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07-26-2004, 11:16 AM

If so you might want to find a new place to spend your vote this election.

Kerry's platform on www.foxnews.com (Interactive link and proceed) is to raise taxes for people making over $200k a year, while cutting taxes for the remaining people - basically continuing Bushes cuts for the middle class, and raising taxes for the rich. If he had it straight, he could cut taxes for _everyone_ and be alright.

The rich already pay 50% of all taxes in America (Something like the top 3% of earners pay 50% of all taxes)

So, anyone here that likes to enjoy your money, might want to consider this.

Also, raising minimum wage so all the deadbeats cna stay at their deadend job and never try and better themselves. This will also put strain on 60% of all small businesses, preventing them from expanding, and some will even c lose their doors, giving more business to the corporation that libs already hate.

The guy needs a better policy.

I am voting for neither Kerry nor Bush, because neither of them have a policy on Borders, Language, and Culture. I am tired of reading everything in Spanish, hearing spanish, blah blah blah.

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07-26-2004, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by Carlito
If so you might want to find a new place to spend your vote this election.

Kerry's platform on www.foxnews.com (Interactive link and proceed) is to raise taxes for people making over $200k a year, while cutting taxes for the remaining people - basically continuing Bushes cuts for the middle class, and raising taxes for the rich. If he had it straight, he could cut taxes for _everyone_ and be alright.

The rich already pay 50% of all taxes in America (Something like the top 3% of earners pay 50% of all taxes)

So, anyone here that likes to enjoy your money, might want to consider this.

Also, raising minimum wage so all the deadbeats cna stay at their deadend job and never try and better themselves. This will also put strain on 60% of all small businesses, preventing them from expanding, and some will even c lose their doors, giving more business to the corporation that libs already hate.

The guy needs a better policy.

I am voting for neither Kerry nor Bush, because neither of them have a policy on Borders, Language, and Culture. I am tired of reading everything in Spanish, hearing spanish, blah blah blah.

Ah, greed. Gotta love it. The top 3% probably own 95% of the money, so where's the problem?
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07-26-2004, 11:24 AM

Paying taxes is part of being an American and supporting America.

Do you think that soldiers, firemen, police officers, and all of the others work for free?

Do you support our troops or not?

Taxes are going to have to go up because Bush has wasted so much money in the last three years on a war for oil and other bullshit.

When a Republican is in office, they waste huge amounts of money, then a Democrat has to come into office and clean up all of the mess that the Republicans made.

That's the way it works.

If you don't want to pay more taxes, stop electing idiots like Bush who spend like crazy.

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07-26-2004, 11:25 AM

Rich people don't pay taxes..
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07-26-2004, 11:25 AM

y should poor people have to pay the same taxes as the rich?

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07-26-2004, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by EviLGuY
Rich people don't pay taxes..

This is very true.

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07-26-2004, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by Carlito
I am tired of reading everything in Spanish, hearing spanish, blah blah blah.

Interestingly enough you call yourself Carlito .. Hookay

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07-26-2004, 11:30 AM

Also, raising minimum wage so all the deadbeats cna stay at their deadend job and never try and better themselves. This will also put strain on 60% of all small businesses, preventing them from expanding, and some will even c lose their doors, giving more business to the corporation that libs already hate.

What a statement.

Where do reps get their statistics from? How exactly will it prevent 60% of small businesses from expanding? 60, maybe 70 and definitely not 50?

What about the corporations that libs hate? Will they pay more taxes if we vote for Bush? No? Will the lower 97% have to pay more? Yes?

Hmm..
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07-26-2004, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by Carlito

Also, raising minimum wage so all the deadbeats cna stay at their deadend job and never try and better themselves. This will also put strain on 60% of all small businesses, preventing them from expanding, and some will even c lose their doors, giving more business to the corporation that libs already hate.

WTF? That is pure bullshit; it doesn't even make any sense!

Originally posted by Carlito

I am voting for neither Kerry nor Bush, because neither of them have a policy on Borders, Language, and Culture. I am tired of reading everything in Spanish, hearing spanish, blah blah blah.

The Spanish and Mexicans were in California before the english-speakers.

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07-26-2004, 11:36 AM

Why the hell would someone pay themselves a salary of 200k a year if you're self employed? Then you have to pay all those taxes on that money? You're better off paying yourself a very modest salary and keep your money in the company. The corporate tax rate is much much lower.

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07-26-2004, 11:37 AM

As long as my taxes go down
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07-26-2004, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by EviLGuY
Rich people don't pay taxes..

no shit, kerry packer, australias richest man pays about $10k per year
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07-26-2004, 11:51 AM

Rich people = tax free municipal bonds.

