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  • Doctor Dre
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jan 2001
    • 51692
    #151
    Originally posted by crockett
    that's the commerical that everyone has been talking about.. none of those guys served with Kerry .. the add is basicly a lie paid for by the republicians

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ans/index.html
    Bush admin ... playing a dirty campaing ? Don't surprise me at all
    Originally posted by rayadp05
    I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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      • ronbotx
        Registered User
        • Jan 2002
        • 1634
        #152
        Originally posted by yellowmenace
        INTERESTING ARTICLE ABOUT RETRACTION:


        http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...cism_of_kerry/
        The other side of the story:
        http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesui...unfit_aff.html

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          • tony299
            lurker
            • Aug 2002
            • 57021
            #153
            People that want to see Kerry fail and really work in our industry fucking amaze me. If W gets another fours years bad things are going to happen, period .

            John McCain who endorses the president said himself watched it on TV they did the same the thing to me in 2000. What fucking liberal lie is that? What did he have in common with Kerry he was running against W so dont tell me he has nothing to do with this. If the same thing happened with candiates running against Clinton there would been a call for his head.
            Last edited by tony286; 08-08-2004, 10:15 AM.

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              • Peaches
                Old broad
                • Oct 2002
                • 13933
                #154
                Originally posted by tony404
                People that want to see Kerry fail and really work in our industry fucking amaze me. If W gets another fours years bad things are going to happen, period .
                Do you HONESTLY think Kerry is going to be anymore less against porn than Bush is? You're fooling yourself if you think he's the savior you're making him out to be.

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                  • tony299
                    lurker
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 57021
                    #155
                    Originally posted by Peaches
                    Do you HONESTLY think Kerry is going to be anymore less against porn than Bush is? You're fooling yourself if you think he's the savior you're making him out to be.
                    No you are living in a fox induced dream its a fact the most porn prosecutions happen during Rep admins thats a fact not my opinion.Talk to Adam and EVe they spent a million dollars fights the doj during the Reagan years. 911 slowed Johnny A down, this is a man who paid to cover a statues tits. Democrats arent porn saviors but its not a big deal they have better things to do then go after what consenting adults want. Go read this dear and tell me how untrue it is. What doyou think they hired Bruce Taylor for. WAKE UP !

                    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bal...home-headlines
                    Last edited by tony286; 08-08-2004, 10:23 AM.

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                      • Peaches
                        Old broad
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 13933
                        #156
                        Originally posted by tony404
                        No you are living in a fox induced dream its a fact the most porn prosecutions happen during Rep admins thats a fact not my opinion. 911 slowed Johnny A down, this is a man who paid to cover a staues tits. Democrats arent porn saviors but tis not a big deal they have better things to do then go after what consenting adults want. Go read this dear and tell my how untrue it is. What do think they hired Bruce Taylor for. WAKE UP !

                        http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bal...home-headlines
                        You might want to ask the two largest adult internet sites which administration was in office when they were harassed by the FTC and forced to pay high legal bills and fines

                        And you really think if Kerry's elected he's going to say to the public "I have decided to stop the current investigations into obscenity and it won't be started up again while I'M in office!"?

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                          • ronbotx
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 1634
                            #157
                            Originally posted by dig420
                            Ronbotx, how many times do you have to get beat down before you admit you were wrong, that Bush and swiftvets are lying pieces of shit and you know it and that you're voting for them anyway?
                            Is God talking to you? Were YOU fucking there? How do you know beyond a shadow of a doubt what the real story is? Have you read the book(unreleased) in question and examined the allegations?. Perhaps you have an advanced copy?.

                            Some of us believe that is is Kerry who is liar , in the great tradition of Bill Clinton. Happily the criminals, hypocrites, scammers, spammers, and druggies on GFY are not deciding the presidential race, the American electorate will on November 2.
                            Last edited by ronbotx; 08-08-2004, 10:34 AM.

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                              • tony299
                                lurker
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 57021
                                #158
                                Originally posted by Peaches
                                You might want to ask the two largest adult internet sites which administration was in office when they were harassed by the FTC and forced to pay high legal bills and fines

                                And you really think if Kerry's elected he's going to say to the public "I have decided to stop the current investigations into obscenity and it won't be started up again while I'M in office!"?
                                Did you actually take the time to read the article ?

