Originally posted by sextoyking I say Rick fucked up at first, but then showed he was gracious and told Tony and Natnet Sorry.
more than that
first we get the flaming cat - and all the controversy there. personally i was disgusted by it but after thinking about it and reading rick comments i came to SOMEWHAT agree with him.
then the trogan stuff happened - then the accusing, then finding the real culprit - then appologising, and all the crap around this...
today was rick latona's day on gfy, and i think he came out on top. he stood up for what he believed in, and he fucked up, but more than anything he showed he was human and in the end his true colors came out and they looked pretty good.
i was impressed. I'm assuming his blood pressure must have gone though the roof at some points though......
This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
first we get the flaming cat - and all the controversy there. personally i was disgusted by it but after thinking about it and reading rick comments i came to SOMEWHAT agree with him.
then the trogan stuff happened - then the accusing, then finding the real culprit - then appologising, and all the crap around this...
today was rick latona's day on gfy, and i think he came out on top. he stood up for what he believed in, and he fucked up, but more than anything he showed he was human and in the end his true colors came out and they looked pretty good.
i was impressed. I'm assuming his blood pressure must have gone though the roof at some points though......
Is that all? Damn, I thought it was more than that with all the threads.
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Originally posted by SleazyDream the good
the bad
the ugly
i'd say he came out on top
Am I the only one that notices that Sleazy talks positively about anyone that he perceives as making more money than him and negatively about anyone he perceives as making less money than him?
Originally posted by [Brian] Am I the only one that notices that Sleazy talks positively about anyone that he perceives as making more money than him and negatively about anyone he perceives as making less money than him?
what would make you think rick makes more money than me?
I'm also taller than he is and heavier too!
This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
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Originally posted by KRL Rick said what I think was a "for real" "Fuck You KRL" to me in one of the threads.
Luckily I have a good sense of humor.
I was going to invoice you for my lost productivity today but I think I'll now invoice Lensman for services rendered.
I don't see what you had to gain by attacking me but I'll forgive you if you forgive me.
You and I had a phone call on the very subject of what lines to cross a couple of months ago. I told you repeatedly that jugements can't be made. I told you over and over that our stance was to post it all and that the only things that we wouldn't post are those items that are either illegal or boring. This entire conversation came up while you and I were trying to start a business together on this very subject!
I was more than surprised to wake up and find a thread titled, "Rick > is there no line at all that CJ won't cross?"
I had been attacked all night while sleeping and woke to this. My day has gone downhill since.
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Originally posted by Rick Latona I was going to invoice you for my lost productivity today but I think I'll now invoice Lensman for services rendered.
I don't see what you had to gain by attacking me but I'll forgive you if you forgive me.
You and I had a phone call on the very subject of what lines to cross a couple of months ago. I told you repeatedly that jugements can't be made. I told you over and over that our stance was to post it all and that the only things that we wouldn't post are those items that are either illegal or boring. This entire conversation came up while you and I were trying to start a business together on this very subject!
I was more than surprised to wake up and find a thread titled, "Rick > is there no line at all that CJ won't cross?"
I had been attacked all night while sleeping and woke to this. My day has gone downhill since.
My intent was not to attack you Rick. I didn't even start the fucking cat threads. I just posted one to clarify something I couldn't believe I was seeing being promoted in an entertainment style on your site.
I know we discussed the issue of limits on doing a joint venture on that site deal. I understand why you couldn't agree to where the line would be drawn. I hope you understand why I couldn't do that deal without a line being drawn. No hard feelings. It would have been a huge moneymaker I'm sure. I probably passed on over a million dollars long term by deciding as I did.
But I worry about stuff like that. I know you don't and that's your right. I don't need or want the aggravation and hassles of pushing the line anymore. You're young. I'm old. I did that in my 20's like you, made a lot of money but ended up getting an AG knocking on my door and wanting to nail me with $75,000 a day obscenity fines for every day we didn't comply with their C & D order. Fuck that bullshit. Fuck worrying about religious freaks protesting with big signs outside your home telling all your neighbors you're in the porn biz.
After that experience, I went low key and came to the conclusion it is wiser to have lines in business. The downside of really pushing the limits on things can be a very expensive process and cause a lot of damage to one's business, reputation, and straddle you with ridiculous legal expenses defending yourself. I was so visible in adult years back we'd get all sorts of religious weirdos mailing us death threats and hate mail. And our stuff was mild compared to todays stuff.
Yeh I forgive you, but all I'm asking is at least taper down the entertainment style in which its being presented. I read 11 pages of posts on your CJ Forum. A lot of your long time CJ fans even said that was over the line. There was one loose canon that was trying to start a campaign to e-mail all the adult sites that advertiser on there. That amazed me. I'm sure your mailbox and Marc's were jam packed today and you really did have to evaluate this decision.
Just have a heart and at least get rid of the "Hot Pussy" line. The cat that got toasted at least deserves that bit of respect.
Peace. Life is short my friend. We all have to share this fucking planet together. And when you get older you realize its not all about grabbing the buck anyway you can.
Originally posted by KRL
Yeh I forgive you, but all I'm asking is at least taper down the entertainment style in which its being presented. I read 11 pages of posts on your CJ Forum. A lot of your long time CJ fans even said that was over the line. There was one loose canon that was trying to start a campaign to e-mail all the adult sites that advertiser on there. That amazed me. I'm sure your mailbox and Marc's were jam packed today and you really did have to evaluate this decision.
I didn't title the video and I stand by my team's decision. Also, people find out about CJ because of content like that and stay for the rest. You don't tell friends about videos of a kid wrecking his BMX bike and breaking his arm.
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Originally posted by Rick Latona I didn't title the video and I stand by my team's decision. Also, people find out about CJ because of content like that and stay for the rest. You don't tell friends about videos of a kid wrecking his BMX bike and breaking his arm.
Nothing will change at CJ.
Whatever, but from a business advice standpoint I can't see the benefits over the risks on that call.
I think that video is going to end up causing you a lot of dangerous attention from the extreme kind of animal rights whacko's out there and a lot of problems with government agencies as well when people start bringing that to their attention.
From reading your customer's posts in your forum the majority of your own fans were basically saying get rid of it. When your own customers are saying that, its wise to listen.
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