Here is a VERY INTERESTING QUESTIOn reguarding 2257 and International passports..

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  • amacontent
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    • Feb 2003
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    #1

    Here is a VERY INTERESTING QUESTIOn reguarding 2257 and International passports..

    If I am reading correct and that International passports are no longer accepted unless the producer and talent records keeping is outside the USA...Is it safe to say that mainstream movie producers who produce blockbuster movies can no longer show nudity with an international female unless they reside in the USA.?? This I cannot believe will be let happen.
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  • simple simon
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    • Jan 2005
    • 854

    #2
    whats 2257?
    SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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    • Postmaster
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      • Feb 2005
      • 260

      #3
      Originally posted by simple simon
      whats 2257?
      lol 8chars
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      • Probono
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        • Oct 2002
        • 2731

        #4
        Last time I looked 2257 did not cover nudity.

        Sec 75.1 (c)(2)
        "matter intended for commercial distribution that contains a visual depiction of an actual human being engaged in actual sexually explicit conduct"

        Nudity alone does not qualify as sexually explicit conduct.

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        • Probono
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2002
          • 2731

          #5
          Except I think in Texas

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          • amacontent
            STANLEY CUP CHAMPION !
            • Feb 2003
            • 13022

            #6
            Originally posted by Probono
            Last time I looked 2257 did not cover nudity.

            Sec 75.1 (c)(2)
            "matter intended for commercial distribution that contains a visual depiction of an actual human being engaged in actual sexually explicit conduct"

            Nudity alone does not qualify as sexually explicit conduct.
            Dont you need proof of age for over 18 if you are nude
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            • Probono
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              • Oct 2002
              • 2731

              #7
              Originally posted by amacontent
              Dont you need proof of age for over 18 if you are nude

              Do not rest on my legal advice; ask you own lawyer. I would require ID and a release but I do not think it is covered by 18 USC 2257. Odd considering the intent of the law but nudity would cover a much broader spectrum as you have suggested. I think the stated intent is keeping underage people out of porn.

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              • Mr.Fiction
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                • Feb 2002
                • 9484

                #8
                Originally posted by amacontent
                Dont you need proof of age for over 18 if you are nude
                It is not necessarily illegal to take or show artistic or non-sexual nude pictures of children. If it was, then every person who had a naked picture of their baby would be arrested, as would many famous photographers.

                The 2257 law only covers sexually explicit content - not nudity.

                Regardless of what is legal in theory, you should obviously not be involved with distributing nude pictures of anyone under 18 if you are a U.S. citizen. Unless you enjoy prison.
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                • Mutt
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 34431

                  #9
                  open legged nudity where the model's genitalia aka the vagina, the beaver or the 'beave', the twat, the hairpie, the snatch, etc is on display is by the definition set out in 2257 - explicit and lascivious.


                  softcore nudity where the legs aren't spread open is not 'explicit'. Simulated explicit sex is also not subject to 2257 law. This gets 99% of mainstream movies off the hook.
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                  • TheDoc
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                    • Jul 2001
                    • 13827

                    #10
                    Originally posted by amacontent
                    If I am reading correct and that International passports are no longer accepted unless the producer and talent records keeping is outside the USA...Is it safe to say that mainstream movie producers who produce blockbuster movies can no longer show nudity with an international female unless they reside in the USA.?? This I cannot believe will be let happen.
                    The "picture ident card" is only needed when the model does not have a proper "identification document".


                    Identification Document is defined in 18 U.S.C 1028(d)
                    "The term 'identification document' means a document made or issued by or under the authority of the United States Government, a State, political subdivision of a State, a foreign government, political subdivision of a foreign government, an international governmental or an international quasi-governmental organization which, when completed with information concerning a particular individual, is of a type intended or commonly accepted for the purpose of identification of individuals."

                    So a "picture identification card" comes into play when the record holder does not have records that fall within the meaning of "identification document".
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                    • Paraskass
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                      • May 2002
                      • 5829

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Mutt
                      open legged nudity where the model's genitalia aka the vagina, the beaver or the 'beave', the twat, the hairpie, the snatch, etc is on display is by the definition set out in 2257 - explicit and lascivious.


                      softcore nudity where the legs aren't spread open is not 'explicit'. Simulated explicit sex is also not subject to 2257 law. This gets 99% of mainstream movies off the hook.

                      interesting. So pics of titties are ok.

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                      • Mutt
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 34431

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Paraskass
                        interesting. So pics of titties are ok.
                        yeah naked titties are fine as long as the model isn't doing too much with them - licking her titties would be 'explicit', not sure if she pulling on her nipples if that would be 'explicit' but i would guess they'd say it was.
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                        • DWB
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 31779

                          #13
                          A passport is goverment issued ID... they will be fine. The wording I think is just kind of confusing on that.

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                          • latinasojourn
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 3191

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mutt
                            open legged nudity where the model's genitalia aka the vagina, the beaver or the 'beave', the twat, the hairpie, the snatch, etc is on display is by the definition set out in 2257 - explicit and lascivious.

                            can anyone please show the text on this? can't find it.

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                            • TheDoc
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 13827

                              #15
                              2256
                              (2) ?sexually explicit conduct? means actual or simulated?
                              (A) sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex;
                              (B) bestiality;
                              (C) masturbation;
                              (D) sadistic or masochistic abuse; or
                              (E) lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person;
                              ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
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