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  • PerfectionGirls
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Oct 2002
    • 4484
    #51
    Jeff Meyers of Perfection Trash fucked over http://www.anna19.com from Sweden, countless other models, shaved affiliates, and stole some Solar Cash traffic a few years ago. This piece of shit scumbag is still around supported by the all mighty porn kings.

    You are a lieing fucking piece of shit! I never stole any fucking traffic from Solarcash or anyone else you stupid fuck! Anna19 was one of my sites, but is no longer in our prorgram. Thats the only fuck bit of you spoke you cock!

    All my models are paid and we did not shave our affiliates. We had a rebill issue that was resolved... which totalled 127.00 in lost money to our affilaites that has since been made up and paid. All our bill are paid... not by pornkings, but me you fucking looser!

    We send traffic currently to Solarcash and have for the last two years. You and your big dumb ass mouth talked shit a month ago when you were fliing that Pinapple Cash banner and got that sponsor in a ton of shit. So much shit that they ask you to remove there button from your sig. Now, you want to cause issues with us and Solarcash. Well you worthless fuck, you can talk all the trash you want, but you might want to get in touch with Milke see if this is the course you should take on this issue you fucking punk. Get over it.. we are not going anywhere.

    And as for pornkings supporting me? You dont know shit and you could not be further off base. They have my sites in their program and thats as far as it goes.

    Stop hiding behind your name and come face me like a man. Hit me on icq and I will give you my number. You dont know jack!

    Your lieing shit is getting old. We know what mistakes we made and we have dealt with them. Just watch how strong we are.. we learned, regrouped and and stronger then ever. I know you hate that, but if I do it fo rno other reason, I will do it to spite you.

    _____________________


    Cherrylula... sorry for the drama and please hit me up. The sites have been totally redone and they are packed with content. We have added over 27,000 exclusive pics that I have shot for the sites since April 1st of this year. Its all fresh and all new. We have added 14 new girls to perfectiongirls alone.

    I will get you a webmaster pass and you can check it out for yourself.

    We want your business and we will do whatever it takes to get it.

    Jeff
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      • Bansheelinks
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2003
        • 6023
        #52
        Originally posted by hershie
        Only a couple of times for tiny amounts despite the hundreds of webmasters I agreed to give content to in advance of them sending payments. My brother-in-law screwed me for $80K in a mainstream deal and I am still contemplating suing but it's killing my mom seeing a family feud split us apart.
        Dude, if anyone screwed me out of that kind of money, 80K, they wouldn't live to tell the tale. Sorry for sounding psychopathic but thats simply the way it be.

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          • pxxx
            First African GFY Member
            • Mar 2004
            • 12114
            #53
            Originally posted by Fletch XXX
            I have been thinking lately, and talking to many on ICQ about some pretty big projects coming.

            It got me curious to how many of you have actually been fucked over by someone you had a deal with?

            I know some have claimed to have been ripped for many thousands, while others only a couple k, either way have you been ripped off by a piece of shit crook?

            I was talking to someone on ICQ and it was along the lines of ...

            "its almost not a question of who or how much money, its WHEN are you going to get fucked."

            Sad, I have done so much business with so many people, I almost feel lucky I was only fucked over very minutely compared to some of the stories of people I do business with.
            Fletch: It is a very sad thing because anyone would like to feel safe and confortable with doing business with another person in this industry. The saddest part of it all is that mostly people that are trying to get into this business fulltime, and have a couple of thousands to invest with, are the most vulnerable to being ripped off. I can almost speak from experience, and it is very sad.



            -Greg

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              • Matt M
                Confirmed User
                • Nov 2002
                • 738
                #54
                I have witnessed my fair share of fuckings first hand. Like it has been said though, you willsee that in any business not just this one. I think with this industry we are are a little bit "closer" and therefore it hurts more. It isnt some "noface" doing it.It is someone that you may have known for a while, and liked. Then they betray you. The thing that keeps me going is knowning that what goes around comes around. I have been lucky to also witness first hand the ones who wrong, get wronged. No one is untouchable, and everyone will have to "deal" with the seeds they sow.
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                  • Paul
                    Confirmed User
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 2637
                    #55
                    Just over a month ago a website came up for sale that I was very interested in buying, I contacted the webmaster who I had known for 4 maybe 5 years now. We quickly agreed a price (which I thought he was happy with) He agreed to take the site off the market so no one else could come in and buy it. He gave me his word that the site would be sold to me so we had a verbal contract.