                                Obscenity cases came to a standstill under Janet Reno, President Bill Clinton's attorney general, who focused on child pornography, which is considered child abuse and comes under different criminal statutes. The ensuing years saw an explosion of porn, so much so that critics say that Americans' tolerance for sexually explicit material rivals that of Europeans.

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                                  • Peaches
                                    Old broad
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 13933
                                    #159
                                    Originally posted by tony404
                                    Did you actually take the time to read the article ?

                                    Obscenity cases came to a standstill under Janet Reno, President Bill Clinton's attorney general, who focused on child pornography, which is considered child abuse and comes under different criminal statutes. The ensuing years saw an explosion of porn, so much so that critics say that Americans' tolerance for sexually explicit material rivals that of Europeans.
                                    Yes, I read the article. I take your answer to my question is "Yes"?

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                                      • tony299
                                        lurker
                                        • Aug 2002
                                        • 57021
                                        #160
                                        Originally posted by Peaches
                                        Yes, I read the article. I take your answer to my question is "Yes"?
                                        The cases that are set in motion will be in motion but new ones wont start as quickly Bruce Taylor will go back into retirement. You are a smart woman so I know you know what I am talking about but pro bushies on the board and others I know in porn all use the same weak argument because they dont want to think about the truth that getting this guy back into office can send lots of thier friends into jail .

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                                          • lawked
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Apr 2003
                                            • 354
                                            #161
                                            Originally posted by Peaches
                                            Considering I made over six figures plus full benefits at my last corporate CS job, I'm not too worried

                                            Plus I'm studying real estate and I plan on doing a LOT of investing. You'd be amazed how good customer service skills help when you're talking to the good old boy investors at the court house steps picking up tax sales and foreclosures!
                                            I'd be surprised if your old job would still be available to you. There's probably 40 indians working your old job from India.

                                            Support Bush. I want the middle class america to suffer more and the deficit to fucking rise a few more hundred billions.

                                            God damn idiots thinking they get a tax break. Who's paying that debt in the coming years when someone responsible enough gets in? Go spend 10,000 on your visa and see what happens at the end of the month.... now do that on the Billion's scale.

                                            Pretty sad... Bush is pretty close to stealing another election.

                                            THREAD JACK!

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                                              • Centurion
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Dec 2002
                                                • 6033
                                                #162
                                                Originally posted by ronbotx
                                                This discussion is pointless.

                                                "The group was formed by a woman, a NON-VETERAN! Can't be any sort of inlfuence peddling here can there now!" = False
                                                Here is who runs the group.
                                                [{url]http://www.swiftvets.com/index.php?topic=AboutUs[/url]
                                                The only thing pointless is your attempt to make an issue out of something that never existed.

                                                You can tell when the right wing is scared to death about losing the election. They resort to the most outrageous idiotic attacks on the candidate from THIRTY years ago. Fuck, forget aobut talking about TODAY and TODAY'S issues & plans! Let's go MUCK about what may or may not have happened 30 years ago.

                                                And when I point out who STARTED this group, you say that is false and then to prove your point, you shift to "Here's who is RUNNING the group." Doesn't at all disprove who FOUNDED it!

                                                Your arguments are indeed very pointless.

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                                                  • Centurion
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                    • 6033
                                                    #163
                                                    Originally posted by ronbotx

                                                    2)If you follow the "razor sharp" logic of Centurion and others, then Jim Rassman, the Army Green Beret that Kerry fished out the water, and his primary endorser and the convention should be ignored. Why? , well he is not even in the Navy , NOR IS HE A MEMBER OF Kerry's boat crew. So by your own rules his opinion doesn't count.
                                                    So what you are doing is saying there is a high level conspiracy among the the men who did serve (notice: DID SERVE WITH KERRY ONBOARD) with Kerry onboard the boat to LIE about everything they have said.

                                                    Yet you've given no REASON WHY they would lie. What do they have to gain from this? You are just making things up just like the people who are in this ad and financing it. SHAME SHAME!

                                                    Again, you are pointless.

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                                                      • Centurion
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                        • 6033
                                                        #164
                                                        Originally posted by yellowmenace
                                                        INTERESTING ARTICLE ABOUT RETRACTION:


                                                        http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...cism_of_kerry/
                                                        They won't acknowledge this. They are like rabid dogs. Even when faced by the truth and the acknowledgement of one of the original vets protesting Kerry:

                                                        "But yesterday, a key figure in the anti-Kerry campaign, Kerry's former commanding officer, backed off one of the key contentions. Lieutenant Commander George Elliott said in an interview that he had made a ''terrible mistake" in signing an affidavit that suggests Kerry did not deserve the Silver Star -- one of the main allegations in the book. The affidavit was given to The Boston Globe by the anti-Kerry group to justify assertions in their ad and book."

