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It's Official, My ISP Is Blocking Nat Net

07-21-2004, 04:58 PM

The past couple of days I have had issues with some sites...

I have been having email issues the past couple of days too, so my girl got on the phone. (i am not able to connect to my mail server right now)

while my mail issue was not fixed, they relayed some info to me.

National-Net, is officially being blocked from Adelphia now.

roh roh.

this explains surfing isues, but I sense a world of hurt coming for Nat net folks.

reasoning? he said it has gotten so bad with toolbars and spyware that it is affecting their customers so bad they are doing major changes.

He said whatever reasons is Nat net is not complying.

woah...

anyone have info on this shit? this is straight from my ISP, and its going down as we speak.

i will not be able to get mail from nat net severs etc... major shit going down

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07-21-2004, 04:59 PM

thats fucked up. nat net rocks

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07-21-2004, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by brand0n
thats fucked up. nat net rocks

he said its full of spammers and spyware people and they dont comply.

this is straight from the horses mouth.

ADELPHIA IS BLOCKING NAT NET

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07-21-2004, 05:00 PM

Yeah this guy on the phone just told me all transmissions between adelphia and national net hosting will be blocked.

err edit: they ARE being blocked... he also said he wish he knew why, not that he would disclose it to me but he was very curious himself.

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07-21-2004, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
he said its full of spammers and spyware people and they dont comply.

this is straight from the horses mouth.

ADELPHIA IS BLOCKING NAT NET

They are?

I wonder if they're doing it on all CMTS's........
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07-21-2004, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by egonetworks
They are?

This is exactly what they said.

We drilled them asking, so we wont be able to even get emails from these people, it was confirmed.

I type in some Nat net sites and they load fine,... not sure,...

its being done now, the last couple of days sites have been acting funny

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07-21-2004, 05:03 PM

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07-21-2004, 05:04 PM

I thought this was fixed yesterday when Tony posted about it on the other board?

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07-21-2004, 05:04 PM

I get a lot of spam from sites that use nat net

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07-21-2004, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy
I thought this was fixed yesterday when Tony posted about it on the other board?

WG

other board?

All i know is that my girl just got off the phone with Adelphia.

i know nothing of Tony, or any other board man.

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07-21-2004, 05:05 PM

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he said its full of spammers and spyware people and they dont comply.

this is straight from the horses mouth.

ADELPHIA IS BLOCKING NAT NET

find a new isp
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07-21-2004, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
This is exactly what they said.

We drilled them asking, so we wont be able to even get emails from these people, it was confirmed.

I type in some Nat net sites and they load fine,... not sure,...

its being done now, the last couple of days sites have been acting funny

I'll check out the equipment that we manage for Adelphia tomorro when I'm in the office and see if I can see any traces of it.
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07-21-2004, 05:06 PM

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other board?

All i know is that my girl just got off the phone with Adelphia.

i know nothing of Tony, or any other board man.

Other board = JBM (Brad Shaw's board)
Tony = Head pimp at NatNet

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07-21-2004, 05:06 PM

Yeah this guy basically said that 3/4 of all customer service calls they get now are people with spyware trying to blame Adelphia. So basically they have had so many people cancel they are having to make huge changes.

He also said blocking nat net might not be permanent, if they comply with whatever the issue is? No clue.

He said its affected their customers that much, so now all they can do is block them.

Also that because of spammers spoofing adelphia emails AOL now blocks them all which sucks for their consumers.
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07-21-2004, 05:07 PM

They are doing the same thing down here... I saw a list of about 50 some hosts they completely blocked from their routers.
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07-21-2004, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by bringer
find a new isp
adelphias life is short if they start restricting users access

do you know how HUGE Adelphia is?

they are not restricting users, they are protecting users.

they said Nat net hosts spammers and spyware.

the guy said to protect our clients we are killing companies who do not comply.

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07-21-2004, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Other board = JBM (Brad Shaw's board)
Tony = Head pimp at NatNet

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well, Tony should know I was just told, Nat Net is currently being blocked.

this is all i know.

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07-21-2004, 05:09 PM

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07-21-2004, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
do you know how HUGE Adelphia is?

they are not restricting users, they are protecting users.

they said Nat net hosts spammers and spyware.

the guy said to protect our clients we are killing companies who do not comply.

i know how big they are
i also know that when users cant access websites because their isp is "protecting" them, they move on to something else. maybe instead of "protecting" them by blanket blocking, they should make tools to patch their users systems. or maybe make a info site that teachs their bonehead users how to block toolbars and spyware.

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07-21-2004, 05:09 PM

As for my email issues, its being fixed.

I wish you Nat Net guys luck, this one may sting.

Adelphia is a very large provider this way... I know if its affecting me, it will definitely be afffecting your surfers.