                    Anyway the guy tells me I must have the money to him by friday (gave me 4 days) I had no problem with this, only problem is he wanted paypal and I wanted to use a secure service like an escrow.

                    Friday came and I get contacted by someone else who had shown interest in the site. Someone from this board infact who runs a very very large webmaster program. Anyways I explain the situation to him, telling him how we we had a virtual contract and payment was the only issue.

                    Anyway a week goes by without any contact from the seller (hes ignoring me) and then i find out a week later that the website has been sold to this other guy.

                    Now I didn't lose any money in this (thankfully) but I lost a great deal of time and I certainly felt fucked over considering that the the guy gave me his word and then to find out he went behind my back to sell the site to someone else

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                      • MetaMan
                        I AM WEB 2.0
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 28682
                        #56
                        my first design job ever was a major project including flash, custom icons, photography etc.

                        i had to hire a few extra designers to help me along with the project,

                        the company disapeared and ended up costing me money, since then i do biz with myself.

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                          • johnbosh
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 8965
                            #57
                            a lot of people , you really have to look out with who tyou do business

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                              • TDF
                                Triple OG nigga on GFY
                                • Mar 2002
                                • 27296
                                #58
                                lots of white collar crimes in this industry,and peple continue doing buisness with each other
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                                  • Tala
                                    Fucked if I know
                                    • Dec 2002
                                    • 23368
                                    #59
                                    I've only been fucked over once, for pennies compared to the many others here, and it was quite recently. Amazing who you can't trust these days.

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                                      • Raf1
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Oct 2003
                                        • 12117
                                        #60
                                        I'm pretty careful about who I do business with, but I've lost some money here and there. It's a part of doing business over the internet.
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                                          • Firehorse
                                            Desire it and have it!!!
                                            • Apr 2002
                                            • 30767
                                            #61
                                            We are owed 60k on a contract that we would have to go to cour to recover!
                                            MySweetEbony

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                                              • project_naughty
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Apr 2004
                                                • 568
                                                #62
                                                "A friend of mine" was fucked over several times in London property deals. It's often difficult to get things right in court so he took better action.
                                                It's amazing how quickly people can be motivated to pay you what they owe + hassle money if the proper avenues are followed.

                                                The scamming fuckers are just waiting to get fucked themselves.

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                                                  • TheGoldenChild
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • May 2002
                                                    • 6940
                                                    #63
                                                    Don't even get me started....

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                                                      • Turboface
                                                        Back in Black
                                                        • Mar 2002
                                                        • 9976
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by SureFire
                                                        Care to elaborate?
                                                        As a matter of fact, I do.

                                                        Keep an eye out for the thread, coming soon.

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                                                          • Pornkings
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                            • 5334
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                            There's a lot of deals that go sour that are also not talked about publicly, particularly pre-paid deals between sponsors and affiliates. You very rarely see a sponsor claiming to be ripped off but it does happen.

                                                            WG
                                                            SO true cause we aren?t whiny bitches. Unfortunalty its part of doing business.

                                                            We have been fucked for 100?s of thousands of dollars in many ways from designers to traffic deals etc.. Had deals go bad with well known sponsors but you will never see us whine like little bitches.
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                                                              • NichePay_Manny
                                                                Registered User
                                                                • Jul 2004
                                                                • 1833
                                                                #66
                                                                hay men the ones u need to watch over is the closer ones to u.I always got fucked over by looser friends.5k at a time .

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                                                                  • quiet
                                                                    we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                                    • Sep 2001
                                                                    • 25115
                                                                    #67
                                                                    i'm currently being fucked over for 12K. we'll see how it all turns out...
                                                                    we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                                      • Fletch XXX
                                                                        GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                                        • 60840
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Originally posted by quiet
                                                                        i'm currently being fucked over for 12K. we'll see how it all turns out...
                                                                        sorry to hear

                                                                        i got friends that would put pain on people for half that



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                                                                          • quiet
                                                                            we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                                            • Sep 2001
                                                                            • 25115
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                            sorry to hear

                                                                            i got friends that would put pain on people for half that



                                                                            *throws on that B4B*
                                                                            we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                                              • Herb Kornfield
                                                                                Is on the 1
                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                • 4996
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by Turboface
                                                                                As a matter of fact, I do.