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                                                          • 69pornlinks
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                            • 5560
                                                            #165
                                                            , people why dont' you cut out the middle man and write in sharon....at least your vote will going str8 to their 'master'
                                                            It IS what it IS

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                                                              • Centurion
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                • 6033
                                                                #166
                                                                Originally posted by Peaches
                                                                Do you HONESTLY think Kerry is going to be anymore less against porn than Bush is? You're fooling yourself if you think he's the savior you're making him out to be.
                                                                No one said he was a "savior"..but then again, he is not the CRUSADER that George (God wants me to be President) Bush and his Attorney General ASHOLE ("Dancing is sinful")is who want to remake this country in the image of the Religious Right!

                                                                Are you going to say that Bush is "porn friendly" then? Gimme a break!

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                                                                  • Centurion
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                    • 6033
                                                                    #167
                                                                    Originally posted by ronbotx
                                                                    Is God talking to you? Were YOU fucking there? How do you know beyond a shadow of a doubt what the real story is?
                                                                    Listen to the pot calling the kettle black here!

                                                                    All of your posts have SCREAMED "This is the TRUTH!. Swift Boat Veterans prove this!"

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                                                                      • mardigras
                                                                        Bon temps!
                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                        • 14194
                                                                        #168
                                                                        Originally posted by ronbotx
                                                                        http://www.drudgereport.com/kerrybo.htm
                                                                        https://<br /> http://failedmc.type..._kerry_qu.html
                                                                        Last edited by mardigras; 08-08-2004, 11:45 AM.
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                                                                          • Mutt
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                            • 34431
                                                                            #169
                                                                            have their been any polls since this SwiftVets controversy started? hurting Kerry?
                                                                            I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                                                                              • ronbotx
                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                • 1634
                                                                                #170
                                                                                Originally posted by Centurion
                                                                                Listen to the pot calling the kettle black here!

                                                                                All of your posts have SCREAMED "This is the TRUTH!. Swift Boat Veterans prove this!"
                                                                                You are an idiot.... Where did I say this. Unlike you, I don't know the whole story... Here is what I actually said, or would care to lie again....

                                                                                "This discussion is pointless.
                                                                                When it comes down to it , we have a boat crew saying one thing and his fellow officers and superiors saying another. You weren't there and I was not there. The book with all the details and the focus of this controversy is being published next week. It is going to play out in the media, kinda like the Bush/National Guard thing."

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                                                                                  • Mr.Fiction
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                                                    • 9484
                                                                                    #171
                                                                                    Originally posted by Peaches
                                                                                    Do you HONESTLY think Kerry is going to be anymore less against porn than Bush is? You're fooling yourself if you think he's the savior you're making him out to be.
                                                                                    You are obviously deluding yourself. Where do you live, somewhere in the South where they raise kids showing them pictures of Democrats and telling you they are the devil? If so, you need to get over that brainwashing and start looking at facts.

                                                                                    Talk to people like Larry Flynt who has spent years in jail because of conservative administrations.

                                                                                    Democrats are far better supporters of adult free speech than Republicans. That is not an opinion, it is a fact that is proved over and over again by statistics of prosecutions and investigations under Republicans and Democratic presidents.

                                                                                    You might not want to admit it, but you are undeniably wrong.

                                                                                    As far as the FTC, do you deny that some in the adult industry were using questionable credit card billing practices?

                                                                                    Do you approve of adult webmasters using questionable credit card billing methods?
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                                                                                      • latinasojourn
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                                        • 3191
                                                                                        #172
                                                                                        Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                        bad title of this thread - know facts before you get your strings pulled by the puppetmaster - ONE, count em, ONE of those vets actually was on Kerry's boat.

                                                                                        i'm open to hearing bad things about Kerry's time in Nam but from here it looks like his biggest crime was to make himself look more heroic than he was - uh....... the guy was on a river boat in the Mei Kong Delta - he was IN country, he was IN combat, what he was not was IN the United States safe as a kitten like the dumb drunk fratboy Bush.

                                                                                        Fletch has it pegged right I think - bunch of bitter old Republican vets who got pissed that Kerry came home and fought against the war.

