printer? I know, but, doe4s anyone else? I am from a long line of printing dudes and can totally back this guy. A letterpress guy has to know this shit. its dumb shit, but its totally necessary for "hot type" letter press guys.
                                      i have no clue what that is

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                                      • AdultNex
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                                        • Feb 2003
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                                        #20
                                        12pt is pretty big.

                                        I'm surprised they didn't want us to include a scrolling marquee with a 468x60 banner.

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                                        • 2257-Ben
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                                          • Jun 2005
                                          • 633

                                          #21
                                          12 point type is a term used in the printing industry.
                                          Go here for more information ...

                                          http://lists.evolt.org/archive/Week-...23/030716.html
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                                          • 2257-Ben
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                                            • Jun 2005
                                            • 633

                                            #22
                                            http://www.webstyleguide.com/type/index.html

                                            Here's another reference that may help to better explain it.
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                                            • 2257-Ben
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                                              • Jun 2005
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                                              #23
                                              and for those of you who might want a little bit more 'hand holding...'
                                              http://www.webstyleguide.com/type/size.html
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