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07-22-2004, 02:30 AM

Visit www.onecentporn.com for a sample site - but use FANTASYMAN as the promotion code when you sign up so you get some money in your account. Normally you'd be asked for your card details right after signup.

This is an example of charging by the click - one or two cents for pictures, 20 cents for 1 minute video clips. Of course, you can charge more - maybe increase the price as the set gets harder. But by keeping the low price you'll get the surfer to switch on "auto-confirm" so he just pays by clicking each thumb.

All that's involved is putting your content in a protected directory, putting the cgi bit in front of the links, and including some script for the control panel. You then upload the CGI program, register your site, and away you go. Slightly more to it than that, but not much.

Sorry about the design ;)

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07-22-2004, 02:55 AM

I think there is a lot of milegae in this idea -
Are you are setting it up along the lines of AVS where you keep a list of all participating site?
That way, all the traffic generated by webmasters has a chance of making more cash for everyone.

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07-22-2004, 03:27 AM

Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker
I think there is a lot of milegae in this idea -
Are you are setting it up along the lines of AVS where you keep a list of all participating site?
That way, all the traffic generated by webmasters has a chance of making more cash for everyone.

Thanks H.

I don't really want to compare it with an AVS, but there are some similarities.

There is a list of all participating sites inside the user's account pages. If the surfer is on Site A and visits the list, site A will get the traffic commission for any sites he visits.

If on another occasion the sufer just goes straight to payasyouclick, logs in and selects sites from the list, then the original referring merchant gets the traffic commission.

This means that sending an existing surfer to PAYC is never a traffic leak, on the other hand there is a real benefit to being the original referring site for lots of surfers.

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07-22-2004, 03:34 AM

Bump for you fantasyman. Still looking forward to talking with you.

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07-22-2004, 03:45 AM

Originally posted by Reak
aight

just got

Domain Action Period Result Amount Billed
2dollarvideos.com Register 1 Year Successful $8.95
2dollarteens.com Register 1 Year Successful $8.95
Grand Total $17.90

I think this gonna be the best $17.90 i ever invested

i dont think domains matter so much here

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07-22-2004, 03:45 AM

you know the cgi files are empty

nothing in the .zips

run on FreeBSD?

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07-22-2004, 03:53 AM

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
what he said

quoting yourself?

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07-22-2004, 04:08 AM

Originally posted by Mr. Mojo Risin
you know the cgi files are empty

nothing in the .zips

run on FreeBSD?

thanks

Nope, didn't know that. We'll get it sorted right now.

It will almost certainly run on FreeBSD, but we haven't set it up yet. I'll get back to you on that.

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07-22-2004, 04:12 AM

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
i dont think domains matter so much here

so go register supercoolnewpayperclick2centsand2dollarpervideo.co m or 2centperpornpicture.com is also available
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07-22-2004, 04:18 AM

Originally posted by Reak
so go register supercoolnewpayperclick2centsand2dollarpervideo.co m or 2centperpornpicture.com is also available

taken!
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07-22-2004, 04:24 AM

Originally posted by Reak
so go register supercoolnewpayperclick2centsand2dollarpervideo.co m or 2centperpornpicture.com is also available

i sad i dont think a separate ( or a 'special' ) domain is needed for this, but i may be wrong

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07-22-2004, 04:30 AM

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
i sad i dont think a separate ( or a 'special' ) domain is needed for this, but i may be wrong

It always works

2dollarvideos or 1dollarvideos 50centvideos what ever tells the surfer they can 1 full video for $0.50, 1 or 2 dollar.

So you dont have to tell them how much they cost any more or he wont be sad because of a '' high '' price since it's in the domain name.

If he doesnt have 0.50 , 1 or 2 dollar he probelly would click the site away.
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07-22-2004, 04:43 AM

Originally posted by Mr. Mojo Risin
you know the cgi files are empty

nothing in the .zips

run on FreeBSD?

thanks

Solaris zip is now uploaded, others seem fine. I've emailed you, please give me a phone number or ICQ and I'll help out if I can.

