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Originally Posted by ianonlytease
No one has ever implemented pure Communism
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Weak argument and a popular commy argument at that. No one has ever implemented a purely capitalistic society either. The latter half of the twentieth century resolved the debate.
How many communist states are left? You can count them on one hand. Cuba is dirt poor. North Korea is half dirt poor. Laos and Viet Nam? More fractions of dirt poor. China succeeds insofar as it FREES its markets.
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Yes I know it's a weak argument. It was a point to illustrate part of the books summary on the website, if you look at the original part of my post:
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"The Evil Empire of the Soviet Union put the Manifesto into practice."
With out going into too many finer points, it didn't. Communisum and what happened in the USSR , especially under Stalin, were not the same. No one has ever implemented pure Communism, closest thing you'd get to it is probably an Israeli Kibbutz or similar sort of commune.
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I was getting at their wide ranging summary of:
a) The USSR putting it into practice. (Implying they did completley, which they didn't)
and b) The USSR being "Evil" (it wasn't good, but that's largely Stalin's legacy which is refered to. After WW2 the Cold War was seen as being defensive in USSR. They got invaded in the previous major European wars and wanted a series of buffer states to give them protection from the "West" who were percieved as hostile(which is perfectly valid considering the pre-war activities against communisim in Western Europe). Germany was effectively West Europes buffer state and North America was an ocean away, not easy to invade if they ever tried.)
I agree that there also hasn't been a purely capitalist society.
As to the countries mentioned being poor, only China wasn't small enough to be bullied and have a trade embargo on it, the only reason that China has not had that happen is that capitalist market economies have realised that there's a hude potential to make money there.(Plus they've a huge population that can be conscripted and armed!) An under developed economy with 1 billion consumers..hell I'd be investing left right and centre there..so much money to be made......which makes me think....anyone know what niches sites go down well in China????
Who'd ever have thought I'd be on a porn masters forum debating the pros and cons of different ideologies.....good stuff...
Keep it up..
Ian