                                                                                Keep an eye out for the thread, coming soon.
                                                                                Pat,

                                                                                There was an agreement to repay you the $1200 and payments were made to you towards this balance already and there are payments coming each month as agreed to you via paypal.

                                                                                You have recieved payments and will continue to do so until repaid in full as was agreed. How making good over time warrants a thread is beyond me.

                                                                                But, that is your choice to make.

                                                                                Jim
                                                                                Last edited by Herb Kornfield; 07-22-2004, 05:14 PM.

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                                                                                  • Magnus
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                                    • 1211
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    My first project almost 4 years ago ...bilked out of an excellent idea and had 10K held for ransom and in the end I walked away with 6 months worth of nothing and none of that 10K.

                                                                                    So forgive me for being a lil cynical from time to time...
                                                                                    Magnus

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                                                                                      • xxxdesign-net
                                                                                        My hips don't lie
                                                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                                                        • 10129
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        I'll say have been screwed of only $5000 so far.. One guy just stop responding after I paid him $2000 .. 6 month later the guy get back to me asking for a favor telling me he is his son and his dad died in a car crash... but strangely, the son cannot pay me back with his dad's money... Yeah right..
                                                                                        Last edited by xxxdesign-net; 07-22-2004, 05:28 PM.

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                                                                                          • Turboface
                                                                                            Back in Black
                                                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                                                            • 9976
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by Herb Kornfield
                                                                                            Pat,

                                                                                            There was an agreement to repay you the $1200 and payments were made to you towards this balance already and there are payments coming each month as agreed to you via paypal.

                                                                                            You have recieved payments and will continue to do so until repaid in full as was agreed. How making good over time warrants a thread is beyond me.

                                                                                            But, that is your choice to make.

                                                                                            Jim

                                                                                            Listen, you said that you were going to repay me the $1200 over a period of a year, $100/mo, which I was kind enough to agree to, but then after receiving only one or two payments, I don't hear from you or get any more payments - and this is a couple months now. I've been more than patient with you but my patience is running out and I'm getting pretty pissed off now.

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                                                                                              • spamiam
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                                                • 272
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                so many times but i will keep trying, anyway i love making content

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                                                                                                  • Doctor Dre
                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                                    • 51692
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    I did couple times ... shit happens ...

                                                                                                    Right now I'm owed money by a well known guy and it pisses me off . Been couple months now ... And I hate to talk shit on the boards ... but sometimes it's the only solution
                                                                                                    Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                                    I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                                                      • Herb Kornfield
                                                                                                        Is on the 1
                                                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                                                        • 4996
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        Originally posted by Turboface
                                                                                                        Listen, you said that you were going to repay me the $1200 over a period of a year, $100/mo, which I was kind enough to agree to, but then after receiving only one or two payments, I don't hear from you or get any more payments - and this is a couple months now. I've been more than patient with you but my patience is running out and I'm getting pretty pissed off now.

                                                                                                        So why didnt you reach out to me about this matter to discuss it to have my crew resolve the issue?

                                                                                                        The matter will be resolved as agreed.

                                                                                                        This is the end of discussing this on a public forum.

                                                                                                        Jim

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                                                                                                          • Turboface
                                                                                                            Back in Black
                                                                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                                                                            • 9976
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            Originally posted by Herb Kornfield
                                                                                                            So why didnt you reach out to me about this matter to discuss it to have my crew resolve the issue?

                                                                                                            The matter will be resolved as agreed.

                                                                                                            This is the end of discussing this on a public forum.

                                                                                                            Jim

                                                                                                            I just contacted you on ICQ a few weeks ago to see why it has been months since you sent me a payment and you were all like 'The payment is all set to go out.', but as usual, you are yesing me to death and you don't send anything. I have no idea what is going through your head, but I'm not just going to let you get away with ripping me off and just let it go.

                                                                                                            Pay up.

