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  • theking
    Nice Kitty
    • Sep 2002
    • 21053

    #1

    Senator Kerry's speech

    ...

    "Let there be no mistake: I will never hesitate to use force when it is required. Any attack will be met with a swift and certain response. I will never give any nation or international institution a veto over our national security. And I will build a stronger American military."

    "We will double our special forces to conduct anti-terrorist operations. We will provide our troops with the newest weapons and technology to save their lives and win the battle."

    Though his voting record somewhat belies these statements he at least is talking the talk that I approve. I will await what takes place over the next 3 months or so before I make a final decision about voting for Senator Kerry. It is still possible that...for the first time since I have been of voting age...I may abstain this next election.
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  • zanycash Pete
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    • Jun 2004
    • 1023

    #2
    He sure sounded good tonight!

    But will he deliver

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    • Ironhorse
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      • Nov 2002
      • 7094

      #3
      Was a good speech, the dems have a good shot at it, I didn't think much of Kerry initially, but tonights production was very good, actually the whole convention seemed very successful.
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      • jeffs
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        • Oct 2002
        • 135

        #4
        Originally posted by theking
        ...

        "We will double our special forces to conduct anti-terrorist operations. We will provide our troops with the newest weapons and technology to save their lives and win the battle."
        He actually stumbled there and initially said, "to conduct terrorist", but quickly corrected himself. I thought that was funny.

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        • TheJimmy
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          • Jan 2001
          • 10747

          #5
          Originally posted by jeffs
          He actually stumbled there and initially said, "to conduct terrorist", but quickly corrected himself. I thought that was funny.

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          • theking
            Nice Kitty
            • Sep 2002
            • 21053

            #6
            Originally posted by TheJimmy
            one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter...
            I for one do not believe that al Qaeda and their affiliates are fighting for freedom.
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            • born
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              • Oct 2001
              • 588

              #7
              Happy I missed it.....

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              • CaroMark
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                • Sep 2002
                • 1357

                #8
                Originally posted by theking
                Though his voting record somewhat belies these statements he at least is talking the talk that I approve. I will await what takes place over the next 3 months or so before I make a final decision about voting for Senator Kerry. It is still possible that...for the first time since I have been of voting age...I may abstain this next election.
                It is terrible to say but I think that the vote for the lesser evil is better than no vote at all.

                It amazes me how many people want to ignore his voting record and just believe that he is a new man. Although I do agree that he delivered an awesome speech I laughed at his attempts to make Republican ideas his own while at the same time not mentioning how he plans to fund all of his great programs.
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                • Evil Chris
                  OG
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 13249

                  #9
                  Originally posted by theking
                  It is still possible that...for the first time since I have been of voting age...I may abstain this next election.
                  Abstaining is NEVER the right thing to do.


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                  • theking
                    Nice Kitty
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 21053

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Evil Chris
                    Abstaining is NEVER the right thing to do.
                    Care to educate me by explaining your opinion?
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                    • Evil Chris
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                      • Dec 2001
                      • 13249

                      #11
                      Well what good does it do? Government actually depends on a large number of the voting population to NOT come out and vote.

                      Nobody cares if you do not vote. If it's like trying to make a statement or something, it has me baffled. If you can't vote FOR something, then definitely vote AGAINST something. The important thing is to cast that ballot.


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                      • theking
                        Nice Kitty
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 21053

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Evil Chris
                        Well what good does it do? Government actually depends on a large number of the voting population to NOT come out and vote.

                        Nobody cares if you do not vote. If it's like trying to make a statement or something, it has me baffled. If you can't vote FOR something, then definitely vote AGAINST something. The important thing is to cast that ballot.
                        Educate me further by explaining why you are of the opinion that "Government actually depends on a large number of the voting population to NOT come out and vote."

                        As for voting for or against something...if one is equally opposed to both candidates...how can one retain their own self respect by putting a stamp of approval on either of the candidates?
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                        • jimmyf
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                          • Feb 2001
                          • 12651

                          #13
                          Originally posted by MMemmer


                          It amazes me how many people want to ignore his voting record and just believe that he is a new man. Although I do agree that he delivered an awesome speech I laughed at his attempts to make Republican ideas his own while at the same time not mentioning how he plans to fund all of his great programs.
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                          • Evil Chris
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                            • Dec 2001
                            • 13249

                            #14
                            Originally posted by theking
                            Educate me further by explaining why you are of the opinion that "Government actually depends on a large number of the voting population to NOT come out and vote."

                            As for voting for or against something...if one is equally opposed to both candidates...how can one retain their own self respect by putting a stamp of approval on either of the candidates?
                            I'm not trying to prod you into an argument here, let me just say that, ok?

                            But yes I do believe that government depends somewhat on people's laziness or complacency in that they do not go out and vote. I'm not saying to put your stamp of approval on one or the other, but certainly vote against the lesser of two evils if you have to.


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                            • theking
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                              • Sep 2002
                              • 21053

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Evil Chris
                              I'm not trying to prod you into an argument here, let me just say that, ok?

                              But yes I do believe that government depends somewhat on people's laziness or complacency in that they do not go out and vote. I'm not saying to put your stamp of approval on one or the other, but certainly vote against the lesser of two evils if you have to.
                              If over the next 3 months I conclude that there probably is a "lesser" I will vote.
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                              • Mr.Fiction
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                                • Feb 2002
                                • 9484

                                #16
                                Originally posted by MMemmer


                                It amazes me how many people want to ignore his voting record and just believe that he is a new man. Although I do agree that he delivered an awesome speech I laughed at his attempts to make Republican ideas his own while at the same time not mentioning how he plans to fund all of his great programs.
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                                • xclusive
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                                  • Apr 2004
                                  • 35218

                                  #17
                                  Kerry did very well and I am from massachusetts and I met the guy a few times. He looks a little stiff when it comes to speaking but unlike bush he is smart and he knows about war and I know he will make a geat president that will make the whole world know that we are a superpower again and not just a Nation Run by a bunch of romper room rejects...