                                                                                        again at it's worst you have a guy who served his country put his life on the line, did his patriotic duty fighting a war and then fighting against a war when he got home, gilded the lily of his wartime experience with a political future in his plans.

                                                                                        they call it a CHARACTER FLAW. if true it is. but what the fuck do you call it when you are such a pussy you get your old man to jump the line and hide you away in the Texas National Guard to avoid being drafted and serving your country? what do you call having your fucking drivers license suspended for endangering the lives of others driving drunk and high? what do you call it when you are the President of the United States and aren't ashamed to tell people God talks to you and you take your orders from him?

                                                                                        when it comes to character flaws there is a clear winner.
                                                                                        well said.

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                                                                                          • Centurion
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                                                            • 6033
                                                                                            #173
                                                                                            Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                            have their been any polls since this SwiftVets controversy started? hurting Kerry?
                                                                                            Koki Robinson from ABC News was on Bill Maher's "Real Time" on HBO friday night and she said ironically, everytime the subject of Vietnam is brought up in relation to John Kerry, his poll numbers go up!

                                                                                            And she and even arch conservative Bob Barr said that they think this whole ad campaign and group of veterans trying to tarnish Kerry's record will blow up in their face in the final analysis.

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                                                                                              • EviLSuperstaR
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • May 2004
                                                                                                • 804
                                                                                                #174
                                                                                                Originally posted by Peaches
                                                                                                I saw that site a few weeks ago. Yet another reason I won't be voting for him
                                                                                                Just another stupid moron that is easy to brainwash by lying republican propaganda

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                                                                                                  • Peaches
                                                                                                    Old broad
                                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                                    • 13933
                                                                                                    #175
                                                                                                    Originally posted by EviLSuperstaR
                                                                                                    Just another stupid moron that is easy to brainwash by lying republican propaganda
                                                                                                    Yet another stupid moron who didn't bother reading where I've said many times I'm neither a democrat nor a republican. Though if forced to make a choice, I'd side with the majority of the republicans since most dems want to take my money from me and give it others

                                                                                                    Seriously, I amazed by the "youngsters" here. Do you people not realize that there are not just two parties in politics?

                                                                                                    And out of curiosity, how many of you vote at the local level? Or you do you just show up every 4 years for the presidential elections, if that? Surely you're aware the LOCAL candidates are FAR MORE influential in passing laws than the president is??

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                                                                                                      • Mr.Fiction
                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                                                                        • 9484
                                                                                                        #176
                                                                                                        Originally posted by Peaches

                                                                                                        Surely you're aware the LOCAL candidates are FAR MORE influential in passing laws than the president is??
                                                                                                        That is bullshit on so many levels. The Supreme Court decides which laws are constitutional. The president nominates the Supreme Court.

                                                                                                        If you help Bush get elected, then you are responsible if another right wing justice tips the scales toward the 5/4 split which believes online porn should be illegal.

                                                                                                        Justice Scalia said recently that he believes that the entire online porn business can be banned without violating the consitution. That is called judicial activism and Bush supports it.

                                                                                                        You think the Democrats want to take your money? Someone is going to have to pay back all of the money that Bush is spending. Either you will have to do it, or your kids will. What kind of person wants to get a tax break so that the next generation can pay it back?

                                                                                                        If Democrats want your money, then Republicans want to take your freedom.

                                                                                                        If you prefer money to freedom, then by all means, support Bush.
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                                                                                                          • EviLSuperstaR
                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                            • May 2004
                                                                                                            • 804
                                                                                                            #177
                                                                                                            Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                                            bad title of this thread - know facts before you get your strings pulled by the puppetmaster - ONE, count em, ONE of those vets actually was on Kerry's boat.

                                                                                                            i'm open to hearing bad things about Kerry's time in Nam but from here it looks like his biggest crime was to make himself look more heroic than he was - uh....... the guy was on a river boat in the Mei Kong Delta - he was IN country, he was IN combat, what he was not was IN the United States safe as a kitten like the dumb drunk fratboy Bush.

                                                                                                            Fletch has it pegged right I think - bunch of bitter old Republican vets who got pissed that Kerry came home and fought against the war.

                                                                                                            again at it's worst you have a guy who served his country put his life on the line, did his patriotic duty fighting a war and then fighting against a war when he got home, gilded the lily of his wartime experience with a political future in his plans.