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                                                                                                              • BBWTori
                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                • 615
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Originally posted by MissMina
                                                                                                                Yep I can say that I have been fucked by someone in the industry. In the BBW Niche. I rather not go into it. Fucker..
                                                                                                                You aren't the only BBW getting fucked on a daily basis Mina...
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                                                                                                                  • Doctor Dre
                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                    • 51692
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Coatsy
                                                                                                                    Just over a month ago a website came up for sale that I was very interested in buying, I contacted the webmaster who I had known for 4 maybe 5 years now. We quickly agreed a price (which I thought he was happy with) He agreed to take the site off the market so no one else could come in and buy it. He gave me his word that the site would be sold to me so we had a verbal contract.

                                                                                                                    Anyway the guy tells me I must have the money to him by friday (gave me 4 days) I had no problem with this, only problem is he wanted paypal and I wanted to use a secure service like an escrow.

                                                                                                                    Friday came and I get contacted by someone else who had shown interest in the site. Someone from this board infact who runs a very very large webmaster program. Anyways I explain the situation to him, telling him how we we had a virtual contract and payment was the only issue.

                                                                                                                    Anyway a week goes by without any contact from the seller (hes ignoring me) and then i find out a week later that the website has been sold to this other guy.

                                                                                                                    Now I didn't lose any money in this (thankfully) but I lost a great deal of time and I certainly felt fucked over considering that the the guy gave me his word and then to find out he went behind my back to sell the site to someone else

                                                                                                                    Get a signed contract ... always
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                                                    I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                                                                      • hershie
                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                        • Jun 2002
                                                                                                                        • 4642
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Bansheelinks
                                                                                                                        Dude, if anyone screwed me out of that kind of money, 80K, they wouldn't live to tell the tale. Sorry for sounding psychopathic but thats simply the way it be.
                                                                                                                        Sometimes maintaining family peace, especially when your mom is getting a broken heart from seeing her only kids being pulled apart over money, is more important than fighting for what you are owed. If my mom were not around, I would have taken every available recourse to get my money from my sleazy brother-in-law, but I have to bite my tongue for a greater good right now (it's been 7 years that I have been sitting on this hot potato).

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                                                                                                                          • Pornkings
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                                                                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                            • 5334
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by BBWTori
                                                                                                                            You aren't the only BBW getting fucked on a daily basis Mina...
                                                                                                                            Trust me there are days I swear I should have nto even wasted the time and just grabbed my ankles...
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                                                                                                                              • Ironhorse
                                                                                                                                Pixel Pusher
                                                                                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                • 7094
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Coatsy
                                                                                                                                Just over a month ago a website came up for sale that I was very interested in buying, I contacted the webmaster who I had known for 4 maybe 5 years now. We quickly agreed a price (which I thought he was happy with) He agreed to take the site off the market so no one else could come in and buy it. He gave me his word that the site would be sold to me so we had a verbal contract.

                                                                                                                                Anyway the guy tells me I must have the money to him by friday (gave me 4 days) I had no problem with this, only problem is he wanted paypal and I wanted to use a secure service like an escrow.

                                                                                                                                Friday came and I get contacted by someone else who had shown interest in the site. Someone from this board infact who runs a very very large webmaster program. Anyways I explain the situation to him, telling him how we we had a virtual contract and payment was the only issue.

                                                                                                                                Anyway a week goes by without any contact from the seller (hes ignoring me) and then i find out a week later that the website has been sold to this other guy.

                                                                                                                                Now I didn't lose any money in this (thankfully) but I lost a great deal of time and I certainly felt fucked over considering that the the guy gave me his word and then to find out he went behind my back to sell the site to someone else
                                                                                                                                This doesn't really count, the guy clearly said he wanted paypal by friday and those were his terms, which you didn't meet, so he sold to another. Where's the problem here?
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                                                                                                                                  • toddler
                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                    • Jun 2002
                                                                                                                                    • 1911
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Intrigue
                                                                                                                                    I've been fucked over plenty of times, generally from clients who claim past programmers, etc... fucked them over, so they can't / won't pay in advance. Never for much cash, but the time is what cost me. Fuck that, anything now is 50% upfront unless i know 100% your good for it
                                                                                                                                    nailed it. its generally not the cash that that bothers me, I'll get more. Its the time expended that sends me into quiet rages. In my line of admin its almost always after the fact billing, unless I have an open account with someone that I trust.