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07-21-2004, 05:11 PM

damn that really sucks. But spyware and all that shit is out of control for sure. We see a ton of it at the computer store, 80% of our fixes/repairs are from spyware/viruses
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07-21-2004, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by bringer
i know how big they are
i also know that when users cant access websites because their isp is "protecting" them, they move on to something else. maybe instead of "protecting" them by blanket blocking, they should make tools to patch their users systems. or maybe make a info site that teachs their bonehead users how to block toolbars and spyware.

dude we are talking about average surfers.

you should know your target audience more.

these people have nmo clue about spywae and shit.

the reason they said its being banned is because they are losing customers who claim they are being infected by Adelphia.

i agree fuck them for doing it, but they also said AOL has Adelphia emails blocked so things are very bad.

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07-21-2004, 05:12 PM

THIS IS IN NO WAY A BASH ON NAT NET.

I AM LOOKING OUT FOR SOME OF YOU.

i do business with tons of Nat Net users, I cant get your EMAIL TUILL THIS IS FIXED!!!

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07-21-2004, 05:15 PM

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dude we are talking about average surfers.

you should know your target audience more.

these people have nmo clue about spywae and shit.

the reason they said its being banned is because they are losing customers who claim they are being infected by Adelphia.

i agree fuck them for doing it, but they also said AOL has Adelphia emails blocked so things are very bad.

yeah, i know average surfers. maybe if they sent out a email with some sort of toolbar themselves, like googles, which blocked spyware and patched systems to protect from toolbars. isps shouldnt bully companys and tell them who they can host and what content can be hosted on their system. if they email their users and say "YOU MUST INSTALL THIS" then the idiots who cant protect themselve will be protected.

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07-21-2004, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by bringer
i know how big they are
i also know that when users cant access websites because their isp is "protecting" them, they move on to something else. maybe instead of "protecting" them by blanket blocking, they should make tools to patch their users systems. or maybe make a info site that teachs their bonehead users how to block toolbars and spyware.

wrong....

nat net needs to clean up there act.

Bet you will see more big guys doing stuff like this.

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07-21-2004, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by Sosa
damn that really sucks. But spyware and all that shit is out of control for sure. We see a ton of it at the computer store, 80% of our fixes/repairs are from spyware/viruses

Seriously this shit is crazy. This customer service guy just talked my ear off I swear. He said most of their calls are people with spyware, and even brand new customers are cancelling immediately because they think its Adelphia fucking up their computers.

Then he went on to tell me about some search engine company that tried to hire him to program a spyware toolbar (sound familiar) and he told them to fuck off because that shit is polluting the internet.

I wish these people spreading spyware would fucking realize if a consumer cannot even fucking surf the internet without fucking tech issues they sure as hell are not going to buy anything!!
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07-21-2004, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by jimmyf
wrong....

nat net needs to clean up there act.

Bet you will see more big guys doing stuff like this.

yeah, they should just give in to the big isps. you think this is the end? whats next? blocking companys for hosting porn? "we are protecting our users with children"

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07-21-2004, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by Sosa
damn that really sucks. But spyware and all that shit is out of control for sure. We see a ton of it at the computer store, 80% of our fixes/repairs are from spyware/viruses

I see the same crap, I do service calls sometimes for a few major ISP's and the majority of these calls are resualt of spyware and virus. People need to learn not to shit where you eat, you maybe making a bank installing toolbars but what happens when an ISP's start blocking all the major adult hosts.

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07-21-2004, 05:21 PM

it's about fucking time that an ISP took these issues seriously.
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07-21-2004, 05:24 PM

NatNet took care of this yesterday. A few of our users couldn't use StatsRemote because of the block. We contacted NatNet and they were already aware of it. About two hours later Adelphia removed the block. I doubt they will block them again just one day later.

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07-21-2004, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by bringer
yeah, they should just give in to the big isps. you think this is the end? whats next? blocking companys for hosting porn? "we are protecting our users with children"

hey sorry but right now I am thinking I am glad I don't host with Nat Net, because I would be COMPLETELY shut off from all of my sites. That would NOT be good!

This is not just consumers affected. We have been unable to receive business emails as well.

We will probably be switching isps eventually anyhow, but we have several computers and its going to be a pain in the ass.

However, if I had to hurry up and switch my ISP for some reason cause they were blocking the company I host with, it would fucking suck and probably cost valuable time and money.
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07-21-2004, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by bringer
yeah, they should just give in to the big isps. you think this is the end? whats next? blocking companys for hosting porn? "we are protecting our users with children"

you don't get man...

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07-21-2004, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by iwantchixx
it's about fucking time that an ISP took these issues seriously.

yep

I've been wondering what was going 2 happen.

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07-21-2004, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by jimmyf
you don't get man...

