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Why are only FSC members protected? 2257

06-23-2005, 02:12 PM

Just out of curiousity...

Why is it that the injunction only protects FSC members?

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06-23-2005, 02:13 PM

Why restaurant owners who pay protection money have no problems?
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06-23-2005, 02:14 PM

I guess Roe vs Wade should have only made abortions legal for the parties involved, too, lolol.

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06-23-2005, 02:14 PM

Because there wasn't an injunction, there was a deal reached between the two parties.

I'm guessing the DOJ went for the deal so they'd still have the right to prosecute other people who aren't members of the class action suit.

Now quit whining and go pay your $300 to join the FSC.

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06-23-2005, 02:15 PM

But seriously, I wonder how they intend to handle expired memberships and new ones...will the "master list" be up to date?

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06-23-2005, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by Lenny2

Because there wasn't an injunction, there was a deal reached between the two parties.

I'm guessing the DOJ went for the deal so they'd still have the right to prosecute other people who aren't members of the class action suit.

Now quit whining and go pay your $300 to join the FSC.

Wanna make a deal? My ass for your money, lol

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06-23-2005, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by chase

Wanna make a deal? My ass for your money, lol

Well I want ALL of your ass but you can't have ALL of my money

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06-23-2005, 02:19 PM

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Well I want ALL of your ass but you can't have ALL of my money

Hey now, I get some of that ass too.

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06-23-2005, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by Lenny2

Well I want ALL of your ass but you can't have ALL of my money

I don't need it all, just $300 apparently, haha!

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06-23-2005, 02:21 PM

How about we form a new Coalition, with no dues, and make a deal with the DOJ> What's the difference?
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06-23-2005, 02:26 PM

Plus the FSC website isn't all that clear on the type of memberships available

Lets say that "website/webmaster" designation

Lets say I have 10 websites
Thats 300x10 according to a line item on their join form.

What if one or two or three of those 10 is sorta the ones to be concerned about.

Now its gonna be 2x300?? 3x300?

But I really have 10, Do I now lie to them??

I'm thinking hardly anyone has just "one" website around here

What does 50.00 get you, just the right to say you contributed but no protection?

More clarity is needed there..
If they're swamped, that's a bad excuse too
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06-23-2005, 02:38 PM

If you go to the FSC's membership application page:

http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/application.php

and click on the "individual" catagory radio button;

you will see that an unincorporated webmaster's dues are $300 per year.

If you are incorporated and click on the "corporate" radio button, then the dues are $300/per site for the corporation.
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06-23-2005, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by Redrob

If you go to the FSC's membership application page:

http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/application.php

and click on the "individual" catagory radio button;

you will see that an unincorporated webmaster's dues are $300 per year.

If you are incorporated and click on the "corporate" radio button, then the dues are $300/per site for the corporation.

Actually we called yesterday because we couldn't get the fax to work.

we were going to pay $300 to join as webmasters and the girl on the phone said wait....if your annual sales are below a certain threshhold you can join for less....as little as $50.

Our sales put us in the $300 category though so it came out the same. But they're definitely not trying to squeeze every dime out of you either.

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06-23-2005, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by ChefJeff

How about we form a new Coalition, with no dues, and make a deal with the DOJ> What's the difference?

This new "Coalition" would need lawyers. How would you get lawyers with no $$?

I'm just a newbie.
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06-23-2005, 03:04 PM

I'm simply trying to make a point. I dont actually have any ambition of putting together a coalition and hire an attorney. Unless he's cheap.
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06-23-2005, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by ChefJeff

Just out of curiousity...

Why is it that the injunction only protects FSC members?

http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...tent_ID=231539

The FSC is a trade organization, not a civil liberties union. Trade orgs look after the interests of their membership.

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06-23-2005, 04:06 PM

Let the DOJ go against one of the sites that is not a member of the FSC. See what happens to the FSC when that person wins a suit against them and the judge.

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06-23-2005, 04:24 PM

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06-23-2005, 04:31 PM

Most likely a deal was reach way before the June 23rd. The DOJ has been talking to the FSC way before.....

Hopefully, the FSC insider has good connections.

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06-23-2005, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by pornguy

Let the DOJ go against one of the sites that is not a member of the FSC. See what happens to the FSC when that person wins a suit against them and the judge.

Will this person file his million dollar lawsuit against the government before or after he goes to jail because he couldn't afford $300 to join FSC?

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06-23-2005, 04:45 PM

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06-23-2005, 04:51 PM

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Why restaurant owners who pay protection money have no problems?

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06-23-2005, 04:59 PM

Wish i ran the FSC right now, be makin hella bank $$.
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06-23-2005, 05:02 PM

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This new "Coalition" would need lawyers. How would you get lawyers with no $$?

Just use the folks that have been on "The Surreal World!"
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06-23-2005, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by Far-L

The FSC is a trade organization, not a civil liberties union. Trade orgs look after the interests of their membership.

For a "trade" organization, I find the name free speech COALITION interesting.
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06-23-2005, 05:05 PM

Why is this so hard to understand

1. The lawsuit was filed by a few individuals and the Free Speech Coalition for it's members. They are the people covered by the agreement.

2. The law is still the law and has been the law since the last century.

3. The new regulations still apply for EVERYONE, all that is delayed are inspections for the protected class.

4. If you a member of the protected class use the time to get your records in order because unless a permanent injunction is granted they can come and enforce the law in the future.

If you are not willing to participate in the law suit you can file your own or quit complaining about paying for less than one hour of an attorney's time.
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06-23-2005, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by Centurion

For a "trade" organization, I find the name free speech COALITION interesting.

There are a lot of business "coalition" trade groups. Look around.

What do you find interesting?

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06-23-2005, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

There are a lot of business "coalition" trade groups. Look around.

What do you find interesting?

Just because traditionally a "coalition" by it's definition means members of varying groups.
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06-23-2005, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by Centurion

Just because traditionally a "coalition" by it's definition means members of varying groups.

FSC is webmasters, store owners, video producers, lawyers, etc.

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06-23-2005, 05:41 PM

same reason acacia still hammered people for lic money..

DOJ can still prosecute others or at lest file against people... look like there fighting the big bad CP porn peddlers win public opinion then blame 'technicalities' on loosing the case when the FSC wins the case...

they look good tell the rug it pulled out from under them... kinda like one of those 'looks good on your resume' jobs...
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06-23-2005, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by ChefJeff

Just out of curiousity...

Why is it that the injunction only protects FSC members?

http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...tent_ID=231539

Why should a few pay to protect everyone? Join and be pro active
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06-23-2005, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by Probono

Why is this so hard to understand

1. The lawsuit was filed by a few individuals and the Free Speech Coalition for it's members. They are the people covered by the agreement.

2. The law is still the law and has been the law since the last century.

3. The new regulations still apply for EVERYONE, all that is delayed are inspections for the protected class.

4. If you a member of the protected class use the time to get your records in order because unless a permanent injunction is granted they can come and enforce the law in the future.

If you are not willing to participate in the law suit you can file your own or quit complaining about paying for less than one hour of an attorney's time.
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06-24-2005, 07:29 AM

Why should I jolin the FSC if I'm already compliant?
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06-24-2005, 07:30 AM

I joined to support the people fighting the good fight, not because I felt pressured or anything.

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06-24-2005, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

Will this person file his million dollar lawsuit against the government before or after he goes to jail because he couldn't afford $300 to join FSC?

That is not the issue. When and if NON FSC members start getting prosecuted under this new legislation the FSCs case will become weaker and weaker.

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06-24-2005, 07:44 AM

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06-24-2005, 07:49 AM

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