                                                                                                            they call it a CHARACTER FLAW. if true it is. but what the fuck do you call it when you are such a pussy you get your old man to jump the line and hide you away in the Texas National Guard to avoid being drafted and serving your country? what do you call having your fucking drivers license suspended for endangering the lives of others driving drunk and high? what do you call it when you are the President of the United States and aren't ashamed to tell people God talks to you and you take your orders from him?

                                                                                                            when it comes to character flaws there is a clear winner.
                                                                                                            VERY well said!

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                                                                                                              • dig420
                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                                                • 9240
                                                                                                                #178

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                                                                                                                  • dig420
                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                                                                    • 9240
                                                                                                                    #179

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                                                                                                                      • ronbotx
                                                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                        • 1634
                                                                                                                        #180
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Centurion
                                                                                                                        The only thing pointless is your attempt to make an issue out of something that never existed.

                                                                                                                        You can tell when the right wing is scared to death about losing the election. They resort to the most outrageous idiotic attacks on the candidate from THIRTY years ago. Fuck, forget aobut talking about TODAY and TODAY'S issues & plans! Let's go MUCK about what may or may not have happened 30 years ago.

                                                                                                                        And when I point out who STARTED this group, you say that is false and then to prove your point, you shift to "Here's who is RUNNING the group." Doesn't at all disprove who FOUNDED it!

                                                                                                                        Your arguments are indeed very pointless.
                                                                                                                        Besides twisting what I say, apparently you like to take things out of context and delete entire paragraphs..?

                                                                                                                        You left this out...

                                                                                                                        "You never provided a name of one of the Swiftvets who was in the anti McCain ad did you? You can't.
                                                                                                                        As I stated before *sigh* , Merrie Spaeth is their hired Media Consultant and nothing more. She did not found the group. Rear Admiral Hoffman and John O'Neill did. Spaeth has denied any connection to the MCCain ads. Even if she did have a connection, it is irrelevant. You are a parrot echoing the DNC party line."

                                                                                                                        *************************

                                                                                                                        And on your second point:

                                                                                                                        "You can tell when the right wing is scared to death about losing the election. They resort to the most outrageous idiotic attacks on the candidate from THIRTY years ago. Fuck, forget aobut talking about TODAY and TODAY'S issues & plans! Let's go MUCK about what may or may not have happened 30 years ago."

                                                                                                                        But who is it that during the Democratic Convention decided to ignore the last 20 years and dwell on his four months in Nam? What is Bush, The SwiftVets, Dick Cheney, or Mickey Mouse.... no it was Kerry.

                                                                                                                        Why:

                                                                                                                        Let me enlighten you yet again:

                                                                                                                        "Personally, I think a candidate should stand on his legislative record. In Kerry's case though, he wants us to forget his last twenty years of his anti-miltary, anti-defense, anti-intelligence, and pro-tax votes. He wants us to forget that he is the #1 liberal in the senate. He has magically transformed himself from a medal tossing, anti-war activist in the seventies with contempt for the miltary to a war hero in 2004 complete with Steven Spielberg video. Now that the cornerstone of his latest "recreation" is being questioned, he and his minions are in a panic."


                                                                                                                        __________________

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                                                                                                                          • lim_joe
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                                                                                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                            • 204
                                                                                                                            #181
                                                                                                                            well.. just think about BUSH where is the WMD????
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                                                                                                                              • dig420
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                                                                                                                                • May 2001
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                                                                                                                                #182
                                                                                                                                The funny thing about your posts, Ronsheep, is that you keep saying things like 'let me enlighten you' while you're totally ignoring facts thrust in your face over and over. Why don't you go do some reading instead of making everybody cut and paste the same shit over and over?

                                                                                                                                What's with you republicans and your weak reading comprehension?



                                                                                                                                I'm presenting these stats in graphical format, easier to understand for the conservatives and 'libertarians' in this thread
                                                                                                                                Last edited by dig420; 08-08-2004, 12:57 PM.

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                                                                                                                                  • lim_joe
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                                                                                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                    • 204
                                                                                                                                    #183
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by dig420
                                                                                                                                    make sense now ...
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                                                                                                                                      • sacX
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                                                                                                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                        • 2998
                                                                                                                                        #184
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Peaches
                                                                                                                                        You might want to ask the two largest adult internet sites which administration was in office when they were harassed by the FTC and forced to pay high legal bills and fines

                                                                                                                                        And you really think if Kerry's elected he's going to say to the public "I have decided to stop the current investigations into obscenity and it won't be started up again while I'M in office!"?
                                                                                                                                        well I take it your referring to MaxCash in one instance (Peaches and maxcash rings a bell for some reason).

