Do you think anyone will be prosecuted for the new 2257 laws?

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  • Jace
    FBOP Class Of 2013
    • Jan 2004
    • 35562

    #1

    Do you think anyone will be prosecuted for the new 2257 laws?

    well...do you think someone will actually get prosecuted for not complying?
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    Yes, with jail time
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    Yes, but just a fine
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    No
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  • freeadultcontent
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    • Oct 2002
    • 9976

    #2
    I would give good odds they already have a list ready.

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    • MandyBlake
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      • Nov 2002
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      #3
      For errors in trying to conform no especiallly if all your models are over 18. If you decide to do nothing then yes probably but who knows.
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      • AaronM
        GFY Royality ;)
        • Oct 2001
        • 46917

        #4
        Originally posted by freeadultcontent
        I would give good odds they already have a list ready.

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        • StarkReality
          Confirmed User
          • May 2004
          • 4444

          #5
          They create a law that it almost impossible to comply with, why would they do this if they wouldn't plan on some major attacks against the industry...

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          • tony299
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            • Aug 2002
            • 57021

            #6
            Originally posted by freeadultcontent
            I would give good odds they already have a list ready.
            Yep I bet there is a short list ready to go.

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            • Mack
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2003
              • 1017

              #7
              correct me if I am wrong, but the body that enforces 2257 has to report back yearly their findings................


              This is what i understood to be the case.

              And I can't see them going into their meeting without something to justify their existance.

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              • AaronM
                GFY Royality ;)
                • Oct 2001
                • 46917

                #8
                Originally posted by Mack
                correct me if I am wrong, but the body that enforces 2257 has to report back yearly their findings................


                This is what i understood to be the case.

                And I can't see them going into their meeting without something to justify their existance.
                WTF do you think happend this year?

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                • crockett
                  in a van by the river
                  • May 2003
                  • 76818

                  #9
                  Originally posted by AaronM
                  WTF do you think happend this year?
                  yea no shit Asscrack went in and reported he hadn't done any record checks, and had no excuse as to why. Yet he did have a brand new version of the law, which is what we are facing now.
                  In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                  • M_M
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2004
                    • 1167

                    #10
                    Will they go after every single thumb tgp?
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                    • freeadultcontent
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 9976

                      #11
                      Originally posted by M_M
                      Will they go after every single thumb tgp?
                      Damn, ok they will not go after every single site on the net. They will pick and choose easy wins. This in turn will cause wide spread panic and webmasters will quit instead of becoming compliant. Yet since it seems everyone and their brother in law run a tgp and call themselves webmasters, I would imagine once a few go down many will follow and thin the heard a great deal.

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                      • M_M
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                        • May 2004
                        • 1167

                        #12
                        Originally posted by freeadultcontent
                        Damn, ok they will not go after every single site on the net. They will pick and choose easy wins. This in turn will cause wide spread panic and webmasters will quit instead of becoming compliant. Yet since it seems everyone and their brother in law run a tgp and call themselves webmasters, I would imagine once a few go down many will follow and thin the heard a great deal.
                        but it will affect only american sites, right?
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                          • fr33s3x
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                            • Apr 2003
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                            #14
                            i think so

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                            • freeadultcontent
                              Confirmed User
                              • Oct 2002
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by M_M
                              but it will affect only american sites, right?
                              I can not answer this on the grounds that it is a poorly thought out question.

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                              • sumphatpimp
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2002
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                                #16
                                as mentioned above, yes they have a list.
                                after the clarification they will wait awhile for people to comply then they will nail them.

                                law states they check you every 4 months.

                                think what that will cost?

                                anything for a show for the elections.

                                that is what it is about.

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                                • Jace
                                  FBOP Class Of 2013
                                  • Jan 2004
                                  • 35562

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by freeadultcontent
                                  I can not answer this on the grounds that it is a poorly thought out question.

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                                  • M_M
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2004
                                    • 1167

                                    #18
                                    i think people will take their chances on this one.. and if they start enforcing this shit, webmasters will go offshore or just close shop..

                                    if thats what america wants, let it be..
                                    there are much easier and more efficient ways to fight child porn, but this seems more like a war against porn in general..
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                                    • jimmyf
                                      OU812
                                      • Feb 2001
                                      • 12651

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by M_M

                                      if thats what america wants, let it be..
                                      there are much easier and more efficient ways to fight child porn, but this seems more like a war against porn in general..
                                      I agree with this
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                                      • tony299
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                                        • Aug 2002
                                        • 57021

                                        #20
                                        For people that think I shoot older models I dont have to do this. You are very very wrong. Also if they fine you its not $50 , its $5000 at the cheapest. IF its like other fines in court if you dont have the money you sit in jail til you get it.

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                                        • tony299
                                          lurker
                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 57021

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by M_M
                                          i think people will take their chances on this one.. and if they start enforcing this shit, webmasters will go offshore or just close shop..