As far as raising minimum wage, that will only lead to unemployment. I don't have a problem with someone who works at McDonalds all their life, its their choice.
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07-26-2004, 11:53 AM

What taxes??

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07-26-2004, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by DrinkingHard
Why the hell would someone pay themselves a salary of 200k a year if you're self employed? Then you have to pay all those taxes on that money? You're better off paying yourself a very modest salary and keep your money in the company. The corporate tax rate is much much lower.

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07-26-2004, 12:01 PM

If Kerry gets in, it just means we have to all get creative again. Nothing new. Move on.

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07-26-2004, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Paying taxes is part of being an American and supporting America.

Do you think that soldiers, firemen, police officers, and all of the others work for free?

Do you support our troops or not?

Taxes are going to have to go up because Bush has wasted so much money in the last three years on a war for oil and other bullshit.

When a Republican is in office, they waste huge amounts of money, then a Democrat has to come into office and clean up all of the mess that the Republicans made.

That's the way it works.

If you don't want to pay more taxes, stop electing idiots like Bush who spend like crazy.

I agree with paying taxes, however I disagree with paying salaries nfor welfare losers, and funding various social programs that do nothing for the majority. Also dont like funding various programs that will eventually lead to the demise of some of our rights such as owning firearms.
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07-26-2004, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by Carlito
I agree with paying taxes, however I disagree with paying salaries nfor welfare losers, and funding various social programs that do nothing for the majority. Also dont like funding various programs that will eventually lead to the demise of some of our rights such as owning firearms.

If you really think that welfare doesn't benefit those not on it.. you must be living in a fairytale.

What do you think would happen if there was NO welfare? Do you think they are all going to magically get jobs? What would really happen is you'd have even more criminals. (and a criminal costs even more to house and feed then someone on welfare..)
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07-26-2004, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by DrinkingHard
Why the hell would someone pay themselves a salary of 200k a year if you're self employed? Then you have to pay all those taxes on that money? You're better off paying yourself a very modest salary and keep your money in the company. The corporate tax rate is much much lower.

DH

Not true at all. I thought you made a lot of money in this biz, if you do I'd get yourself a new accountant. If you have an S corp then regardless of what your salary is, all net income from your business passes through to your personal tax return and you pay tax on it whether you write yourself a check for the amount or not.

If you have a C corp, you are subject to double taxation, so even at the lower tax bracket for corporate, you'll pay at your regular tax bracket AGAIN as soon as it's distributed to you either through salary or dividend. They will get it from you when you take it out, one way or another.

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07-26-2004, 01:23 PM

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no shit, kerry packer, australias richest man pays about $10k per year

Doesn't matter how rich you are here in Sweden, you still get to pay up.

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07-26-2004, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by QuaWee
y should poor people have to pay the same taxes as the rich?

Why is your financial situation our fault or problem, and why should we be penalized for it?

Thats the real question - Just because we make more than you do, we're more apt to be penalized harder?

Like KRL said, just gotta get more creative.
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07-26-2004, 01:29 PM

creativity has it's own rewards!
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07-26-2004, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by EviLGuY
What do you think would happen if there was NO welfare? Do you think they are all going to magically get jobs? What would really happen is you'd have even more criminals. (and a criminal costs even more to house and feed then someone on welfare..)

That's exactly what welfare does. It ensures North America doesn't become a 3rd world nation, avoids revolution, and makes it so that the wealthy don't have to live behind gated estates complete with an army and tanks just to be safe.

That's the least of our problems yet politicians make it an issue, and therefore people think it's an issue. Remember 2% of the population owns something like 98% of the wealth. Much of the power to change in any direction is in their hands.

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07-26-2004, 01:41 PM

so on one hand you have a guy who wants to raise taxes for the rich and on the other someone who will spend money like it grows on trees

not to mention the next 4 years under bush could make the reagan war on porn look like childs play.

so if you make 200k+ from porn you have either higher taxes or higher legal fees when ashole comes for your business to make their supporters happy
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07-26-2004, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by Mike33
That's exactly what welfare does. It ensures North America doesn't become a 3rd world nation, avoids revolution, and makes it so that the wealthy don't have to live behind gated estates complete with an army and tanks just to be safe.

That's the least of our problems yet politicians make it an issue, and therefore people think it's an issue. Remember 2% of the population owns something like 98% of the wealth. Much of the power to change in any direction is in their hands.

Exactly.. and a decent deal for what it does.
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07-26-2004, 01:43 PM

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If Kerry gets in, it just means we have to all get creative again

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07-26-2004, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by QuaWee
y should poor people have to pay the same taxes as the rich?

what kind of communist on crack are you?