                                                                                                                                        The problem they had with the FTC wasn't to do with obscenity it was to do with mousetrapping and dialers, was it not?
                                                                                                                                        Have Asian Language Traffic?

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                                                                                                                                          • KRL
                                                                                                                                            Entrepreneur
                                                                                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                            • 31429
                                                                                                                                            #185
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Peaches
                                                                                                                                            Do you HONESTLY think Kerry is going to be anymore less against porn than Bush is? You're fooling yourself if you think he's the savior you're making him out to be.
                                                                                                                                            Its a question of aggression Peaches. There is no way you can say this industry is safer with an ultra right wing admin like we have now vs. a more left to center admin like Kerry will be.

                                                                                                                                            I got nailed during when fucking Ed Meese,ran the DOJ, another right winger anti-porn to the extreme guy.

                                                                                                                                            So its true, you still will have things to be careful of, but they will be far less with the Democrats in power than the Republicans.

                                                                                                                                            Plus more important than anything are the Supreme Court nominations. Its absolutely critical to our civil liberties to get moderates in there.
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                                                                                                                                              • Peaches
                                                                                                                                                Old broad
                                                                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                • 13933
                                                                                                                                                #186
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                                                                Its a question of aggression Peaches. There is no way you can say this industry is safer with an ultra right wing admin like we have now vs. a more left to center admin like Kerry will be.

                                                                                                                                                I got nailed during when fucking Ed Meese,ran the DOJ, another right winger anti-porn to the extreme guy.

                                                                                                                                                So its true, you still will have things to be careful of, but they will be far less with the Democrats in power than the Republicans.

                                                                                                                                                Plus more important than anything are the Supreme Court nominations. Its absolutely critical to our civil liberties to get moderates in there.
                                                                                                                                                Personally, there are WAY too many things Kerry HAS SAID he will do if president that worry me just as much.

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                                                                                                                                                  • dig420
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                                                                                                                                                    • May 2001
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                                                                                                                                                      • tony299
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                                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2002
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                                                                                                                                                        #188
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                                                                        Its a question of aggression Peaches. There is no way you can say this industry is safer with an ultra right wing admin like we have now vs. a more left to center admin like Kerry will be.

                                                                                                                                                        I got nailed during when fucking Ed Meese,ran the DOJ, another right winger anti-porn to the extreme guy.

                                                                                                                                                        So its true, you still will have things to be careful of, but they will be far less with the Democrats in power than the Republicans.

                                                                                                                                                        Plus more important than anything are the Supreme Court nominations. Its absolutely critical to our civil liberties to get moderates in there.
                                                                                                                                                        Peaches : Personally, there are WAY too many things Kerry HAS SAID he will do if president that worry me just as much.

                                                                                                                                                        Isnt it funny you show her that this is truth not liberal bullshit and she changes the subject lol.

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                                                                                                                                                          • Peaches
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                                                                                                                                                            • Oct 2002
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                                                                                                                                                            #189
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                                                            Peaches : Personally, there are WAY too many things Kerry HAS SAID he will do if president that worry me just as much.

                                                                                                                                                            Isnt it funny you show her that this is truth not liberal bullshit and she changes the subject lol.
                                                                                                                                                            Where did I change the subject?

                                                                                                                                                            I do not agree with KRL. I was TRYING to be as diplomatic as possible w/o coming right out and saying it, but thanks for pushing me

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                                                                                                                                                              • tony299
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                                                                                                                                                                • Aug 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                #190
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by lawked
                                                                                                                                                                I'd be surprised if your old job would still be available to you. There's probably 40 indians working your old job from India.
                                                                                                                                                                Thats a good point also if you can make 6 figures in the mainstream world why be here if your strictly on the business side of the house . Selling some porn program or working for a fortune 500 or 1000 making 6 figures there is no thought lol.

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                                                                                                                                                                  • tony299
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                    #191
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Peaches
                                                                                                                                                                    Where did I change the subject?

                                                                                                                                                                    I do not agree with KRL. I was TRYING to be as diplomatic as possible w/o coming right out and saying it, but thanks for pushing me
                                                                                                                                                                    What is there not to agree with? He dealt with the DOJ under Meese are you saying he is lying?