                                          if thats what america wants, let it be..
                                          there are much easier and more efficient ways to fight child porn, but this seems more like a war against porn in general..
                                          No thats not what America wants its what the religious right wants thats why its important to vote and get involved.

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                                          • Babagirls
                                            Text Writer
                                            • Feb 2001
                                            • 18812

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by M_M
                                            i think people will take their chances on this one.. and if they start enforcing this shit, webmasters will go offshore or just close shop..

                                            if thats what america wants, let it be..
                                            there are much easier and more efficient ways to fight child porn, but this seems more like a war against porn in general..
                                            i agree.

                                            and to add, they're not gonna throw webmasters across the usa in jail for not being 2257 compliant. wouldnt be worth it for anyone (UNLESS the pics were proved to be under 18 yrs of age). then i can see them going to jail, but not just for not having a 2257 link on sites.




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                                            • SykkBoy2
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                                              • Feb 2001
                                              • 19969

                                              #23
                                              I don't know if they will go after anyone specifically for this law, but I'm sure they will use it if they want to nail someone bad enough and can't get them on anything else...

                                              let's face it, even if you're records are super clean and 100% in compliance, you still don't want the Feds snooping around...god forbid they find a single image in your cache that you can't account for...
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                                              • Ray@TastyDollars
                                                • May 2002
                                                • 6797

                                                #24
                                                Oh Canada........

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                                                • bringer
                                                  i have man boobies
                                                  • Jul 2003
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                                                  #25
                                                  yeah, and it'll be someone big
                                                  they need an example to ensure everyone else complys
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                                                  • Babagirls
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                                                    • Feb 2001
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by bringer
                                                    yeah, and it'll be someone big
                                                    they need an example to ensure everyone else complys
                                                    yep!




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                                                    • shaneFPS
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                      • 25

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by M_M
                                                      but it will affect only american sites, right?
                                                      Why does everyone think they can get a overseas server or be overseas not to be effective? Where are 90% of your sponcers/cc processors at.....I think that will answer your question ;-)

                                                      Shane

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                                                      • tony299
                                                        lurker
                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                        • 57021

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by bringer
                                                        yeah, and it'll be someone big
                                                        they need an example to ensure everyone else complys
                                                        Actually I disagree, I think they will hit some mom pops. It will scare others closed and they dont have the money to challenge it. Thats why the big fish have to decide to band together and if that happens send a lawyer to fight. The more wins they get the harder it will be to fight.

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                                                        • tony299
                                                          lurker
                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                          • 57021

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by shaneFPS
                                                          Why does everyone think they can get a overseas server or be overseas not to be effective? Where are 90% of your sponcers/cc processors at.....I think that will answer your question ;-)

                                                          Shane
                                                          You are very right and you would have to move with the server for it to work. As long as the money comes into this country you are fucked. You can change whats happening by getting out and vote I cant say it enough.

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                                                          • pussyluver
                                                            Clueless OleMan
                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                            • 11009

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by tony404
                                                            Actually I disagree, I think they will hit some mom pops. It will scare others closed and they dont have the money to challenge it. Thats why the big fish have to decide to band together and if that happens send a lawyer to fight. The more wins they get the harder it will be to fight.
                                                            Have to agree. A few unlucky few may really get fucked!

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                                                            • Vitasoy
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                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                              • 58202

                                                              #31
                                                              I think so, it's only a matter of time. They'll show an example of someone.


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                                                              • bringer
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                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                • 13082

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by tony404
                                                                Actually I disagree, I think they will hit some mom pops. It will scare others closed and they dont have the money to challenge it. Thats why the big fish have to decide to band together and if that happens send a lawyer to fight. The more wins they get the harder it will be to fight.
                                                                good point
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                                                                • Mack
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                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                  • 1017

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                  WTF do you think happend this year?

                                                                  correction

                                                                  And I can't see them going into their meeting without something to justify their existanceagain .


                                                                  Oh and Aaron M thanks for the correction
                                                                  Last edited by Mack; 07-23-2004, 04:20 PM.

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                                                                  • bdld
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                                                                    • Dec 2001
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    my best bet is that they'll start going after "extreme" sites, and teen sites first - easy victories.

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                                                                    • emthree
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                                                                      • Jun 2003
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      I'm just confused

                                                                      The overall idea does not seem feasible w/ 92384902384932 adult pages out there.

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                                                                      • Jace
                                                                        FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                        • Jan 2004
                                                                        • 35562

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by emthree
                                                                        I'm just confused

                                                                        The overall idea does not seem feasible w/ 92384902384932 adult pages out there.
                                                                        but they won't be going after 92384902384932 adult pages, they will go after 10-20 like they did with operation pipe dreams, and scare the rest of the small ones into closing

                                                                        look what they did here
                                                                        http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/pressrel/pr022403.html

                                                                        they went after 20-30 bong sellers online, and then the rest of the pack closed shop out of fear

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