Because I work longer, smarter & harder with the result that I earn more money than the average joe (working from 9 to 5) means that I should pay more taxes?

What sense does that make. You obviously have no clue about what making money takes. Of course it's easier to get a "normal" jobs without and risks involved. But then again this does not mean I have to get fucked by having tp pay more taxes than you.
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07-26-2004, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by EviLGuY
If you really think that welfare doesn't benefit those not on it.. you must be living in a fairytale.

What do you think would happen if there was NO welfare? Do you think they are all going to magically get jobs? What would really happen is you'd have even more criminals. (and a criminal costs even more to house and feed then someone on welfare..)

people on welfare should be cleaning parks, streets, mowing lawns, shoveling snow, etc.

even if they're only working 20-30 hours a week at least the taxpayers are putting those bums to work
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07-26-2004, 01:56 PM

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what kind of communist on crack are you?

Because I work longer, smarter & harder with the result that I earn more money than the average joe (working from 9 to 5) means that I should pay more taxes?

What sense does that make. You obviously have no clue about what making money takes. Of course it's easier to get a "normal" jobs without and risks involved. But then again this does not mean I have to get fucked by having tp pay more taxes than you.

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07-26-2004, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by x-vision
Not true at all. I thought you made a lot of money in this biz, if you do I'd get yourself a new accountant. If you have an S corp then regardless of what your salary is, all net income from your business passes through to your personal tax return and you pay tax on it whether you write yourself a check for the amount or not.

If you have a C corp, you are subject to double taxation, so even at the lower tax bracket for corporate, you'll pay at your regular tax bracket AGAIN as soon as it's distributed to you either through salary or dividend. They will get it from you when you take it out, one way or another.

actually, what DH is basically correct....if you make say $100K and are self-employed, you owe social security, unemployment tax, etc., on the whole $100K. if you set up a corp, pay yourself maybe $40K in salary and the rest as a profit sharing distribution, you don't pay the ~9% (as mentioned above) on the remaining $60K, saving you around $5000 per year. i've already discussed this with my accountant and am setting up a S corp. later this year to get this done.

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07-26-2004, 02:53 PM

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07-26-2004, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by Carlito
If so you might want to find a new place to spend your vote this election.

Kerry's platform on www.foxnews.com (Interactive link and proceed) is to raise taxes for people making over $200k a year, while cutting taxes for the remaining people - basically continuing Bushes cuts for the middle class, and raising taxes for the rich. If he had it straight, he could cut taxes for _everyone_ and be alright.

The rich already pay 50% of all taxes in America (Something like the top 3% of earners pay 50% of all taxes)

So, anyone here that likes to enjoy your money, might want to consider this.

Also, raising minimum wage so all the deadbeats cna stay at their deadend job and never try and better themselves. This will also put strain on 60% of all small businesses, preventing them from expanding, and some will even c lose their doors, giving more business to the corporation that libs already hate.

The guy needs a better policy.

I am voting for neither Kerry nor Bush, because neither of them have a policy on Borders, Language, and Culture. I am tired of reading everything in Spanish, hearing spanish, blah blah blah.

Damned you are spoiled. I am considering moving to the US because of tax reasons..

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07-26-2004, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by TheMob?
Ah, greed. Gotta love it. The top 3% probably own 95% of the money, so where's the problem?

That's probably entirely true

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07-26-2004, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by webgurl
The rich gets richer and the poor peeps go poorer

20% of people will always control 80% of the wealth. thats just a fact of mathematics and numerical distribution. paretos law.

all people can't be equally rich anymore than all people can be equally intelligent.
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07-26-2004, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by Pleasurepays
20% of people will always control 80% of the wealth. thats just a fact of mathematics and numerical distribution. paretos law.

all people can't be equally rich anymore than all people can be equally intelligent.

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07-26-2004, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by Carlito
I am tired of reading everything in Spanish, hearing spanish, blah blah blah.

Then why do you call yourself "Carlito", asshole?

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07-26-2004, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by EviLGuY
Rich people don't pay taxes..

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07-26-2004, 03:49 PM

jeepers, you people make it sound like no matter how much money you make you still live the same lifestyle as someone on welfare.

You might be taxed more, but you still have a MUCH better life then them and you are living in a great country. If you don't like it, move to the Bahamas and pay no taxes.

I hate paying taxes as much as the next guy, but I also hate paying a cover charge to get into a bar.. but I LIVE with it.. I dont base my decision on where I'm going out for the night on the cover charge.

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