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                                  • The Truth Hurts
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                                    • Nov 2002
                                    • 15796

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by xclusive
                                    Kerry did very well and I am from massachusetts and I met the guy a few times. He looks a little stiff when it comes to speaking but unlike bush he is smart and he knows about war and I know he will make a geat president that will make the whole world know that we are a superpower again and not just a Nation Run by a bunch of romper room rejects...
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                                    • Rich
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                                      • Jan 2003
                                      • 11486

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by theking
                                      I for one do not believe that al Qaeda and their affiliates are fighting for freedom.
                                      Ronald Reagan did. I'd say his point stands.

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                                      • Floridiot
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                                        • Nov 2003
                                        • 1346

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Rich
                                        Ronald Reagan did. I'd say his point stands.
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                                        • theking
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                                          • Sep 2002
                                          • 21053

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Rich
                                          Ronald Reagan did. I'd say his point stands.
                                          Wrong. al Qaeda did not exist at that time.
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                                          • theking
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                                            • Sep 2002
                                            • 21053

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Rich
                                            Ronald Reagan did. I'd say his point stands.
                                            Hit and run mis-information...but you are full of mis-information...Richy boy. To bad those voices in your head are not better informed.
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                                            • raymor
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                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 3745

                                              #23
                                              Sure, a nice speech. He did stay on one consistent theme
                                              that tied the whole thing together. For example:

                                              "Let there be no mistake: I will never hesitate to use force when it is required."
                                              (Unlike what I did in the senate, where I voted against
                                              every military expenditure and every military action.
                                              Do not be confusd about Iraq, "I was really voting just to
                                              THREATEN the use of force. I did not vote to use force.'

                                              "Any attack will be met with a swift and certain response. "
                                              ((Unlike what I did in the senate, where I advocated waiting
                                              an additional 12 years, felling that 12 years wasn't long enough
                                              to wait for Saddam to comply.)

                                              "I will never give any nation or international institution a veto over our national security."
                                              (Unlike what I did in the senate, where I argued that our sovereignty
                                              should be subject to the UN.)

                                              "And I will build a stronger American military."
                                              (Unlike what I did in the senate, where I voted against
                                              body armor, fuel, ammo, and other necesities for our troops.)

                                              "We will provide our troops with the newest weapons and technology to save their lives and win the battle."
                                              (Unlike in the Senate, where I voted to not provide ammo for the
                                              existing weapons, much less new weapons.)

                                              "We will double our special forces to conduct anti-terrorist operations."
                                              (Unlike what I did in the Senate ....

                                              I'm actually suprised that he stayed consistent during the course of
                                              a whole entire speech, he normally sways from side to side in the
                                              course of a sentence. However, given that the one consistent point
                                              he had was that he promises to do the exactly the opposite of
                                              what he's always done his whole life, I'm not too sure how much stock
                                              I'd put in those promises.
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                                              • baddog
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                                                • Apr 2001
                                                • 107089

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by jeffs
                                                He actually stumbled there and initially said, "to conduct terrorist", but quickly corrected himself. I thought that was funny.
                                                did he slip?

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                                                • raymor
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                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 3745

                                                  #25
                                                  Actually though, why can't he stand up there,
                                                  admit what he really believes, what he's done in the past, and defend
                                                  his position instead of trying to convince people that he is the
                                                  opposite of who he is? Oh yeah, he can't defend any of the positions
                                                  that he has taken because they are indefensible.
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                                                  • NichePay_Manny
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                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                    • 1833

                                                    #26
                                                    Kerry is the Man .Vote for him guys.we have a better chance to make money will he is on board.

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                                                    • theking
                                                      Nice Kitty
                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                      • 21053

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by raymor
                                                      Sure, a nice speech. He did stay on one consistent theme
                                                      that tied the whole thing together. For example:

                                                      "Let there be no mistake: I will never hesitate to use force when it is required."
                                                      (Unlike what I did in the senate, where I voted against
                                                      every military expenditure and every military action.
                                                      Do not be confusd about Iraq, "I was really voting just to
                                                      THREATEN the use of force. I did not vote to use force.'

                                                      "Any attack will be met with a swift and certain response. "
                                                      ((Unlike what I did in the senate, where I advocated waiting
                                                      an additional 12 years, felling that 12 years wasn't long enough
                                                      to wait for Saddam to comply.)

                                                      "I will never give any nation or international institution a veto over our national security."
                                                      (Unlike what I did in the senate, where I argued that our sovereignty
                                                      should be subject to the UN.)

                                                      "And I will build a stronger American military."
                                                      (Unlike what I did in the senate, where I voted against
                                                      body armor, fuel, ammo, and other necesities for our troops.)

                                                      "We will provide our troops with the newest weapons and technology to save their lives and win the battle."
                                                      (Unlike in the Senate, where I voted to not provide ammo for the
                                                      existing weapons, much less new weapons.)

                                                      "We will double our special forces to conduct anti-terrorist operations."
                                                      (Unlike what I did in the Senate ....

                                                      I'm actually suprised that he stayed consistent during the course of
                                                      a whole entire speech, he normally sways from side to side in the
                                                      course of a sentence. However, given that the one consistent point
                                                      he had was that he promises to do the exactly the opposite of
                                                      what he's always done his whole life, I'm not too sure how much stock
                                                      I'd put in those promises.
                                                      An apparent concern of mine.
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