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crockett · 06-07-2005, 10:28 AM

I have a appointment set up to talk to a lawyer about the 2257 issues.

I have a pretty good handel on whats needed but I'm still unclear on this part as what "is" considered sexually explicit . In the original 2257 it was outlined by 2256..

from 2256
2) ?sexually explicit conduct? means actual or simulated?
(A) sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex;
(B) bestiality;
(C) masturbation;
(D) sadistic or masochistic abuse; or
(E) lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person;

Well it was brought to my attention in the lightspeed 2257 thread, that this was changed in the new 2257.

To be exact my question is about section {H} of the new 2257
(h) As used in this section?
(1) the term ?actual sexually explicit conduct? means actual but not simulated conduct as defined in subparagraphs (A) through (D) of paragraph (2) of section 2256 of this title;

So it seems section E is no longer relevant in the new 2257 requirements. (lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person).

Of course I'm going to be talking to my lawyer on this, but IMO that is going to allow full nudes as long as there is no touching of the genital areas. So in theory as long as there is no penetration that means there should be no 2257 documents required right? I'm even talking this as the girl can be grabbing her tits as being exempt from the 2257.

But in theory if the sites are fully softcore with no penetration it seems there is no need for any 2257 info at all.

Your thoughts? Anyone care to share what their lawyers comments are on this subject?

06-07-2005, 10:28 AM
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	lawyer talk 2257 I have a appointment set up to talk to a lawyer about the 2257 issues. I have a pretty good handel on whats needed but I'm still unclear on this part as what "is" considered sexually explicit . In the original 2257 it was outlined by 2256.. from 2256 2) ?sexually explicit conduct? means actual or simulated? (A) sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex; (B) bestiality; (C) masturbation; (D) sadistic or masochistic abuse; or (E) lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person; Well it was brought to my attention in the lightspeed 2257 thread, that this was changed in the new 2257. To be exact my question is about section {H} of the new 2257 (h) As used in this section? (1) the term ?actual sexually explicit conduct? means actual but not simulated conduct as defined in subparagraphs (A) through (D) of paragraph (2) of section 2256 of this title; So it seems section E is no longer relevant in the new 2257 requirements. (lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person). Of course I'm going to be talking to my lawyer on this, but IMO that is going to allow full nudes as long as there is no touching of the genital areas. So in theory as long as there is no penetration that means there should be no 2257 documents required right? I'm even talking this as the girl can be grabbing her tits as being exempt from the 2257. But in theory if the sites are fully softcore with no penetration it seems there is no need for any 2257 info at all. Your thoughts? Anyone care to share what their lawyers comments are on this subject? __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.