                                                                                                                                    I've done 30+ hours of data reclamation and forensic work for people, (which isn't easy to do block by block), and had the client say 'oh, well, I don't need that data anymore' . Fuck that.
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                                                                                                                                      • Paul
                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                        • 2637
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                                                                                                        Get a signed contract ... always
                                                                                                                                        The lesson was well and truly learnt

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                                                                                                                                          • sherie
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                                                                                                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                            • 7020
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            I think that everyone has gotten fucked over in this business one way or another.

                                                                                                                                            My personal favorite is when past employee's bullshit as to why they were let go and try to fuck you over that way.
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                                                                                                                                              • shann
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                                                                                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                • 896
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Everyone has been fucked over that I can think of. Sad to say but every time I've been fucked over it's been about doing content referrals. The money seemed great, close the sale then BLAMMO commission goes from what could be a nice vacation $$$ to dinner for 2 at a 3 star. Weird how I fell for it twice. Weird how I have seen neither one of them ever again. Guess the shady fuckers fucked more than just me.

                                                                                                                                                Lying bastards.
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                                                                                                                                                  • chemicaleyes
                                                                                                                                                    UNSTOPPABLE
                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                    • 11569
                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    Only ever been fucked over once for 20k in a long-term biz deal that went wrong after years of running smoothly.
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                                                                                                                                                      • Azure Sales
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                                                                                                                                                        • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                                        • 170
                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        Shouldn't the real question be - who hasn't been fucked over?

                                                                                                                                                        Or

                                                                                                                                                        Did they kiss you first?
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                                                                                                                                                          • Trafficbrokercom
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                                                                                                                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                            • 542
                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            I was owed 200k by a dialer company ..

                                                                                                                                                            They paid 100k after a year and I am still waiting for the other 100k .. .

                                                                                                                                                            .................

                                                                                                                                                            nobody mentioned babenet yet ..

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                                                                                                                                                              • Turboface
                                                                                                                                                                Back in Black
                                                                                                                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                                • 9976
                                                                                                                                                                #90
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Herb Kornfield

                                                                                                                                                                The matter will be resolved as agreed.

                                                                                                                                                                This is the end of discussing this on a public forum.
                                                                                                                                                                Herb Kornfield, you are wrong about both things. This matter is and has not been resolved as agreed. You're just talking shit, as you have been for months now. If you sent me any money or even contacted me on ICQ (or even email) to make payment arrangements that would be fine, but you haven't done any of these things.

                                                                                                                                                                As far as this being the end of this being discussed on a public forum, you couldn't be more wrong. Tonight I will let everyone on here know how you conduct business.

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                                                                                                                                                                  • Morgan
                                                                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                    • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                                    • 10520
                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    I got hit pretty hard once.
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                                                                                                                                                                      • StarkReality
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                                                                                                                                                                        • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                        • 4444
                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Trafficbrokercom
                                                                                                                                                                        I was owed 200k by a dialer company ..

                                                                                                                                                                        They paid 100k after a year and I am still waiting for the other 100k .. .

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                                                                                                                                                                        nobody mentioned babenet yet ..
                                                                                                                                                                        Haha, ya, Babenet is a real classic. Their fake beast sites...girls posing next to animals

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                                                                                                                                                                          • biglou
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                            • 595
                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by jayeff
                                                                                                                                                                            That was a first the industry definitely didn't need and it was also the first time someone screwed over hundreds, maybe thousands of webmasters without even going out of business.
                                                                                                                                                                            I have heard that the actual # of webmasters screwed in The Great Ass Reaming of 2003 was over 4,000. As one of the reamed, I can tell you the worst part is that some great friendships were strained, and others completely destroyed, over this sick business. The worst part is that the fucked-over webmasters are too disjointed to file suit for their rebills. A nice class action against Laithe and Tim would set a great precendent in this business.

                                                                                                                                                                            An interesting point as that the ex-avs said that they needed to make these changes, or else they would go under. It would seem that there are quite a few AVS's that did not make nearly so radical a change, and survive to this day. Maybe, maybe Laithe and Tim truly are incompetent cock-suckers.
                                                                                                                                                                            Smutworks Soon... It returneth.

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