When uploading cgi files these are pre-compiled, so you have to upload as binary not text. There's a readme file in the zip to remind you.

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07-22-2004, 04:51 AM

Very nice Danny. Maybe we should have thought about getting Ron to pump our solution. ;-))

Lots of good feedback going on here.

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07-22-2004, 05:38 AM

I see a limited amount of countries in the micropaymetn account sign up.

does this mean that you can only charge those countries?

other than that seems pretty nice

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07-22-2004, 05:51 AM

i will let others try it first
if the numbers will interest me i might give it a shot
we'll see
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07-22-2004, 06:03 AM

Originally posted by inabon
I see a limited amount of countries in the micropaymetn account sign up.

does this mean that you can only charge those countries?

other than that seems pretty nice

Hi inabon,

Thanks for the kind words.

PayAsYouClick is inherrently "fraud resistant", in that its very hard to move large amounts of money with it, and unusual spending patterns are very obvious. Never-the-less we don't want to be seen as a soft target, so the initial country list is quite restricted.

I hate the idea of country-filtering for anti-fraud. We'll keep this under review and modify the country list as we need to. If you have specific countries you feel are wrongly excluded please drop us an email and we'll take advice.

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07-22-2004, 06:52 AM

Nice idea

But there is a security problem with it...

http://www.micropaymentdemo.com/demo...tm?payc=301993

I think processing server just checks for the reffering url hence it allows me to spoof it using zspoof

spoof

First pic should charge 1 cent, second one should charge 15 cents for 10 mins... As I don't have any accounts I'm not sure what would happen next, but I think it'll allow that. May be you should encrypt those price & minute settings at the links using a custom key for each merchant to verify it...

I know average surfer might never notice or try that but leak is a leak..
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07-22-2004, 07:44 AM

Very interesting.
I think you should build pages with multiple languages for international customers..
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07-22-2004, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by Arty
Nice idea

But there is a security problem with it...

http://www.micropaymentdemo.com/demo...tm?payc=301993

I think processing server just checks for the reffering url hence it allows me to spoof it using zspoof

spoof

First pic should charge 1 cent, second one should charge 15 cents for 10 mins... As I don't have any accounts I'm not sure what would happen next, but I think it'll allow that. May be you should encrypt those price & minute settings at the links using a custom key for each merchant to verify it...

I know average surfer might never notice or try that but leak is a leak..

No, there's no security problem there!

You're not logged in. For performance reasons it doesn't bother to check the price until you have logged in, that's why it's looking like accepting your click in your screen shot. If you get an account and follow through on the click, you'll see it will refuse you because the price is wrong.

Its simple to get an account - try it.

We don't rely on the referrer for security.

All static links are pre-registered to ensure that no content is obtained at the wrong price. Or if you use dynamic links, the price and minute settings are protected by an MD5 hash including the unique merchant password.

You had me worried for a moment, but only a moment!

Danny

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07-22-2004, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by hanii
Very interesting.
I think you should build pages with multiple languages for international customers..

It's definitely our intention to do this.

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07-22-2004, 09:08 AM

Always the innovator, never the duplicator....
Nice Job Fantasyman!!!

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07-22-2004, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by Reak
It always works

2dollarvideos or 1dollarvideos 50centvideos what ever tells the surfer they can 1 full video for $0.50, 1 or 2 dollar.

So you dont have to tell them how much they cost any more or he wont be sad because of a '' high '' price since it's in the domain name.

Oh well, you're probably right in most parts.
I predict in 10 years you will be more succesfull than Lensman

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07-22-2004, 09:49 AM

Great stuff !

Congrats to the PayAsYouClick team

Some great ideas already being thrown around here as
to how to get different streams of income flowing with this
System.

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07-22-2004, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by [illnet]-Tony
Great stuff !

Congrats to the PayAsYouClick team

Some great ideas already being thrown around here as
to how to get different streams of income flowing with this
System.

