Abby Winters, this is truly sick!

**BukkakeBrown** · 06-03-2005, 01:23 PM

wtf.... they are going to hell

**V_RocKs** · 06-03-2005, 01:26 PM

Abby Winters does not have girls who are underage. She is very big on controlling how her girls are portrayed and this is not one of the ways she allows.

**fireorange** · 06-03-2005, 01:28 PM

Fuck Abby Winters and her/his worthless piece of shit site

Scamming affiliates.

**fireorange** · 06-03-2005, 01:28 PM

Warning AbbyWinters scams affiliates.

**seeric** · 06-03-2005, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by V_RocKs

Abby Winters does not have girls who are underage. She is very big on controlling how her girls are portrayed and this is not one of the ways she allows.

very true.

**V_RocKs** · 06-03-2005, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by fireorange

Warning AbbyWinters scams affiliates.

Me and my Abby Winters.

A story of love, hate, distrust and friendship.

When I first applied to Abby Winters, she said, "HELL NO!"

The site I was going to promote her on was full of hardcore and she didn't want her girls reputations to be as hardcore models (which they are not).

Then I created a softcore site and asked again. This time she said yes, but she remembered me and she'd keep tabs on me. (Which she did)

When I got my first check I had to jump through hoops to get it cashed. She put "Not Negotiable" on the face of it right next to the amount. In banking terms this means that only the person who the check was made out to can cash it. You cannot endorse it to a third party.

The second, third and fourth checks my bank refused to cash even though I brought with me an accounting terms pocket dictionary to show them what the phrase means.

I asked her if she could wire the money instead and she said she would instead, redesign the checks. Now they have a less confusing phrase.

I have been paid on time, everytime ever since.

**Lee** · 06-03-2005, 02:21 PM

Whilst that site doesnt appreciate affiliates I somehow dont believe they would do that. Sounds more like someone wants to stitch them up.

**fireorange** · 06-03-2005, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by V_RocKs

Me and my Abby Winters.

A story of love, hate, distrust and friendship.

When I first applied to Abby Winters, she said, "HELL NO!"

The site I was going to promote her on was full of hardcore and she didn't want her girls reputations to be as hardcore models (which they are not).

Then I created a softcore site and asked again. This time she said yes, but she remembered me and she'd keep tabs on me. (Which she did)

When I got my first check I had to jump through hoops to get it cashed. She put "Not Negotiable" on the face of it right next to the amount. In banking terms this means that only the person who the check was made out to can cash it. You cannot endorse it to a third party.

The second, third and fourth checks my bank refused to cash even though I brought with me an accounting terms pocket dictionary to show them what the phrase means.

I asked her if she could wire the money instead and she said she would instead, redesign the checks. Now they have a less confusing phrase.

I have been paid on time, everytime ever since.

In her forum, she teachs surfers how the affiliate thing works and how they are credited using cookies, etc. Members then start posting replies about how they will clean all cookies before signing up to further sites.

**fireorange** · 06-03-2005, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by Lee

Whilst that site doesnt appreciate affiliates I somehow dont believe they would do that. Sounds more like someone wants to stitch them up.

Regardless, fuck AbbyWinters.

**swedguy** · 06-03-2005, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by fireorange

In her forum, she teachs surfers how the affiliate thing works and how they are credited using cookies, etc. Members then start posting replies about how they will clean all cookies before signing up to further sites.

AHHHHH, I knew I recognized the name from somewhere. It's that twat.

**V_RocKs** · 06-03-2005, 04:37 PM

Wouldn't matter if they cleared the cookies... that isn't the only way transactions are tracked.

**xenigo** · 06-03-2005, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by fireorange

In her forum, she teachs surfers how the affiliate thing works and how they are credited using cookies, etc. Members then start posting replies about how they will clean all cookies before signing up to further sites.

I heard this first from Dean Capture, and I just can't imagine why this lady would do such a thing. Does she not understand that she wouldn't HAVE the join if it weren't for the affiliate?

**Tempest** · 06-03-2005, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by xenigo

I heard this first from Dean Capture, and I just can't imagine why this lady would do such a thing. Does she not understand that she wouldn't HAVE the join if it weren't for the affiliate?

Because she gets all the cash and fucks over the affiliates... Free traffic for her.. 100% cash in her pocket.

**fireorange** · 06-03-2005, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by xenigo

I heard this first from Dean Capture, and I just can't imagine why this lady would do such a thing. Does she not understand that she wouldn't HAVE the join if it weren't for the affiliate?

Yep, sucks doesn't it?
And some of her members were SHOCKED!
They wanted to cancel the subscription and rejoin by clearing cookies.

**fireorange** · 06-03-2005, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by V_RocKs

Wouldn't matter if they cleared the cookies... that isn't the only way transactions are tracked.

But one of the most effect ways of crediting a join.

**Donny** · 06-03-2005, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by V_RocKs

Abby Winters does not have girls who are underage. She is very big on controlling how her girls are portrayed and this is not one of the ways she allows.

SHE is a HE. "Abby" is a marketing ploy.

**SomeCreep** · 06-03-2005, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by V_RocKs

Abby Winters.

The second, third and fourth checks my bank refused to cash even though I brought with me an accounting terms pocket dictionary to show them what the phrase means.

I asked her if she could wire the money instead and she said she would instead, redesign the checks. Now they have a less confusing phrase.

I have been paid on time, everytime ever since.

Lol, you promote Abbywinters.com?

You're happy with a 50% cut on initial signups and no rebills???

**V_RocKs** · 06-04-2005, 02:50 AM

Originally posted by SomeCreep

Lol, you promote Abbywinters.com?

You're happy with a 50% cut on initial signups and no rebills???

Yes because my signups are $40 to $60 transactions...

So I do $20 to $30 per sale. Which is about par with other shit... And it converts better than a lot of shit out there.

**Wiggles** · 06-04-2005, 04:17 AM

i get one of those like once a week, fucking annoying.

**swedguy** · 06-04-2005, 04:27 AM

I see that they added this to their index page now: http://www.abbywinters.com/joejobbed.php

**MaDalton** · 06-04-2005, 05:10 AM

fact is: for the niche they are addressing they are fantastic. and that site is the reason why i intially got into adult - i started a small site with german girls, took my own pics. the rest is history...

**fr0gman** · 02-27-2006, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by Donny

SHE is a HE. "Abby" is a marketing ploy.

Can you prove that? That would be a huge hit to his/her "Females shot by females" marketing gig.

Abby Winters, this is truly sick!

Abby Winters, this is truly sick!

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