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07-21-2004, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by J B
NatNet took care of this yesterday. A few of our users couldn't use StatsRemote because of the block. We contacted NatNet and they were already aware of it. About two hours later Adelphia removed the block. I doubt they will block them again just one day later.

Here's the thread:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=328476

Thats all good, but this is not what the tech guy just relayed.

I wish you all the best, but this is not the message we were given.

I hope its true

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07-21-2004, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Thats all good, but this is not what the tech guy just relayed.

I wish you all the best, but this is not the message we were given.

I hope its true

Well, a few people contacted us yesterday because it didn't work for them. They all confirmed that it's working for them again. Maybe the tech guy you spoke with wasn't up-to-date.

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07-21-2004, 05:35 PM

So NatNet is a spammer and scammer haven? Interesting to know. Wasn't it once cho-opa? Or Candid by that matter?
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07-21-2004, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by J B
Well, a few people contacted us yesterday because it didn't work for them. They all confirmed that it's working for them again. Maybe the tech guy you spoke with wasn't up-to-date.

Hopefully, and I will acknowledge I have had issues with some Nat Net sites, mainly isnt Lightspeed Nat Net?

their stats were unavailable for me for a bit.

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07-21-2004, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by Equinox
So NatNet is a spammer and scammer haven? Interesting to know. Wasn't it once cho-opa? Or Candid by that matter?

This adelphia guy on the phone said he really had no idea why they were blocking them. Also that it could be temporary if they fix whatever went wrong. It could be all sorts of things he said.
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07-21-2004, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by Equinox
So NatNet is a spammer and scammer haven? Interesting to know...

If they were I don't think Adelphia would have removed the block so quickly. BTW here's Tony's reply from another board:

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...my name is Tony Morgan and I am with NationalNet, Inc.

Let me see if I can clear this up for you....yes, Adelphia started blocking NationalNet a while ago. Because Adelphia is such a small ISP we did not even notice it in our graphs. Research indicates that they are responsible for less than 1% of the users in the US and 0% of the users outside the US. One of our clients called in this morning and let us know what was going on, so we called Adelphia and spoke to them. We researched their issues and found it to be a Reseller for one of the largest sites on the internet that we happen to host. We agreed to speak with our client and they agreed to turn us back on. They said that it will be back on today or tonight. Like I said, it is so small noone will even notice it going or coming.

As for our Policy on spam...ask around and anyone will tell you that NationalNet is absolutely "NOT" notorious for hosting spammers. That is a crock and everyone knows it. Yes, we have had to terminate some accounts for spam, but we are not a haven at all and the spammers know it.

I do apologize to you for the inconvenience that you are experiencing because we do host some very large clients that I am sure you do business with but rest assured that we take things like this very seriously...this is why we host all of these people. If you feel like you need to ask questions or know anything about what is going on you can feel free to call us anytime, any day toll-free at 1.877.471.9075 and choose Option 1 for Tech Support. Our Support people are here 24x7x365 to answer your questions.

I must add that it is kind of ironic that Adelphia (the bankrupt ISP that's Owner is up on Fraud Charges) decides that it should eliminate spammers by blocking AOL, BellSouth, and NationalNet. I actually take it as a compliment to be mentioned in the same circles.

Again, sorry for the inconvenience.

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07-21-2004, 05:40 PM

Adelphia is far from a small ISP.

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07-21-2004, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by J B
If they were I don't think Adelphia would have removed the block so quickly.

well, I wonder if Adelphia actually did remove the block after reading Fletch's post, and yeah, I saw Tony's post yesterday too . . . doesn't mean it happened.
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07-21-2004, 05:43 PM

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Adelphia is far from a small ISP.

I know

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07-21-2004, 05:44 PM

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Adelphia is far from a small ISP.

Adelphia is huge here in the East, don't know about the west part of the US.
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07-21-2004, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by Equinox
Adelphia is huge here in the East, don't know about the west part of the US.

HUGE

they provide me with 400+ channels and cable modems.

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07-21-2004, 05:45 PM

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good luck.

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Adelphia is far from a small ISP.

I noticed that too as quite a few people contacted us yesterday...

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07-21-2004, 05:46 PM

Hey Guys...

This is all news to us. This was all resolved in about 2 hours yesterday and Adelphia even apologized to us about the whole mess.

I have my guys looking into it and will let you know what we come up with, but I doubt very seriouly they reapplied this block unless it was just a human error.

I will let you know what I find out.

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07-21-2004, 05:48 PM

could be as simple as this guy wasnt up to date.

but he talked my girls ear off.

i ALWAYS like for her to call, the guys flirt and give her inside info, i cant talk to customer service guys myself. My girl works them like surfers.

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07-21-2004, 05:48 PM

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HUGE

they provide me with 400+ channels and cable modems.

Enzite!!!

Enzite, hah!

Interesting to see that their traffic only takes up 1% of NatNet's nationwide traffic though.
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