Many thanks Tony.

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07-22-2004, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Oh well, you're probably right in most parts.
I predict in 10 years you will be more succesfull than Lensman

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07-22-2004, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by Reak
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not, i admitted that you convinced me

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07-22-2004, 10:13 AM

Danny, for the sake of keeping things seperate.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=329644

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07-22-2004, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
not, i admitted that you convinced me

aight, i'm glad
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07-22-2004, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by Matrix
Always the innovator, never the duplicator....
Nice Job Fantasyman!!!

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07-22-2004, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by PayAsYouClick
No, there's no security problem there!

You're not logged in. For performance reasons it doesn't bother to check the price until you have logged in, that's why it's looking like accepting your click in your screen shot. If you get an account and follow through on the click, you'll see it will refuse you because the price is wrong.

Its simple to get an account - try it.

We don't rely on the referrer for security.

All static links are pre-registered to ensure that no content is obtained at the wrong price. Or if you use dynamic links, the price and minute settings are protected by an MD5 hash including the unique merchant password.

You had me worried for a moment, but only a moment!

Danny

Great to hear that...

Yeah, I wasn't logged in as I noted.. I'm a bit busy right now but I will register & try for sure, as I think I'll implement that exclusively one of the empty domains I have.

Btw, how that works? "All static links are pre-registered" Does it spiders the site to grab links & prices?
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07-22-2004, 11:19 AM

Danny,

Your TOS is pretty harsh. I accepted it but that is because I am just testing the system. I could see some problems when you start getting into some decent funds being earned and paid out.

How about having a couple of programmers to help others with the setup process? Say like 25 or 50 per setup. Example they are numerous one girl sites out there that have been online for over fives years but they still do not know how to edit cgi files nor upload them. It would be nice for them if you had an installer on hand that could do some installs for you. Serious flaw making someone go through the setup process in order to start using the system. User friendly is ideal.

Are you against the idea of this being used for cpc programs? Meaning rewarding on a per click or per lead basis?

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07-22-2004, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by Jimmer
When Danny first came out with this idea, no one liked it but now that Fantasyman is plugging it....
I sure wish the search was working to find the old thread.

This idea has been around a lot longer than GFY. The theory of micropayments goes many years back in the mainstream, it's just that no one seems to be able to make people use them.

Hopefully this project will be a hit!

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07-22-2004, 11:35 AM

bump

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07-22-2004, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by fantasyman
You know sometimes you have to actually do something to make money, we're so spoiled in this industry

It still beats building a brick wall in the heat - you have to carry the cement and bricks, mix the cement, place the bricks, drink beer and you never see any pussy!! lol

Not even on the other side of the wall ?

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07-22-2004, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by JFK
Not even on the other side of the wall ?

....not even on the other side

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07-22-2004, 01:18 PM

Interesting concept... playing with some ideas in my head...

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07-22-2004, 01:24 PM

Maybe TGP's could place their archives behind micropayments...

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07-22-2004, 01:52 PM

Not sure if this was answered yet but will this work with Windows media video?
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07-22-2004, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by EZRhino
Not sure if this was answered yet but will this work with Windows media video?

Yes

Here is an example video site http://www.1dollarvideo.com

One of the largest income opportunities involved with this is the Webmaster referral program where you make two tiers 5% and 2.5% - nobody was signed up to this before last night. That leaves you a lot of Webmasters to sign up!!

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07-22-2004, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by devilspost
So I have to enter my own credit card to make money?

I would sign up if i didnt have to do that.

btw, if you sign up on the link in my sig and use the promotional code FANTASYMAN you will get a FREE $5 to check it out without entering your credit card.

Put your own payasyouclick account number in your own sig and promote it!!

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07-22-2004, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by EZRhino
Not sure if this was answered yet but will this work with Windows media video?

Yes it does support WMV, they work just fine on recent IE and Netscape.

