It's really getting pretty sad that women can't even go to a show these days without getting molested. And it seems to be happening more and more often as times goes on.
Here's a thought. All the big programs are always giving out things to the webmasters, whether it's t-shirts, or hoodies, cups, pens, etc. Well why doesn't a program (or TWO!) give something a little extra to the women who go to the shows. I just did a quick little check on Google and there are plenty of companies that can wholesale and even put custom logos on PEPPER SPRAY!!!
Ok, while I understand what you are trying to accomplish, I'm sure no one is going to sponsor free WEAPONS at a drunken webmaster convention. That is a lawsuit waiting to happen! Our models deal with the same groping, etc at shows, we usually solve the problem by not leaving them unescorted. When there is a problem, the offending convention-goer is first given an "educational" warning, and on 2nd offense I've seen people kicked in the nuts, poked in the eye, or slapped into a wall. There are MANY stand up people usually hanging around that are happy to help out any woman in distress.
Ok, while I understand what you are trying to accomplish, I'm sure no one is going to sponsor free WEAPONS at a drunken webmaster convention. That is a lawsuit waiting to happen! Our models deal with the same groping, etc at shows, we usually solve the problem by not leaving them unescorted. When there is a problem, the offending convention-goer is first given an "educational" warning, and on 2nd offense I've seen people kicked in the nuts, poked in the eye, or slapped into a wall. There are MANY stand up people usually hanging around that are happy to help out any woman in distress.
Steve Lightspeed
You gotta remember that I'm a Texan. If we had any major shows HERE I would have suggested something more appropriate for the situation. Like...
The LightSpeed edition, .50AE Desert Eagle Mark XIX, 6-Inch Barrel, Black Oxide
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I don't get it... you get out of control on a message board, you get banned.
You drink and drive, you lose your license.
So if someone gets drunk and gets out of control at an industry event, I propose that they be banned from future events... either permanently or temporarily.... like a year (as with losing a driver's license).
It's not fair that someone can do what has happened with Arika, Vanilla and the other girls, and the guy just goes back to work and then the next convention as if nothing happened.... all the while saying "hey, I was drunk... I can't be held responsible."
If you did that same thing at a non-porn related trade show or convention, you'd be walking out in cuffs, much less kicked out, much less banned from the next one.
What do we do? "Hey, it's porn... just because a woman is naked on her website, doesn't mean you should grope her... bad!"
That just doesn't cut it.
Now Arika, as well as other girls need to go to the next show and wonder.... will it happen here too?
Well, they can't be spared from all of the creeps, but perhaps they should be spared from having to see the creep that did it last time.
Note to self : Start sending more traffic to LightSpeed just in case Steve sends Sweetums her own Desert Eagle!!!
Start sending more traffic to LightspeedCash just 'cause it ROCKS
I'm a pussycat at heart...but I won't tolerate being disrespected. Fortunately, I've always worked with people who didn't tolerate that either....the nut-kicking strategy was actually Steve's suggestion ;)
It's disgusting and unfortunately you can't ban someone, but kicking the shit out of someone could easily put a stop to it. The first year Cybernet did the show in San Diego, I was with a ton of people at the Players Ball on the patio. This dude grabed my boob (he is an industry photograper, but I have no idea who he is) and I put a lit cigarette out on his tattoo, there were people wanting to smack him out but I figured the humiliation plus the burn mark were sufficient enough. It's sad that these industry girls have these freackin leeches clinging to them at the shows. There is simply no excuse. Regardless if she does solo girl, gg or hardcore double anal gangbang, nobody has a right to lay a finger on them! I agree with the Pepper Spray post...Idiots~
in this post not going on eather side of the issue. But what makes you think that " unfortunately you can't ban someone," umm this is not some public thing run buy the goverment, they sure can ban some one.
Any of you people ever visit a message board called "Go Fuck Yourself"? It's a place "where the industry meets" to talk about women as pieces of meat and where being insulting and aggressive is regarded as an effective marketing tactic. It's a place where a bit of third-rate drama runs to more posts and views than a discussion about major changes affecting the industry.
So boards like GFY are just that: boards. No-one gets hurt and you aren't supposed to take them too seriously. But 365 days a year, they are setting the tone for our industry. Is it surprising if all that starts to spill over into real life?
Or maybe we are just kidding ourselves anyway and the tone of the boards comes from real life and not the other way around? Plenty of the people in this thread apparently think that violence is an appropriate response to a drunk getting out of hand. That's pretty much the way it is at the bar just up the road from here, but then who looks to red-neck bars in small mid-west towns to define acceptable standards of behavior?
Behaviour generally comes in a package. Not everyone with a foul mouth has a potential for violence. And not everyone who can be violent doesn't know - drunk or sober - how to treat women with some respect. But if some aspects of antisocial behaviour are considered acceptable, even cool, get a crowd together and you had better expect the others to appear sooner or later. Sooner, when you add alcohol to the mix...
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