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                                                                                                                                                                      • ronbotx
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                        #192
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by dig420

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                                                                                                                                                                          • Peaches
                                                                                                                                                                            Old broad
                                                                                                                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                            • 13933
                                                                                                                                                                            #193
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                                                                            What is there not to agree with? He dealt with the DOJ under Meese are you saying he is lying?


                                                                                                                                                                            Disagreeing with him is saying he's lying?

                                                                                                                                                                            In fact, since you DID accuse me of changing the subject , here's what he said that I disagree with and I responded to directly:

                                                                                                                                                                            So its true, you still will have things to be careful of, but they will be far less with the Democrats in power than the Republicans.

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                                                                                                                                                                              • tony299
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                                                                                                                                                                                • Aug 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                #194
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by ronbotx
                                                                                                                                                                                The funny thing if some democratic group and it was Bush who had been in Vietnam. .They would be calling for blood and saying how unpatriotic the democratics are and how they have no repsect for the men and women in uniform.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Peaches
                                                                                                                                                                                    Old broad
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 13933
                                                                                                                                                                                    #195
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                                                                                    Thats a good point also if you can make 6 figures in the mainstream world why be here if your strictly on the business side of the house . Selling some porn program or working for a fortune 500 or 1000 making 6 figures there is no thought lol.
                                                                                                                                                                                    I can assure you've I've made more in porn than I did in mainstream and as I said, porn is less than half of my income currently (which, admittedly, has only been in the past few months).

                                                                                                                                                                                    I started working in porn so I could work at home and I ended up making more than I was making in the corporate world. It was a win/win situation. Heck, at first I making LESS than I was in the corporate world, but I hated spending hours getting to and from work, I hated wearing a suit every day, I hated going to useless meetings, I hated asking for time off when I had a migraine, hehehe.

                                                                                                                                                                                    I don't do it because I love pornography nor do I plan on it being a lifelong career.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Right now it's easy money When that changes, so will I

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Centurion
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                        #196
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by ronbotx

                                                                                                                                                                                        "Personally, I think a candidate should stand on his legislative record. In Kerry's case though, he wants us to forget his last twenty years of his anti-miltary, anti-defense, anti-intelligence, and pro-tax votes. He wants us to forget that he is the #1 liberal in the senate. He has magically transformed himself from a medal tossing, anti-war activist in the seventies with contempt for the miltary to a war hero in 2004 complete with Steven Spielberg video. Now that the cornerstone of his latest "recreation" is being questioned, he and his minions are in a panic."


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                                                                                                                                                                                        You are walking oxymoron.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Above you say we should concentrate on a person's legislative
                                                                                                                                                                                        record, but you even started off on the Swift Boat situation and continue down that road.

                                                                                                                                                                                        And I'm fucking GLAD he's a liberal..looks what a "conservative" has given us in the last 4 years. Want to talk about just records then..fine, I'll compare Kerry's last 4 to Bush's anytime!

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Centurion
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                            #197
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Peaches
                                                                                                                                                                                            Personally, there are WAY too many things Kerry HAS SAID he will do if president that worry me just as much.
                                                                                                                                                                                            Like what in regards to the adult industry?

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • tony299
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Aug 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                                #198
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Peaches
                                                                                                                                                                                                I can assure you've I've made more in porn than I did in mainstream
                                                                                                                                                                                                Cool then become my wifes mentor

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Peaches
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Old broad
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Oct 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    #199
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Centurion
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Like what in regards to the adult industry?
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I have a lot more in my life besides this one industry, lol!

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Three things that come to mind right off the bat:

                                                                                                                                                                                                    National Heathcare

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Passing laws to prohibit companies from being more profitable by outsourcing jobs, which, BTW, WOULD include the adult industry.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Spending more money on schools when it's clear money is not the answer
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Last edited by Peaches; 08-08-2004, 03:00 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Mr.Fiction
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Feb 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        #200
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Peaches

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Spending more money on schools when it's clear money is not the answer
                                                                                                                                                                                                        You are truly brainwashed.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        You have already admitted that you support money over freedom and now you say you don't want more money in the education system.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        How can you possibly say that more money won't help when class sizes are huge and the only solution to that is more teachers?

                                                                                                                                                                                                        One of your problems with Kerry is that he wants children to get a better education.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        You are against freedom and education but for money in your pocket that your kids will have to pay back. You do sound like a perfect Republican.
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