Take a look at http://www.onecentporn.com/videos.htm . OneCentPorn is our main adult demo site.

Click on Donna (I'm rather fond of Donna). She's providing one minute clips at 20 cents each, WMV format. They seem to stream properly too.

Webdork has got a live site linked from the videos page selling full length videos at $1 each - www.1dollarvideo.com . These are 50MB, so are downloaded as zip files rather than the video format. I think it took him a couple of hours to set that up.

Although these are some of the first live sites, they show how you can give a range of prices. 1 and 2 cent pictures (pretty average quality but you get the full set), 20 cent clips of better quality than you will ever find free, and an upsell to $1 full length videos on another site.

That's how we show the surfer its worth getting an account. And once he's got an account, can you imagine him visiting ANY site and not at least clicking a few pictures and clips? Micropayments don't mean lower spend levels.

By the way, www.1dollarvideo.com has its traffic commission set to 50%. So when www.onecentporn.com sends traffic there, onecentporn will get 50 cents for every $1 video sold. 1dollarvideo will get good traffic in return, but will only pay based on results. I could send as much hitbot traffic as I wanted, if it didn't buy any videos, I wouldn't get paid for it.

The only restriction you should be aware of for videos etc is that that right-click save-as doesn't work. You should tell surfers this to avoid complaints, and explain how to save from within Media viewer - or sell them as zips.

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07-22-2004, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by fantasyman
btw, if you sign up on the link in my sig and use the promotional code FANTASYMAN you will get a FREE $5 to check it out without entering your credit card.

Put your own payasyouclick account number in your own sig and promote it!!

Guys, when you promote it in your sig etc, tell people to use PAYCDEMO as the promotion code, and send them to

www.payasyouclick.com?payc=YOURACCOUNT

This will give them $2, and you will be recorded as the referrer. PAYCDEMO is available for any webmaster to promote to other webmasters. FANTASYMAN and other individual codes will override your links.

Remember there are two levels of referrals, 5% and 2.5% of sales commission in each case.

Danny

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07-22-2004, 08:38 PM

Are there any members yet? a couple? lots?
I only see the 2 sites when I login

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07-23-2004, 04:09 AM

I just checked and as someone mentioned and unlike I've been told, only some selected countries are supported. :-/

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07-23-2004, 05:20 AM

the idea has been around for quite some time. Never seemed to work, but hey good luck nonetheless!
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07-23-2004, 05:22 AM

Wow! Good idea!

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07-23-2004, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by siccmade
Are there any members yet? a couple? lots?
I only see the 2 sites when I login

The response from webmasters has been phenomenal. Sites of all shapes and sizes are being built up right now, but they don't appear in the list until they're ready to go live. In some cases there is a huge amount of content going up, in others we're looking at integrating our payment system with more complex sites both in adult and some very interesting mainstream applications.

This is where we're going to need some help. The response has amazed everyone, but we're determined to continue providing the best tech support you can ask for. We don't want any holdups getting your sites to market.

I've posted details in a separate thread of our requirements for tech support people to help out new webmasters, both for simple sites and the more demanding ones. If one or more webmasters are interested in being in at the start of this, and have GREAT support skills, please drop me an email.

Here's the job thread.

http://gofuckyourself.com/newreply.p...hreadid=330356

Thanks again everyone.

Best wishes,

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07-23-2004, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
I just checked and as someone mentioned and unlike I've been told, only some selected countries are supported. :-/

Although PAYC is by its nature incredibly fraud resistant, we will not be seen as a soft target. The list is an initial launch position, we'll be extending it but on advice from people that know how to manage this better than me.

Let us know what countries you feel are inappropriately excluded and we'll look into it.

Remember also that this is the list for surfers. Regardless of the list, webmasters that come recommended will not be excluded based on where they live, but they may be subject to increased due diligence. I don't like it any more than you do, but its a reality we all have to face.

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07-23-2004, 11:32 PM

i also think that there must be a lot of sites that use this or high-quaility sites for a surfer to pay
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