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  • seeric
    ..........
    • Aug 2004
    • 41917
    #51
    Originally posted by AaronM
    This is not a 3rd party record keeping thing. Customers maintain their records with the hard copy output. We simply educate the customers on how to properly handle things, give them the tools to do it, and make it a lot easier of a process. PLUS, they can retrieve the records from any Internet ready computer should the need arise.

    Trust me bro.....This has been very well thought out and it's currently under review by a 3rd attorney.

    gotcha. my bad for not reading the entire thread before posting.

    i'm sure that you are 100% ON TOP of your game anyhow.

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      • spewie
        Confirmed User
        • May 2003
        • 56
        #52
        Originally posted by AaronM
        You are thinking inside the box.

        The ability to print a hard copy is not limited to a physical piece of paper. Things can also be "printed" as a Acrobat (.pdf) file and then stored electronically.

        The new regs implemented a paperwork reduction act...Not a paperwork elimination act. I for one will still maintain hard copies in a file cabinet.
        thats what i was thinking

        aaronM, i have a question

        do you need to have the exact set of images or videos stored combined with the docs, or will the docs just itself do? If you do galleries and run thumbsites there is no chance in hell you will be able to have all sets of images submitted to your site stored with the docs... but if your new system works well, it WILL be possible to have all docs ....

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          • crockett
            in a van by the river
            • May 2003
            • 76818
            #53
            Originally posted by AaronM
            You are thinking inside the box.

            The ability to print a hard copy is not limited to a physical piece of paper. Things can also be "printed" as a Acrobat (.pdf) file and then stored electronically.

            The new regs implemented a paperwork reduction act...Not a paperwork elimination act. I for one will still maintain hard copies in a file cabinet.
            Ahh I gotta yea now.. I didn't think of PDF's
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              • NaughtyAce
                Traffic - Protect Content
                • Aug 2003
                • 1482
                #54
                Aaron,

                You are so very right.
                My advice to anyone is to read the legal documents yourself, not all the bs with people commenting, but first 29619 of the legal documents, thats where the actual changes are. Then from there you need to comply with everything so much that no one can question your motives.
                Whatever you don't understand or even question your understanding of, immediately call an attorney.
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                  • SKULL
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 1953
                    #55
                    Are two forms of ID really needed? I didn't see that in the new Regs...
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                      • AaronM
                        GFY Royality ;)
                        • Oct 2001
                        • 46917
                        #56
                        Originally posted by crockett
                        Ahh I gotta yea now.. I didn't think of PDF's

                        Like I said...We've put a lot of thought into this project.

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                          • AaronM
                            GFY Royality ;)
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 46917
                            #57
                            Originally posted by spewie
                            thats what i was thinking

                            aaronM, i have a question

                            do you need to have the exact set of images or videos stored combined with the docs, or will the docs just itself do? If you do galleries and run thumbsites there is no chance in hell you will be able to have all sets of images submitted to your site stored with the docs... but if your new system works well, it WILL be possible to have all docs ....

                            Sorry Spewie, I'm not giving any advice about this. As it stands, I am waiting to hear from attorneys about some of these very issues. The law is complex now and I am not leaving anything up to my own interpretations.

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                              • spewie
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2003
                                • 56
                                #58
                                Originally posted by AaronM
                                Sorry Spewie, I'm not giving any advice about this. As it stands, I am waiting to hear from attorneys about some of these very issues. The law is complex now and I am not leaving anything up to my own interpretations.
                                i understand mate

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                                  • AaronM
                                    GFY Royality ;)
                                    • Oct 2001
                                    • 46917
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by SKULL
                                    Are two forms of ID really needed? I didn't see that in the new Regs...

                                    No, only 1 is required if it fits the criteria. Many people request a second piece though. This is why we have included the Secondary Identification fields.

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                                      • pornguy
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Mar 2003
                                        • 62910
                                        #60
                                        Aaron, Please let us know when this is up and running. We will be using it as soon as we can to double check what we already have, and to augment that. It is a great system. If there is anything we can do to help, please let us know.
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                                          • MaDalton
                                            I am Amazing Content!
                                            • Feb 2004
                                            • 39861
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by AaronM
                                            No, only 1 is required if it fits the criteria. Many people request a second piece though. This is why we have included the Secondary Identification fields.

                                            and that surprised me the most - but it makes a lot of stuff i originally put away cause i thought i couldn't sell it suddenly very valuable again.

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                                              • galleryseek
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Mar 2002
                                                • 8234
                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by pornguy
                                                Aaron, Please let us know when this is up and running. We will be using it as soon as we can to double check what we already have, and to augment that. It is a great system. If there is anything we can do to help, please let us know.
                                                no, he's not going to let you know when it's up and running. he's going to wait around for awhile after it is completed, and let other people launch similar services first.

                                                you stupid bastard!

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                                                  • AaronM
                                                    GFY Royality ;)
                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                    • 46917
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by pornguy
                                                    Aaron, Please let us know when this is up and running. We will be using it as soon as we can to double check what we already have, and to augment that. It is a great system. If there is anything we can do to help, please let us know.

                                                    Anything?

                                                    You wanna cover my legal fees for this project?

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                                                      • pxxx
                                                        First African GFY Member
                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                        • 12114
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by AaronM
                                                        The biggest problem with 2257 compliance is the lack of education that the average webmaster has on the topic. Our product educates them first and foremost. Then it gives them a set of tools to streamline the process for them, along with step by step directions. When they are done, we gather all of the relevant info and give them the ability to output it in an easy to review and file way. This can be done electronically or with paper copies.
                                                        Wow Aaron, sounds great man.

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                                                          • Juicy D. Links
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                            • 122992
                                                            #65
                                                            looks JUICYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

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                                                              • StuartD
                                                                Sofa King Band
                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                • 29903
                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by ytcracker
                                                                aaron that looks pimp
                                                                Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
                                                                looks JUICYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
                                                                Thank you and thank you.
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                                                                  • darnit
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                    • 2439
                                                                    #67
                                                                    I love that webmaster use what they know best to nutralize threats. TECHLOLOGY and INNOVATION. The system looks fantastic . It would be great to see a broad based system that content producers could feed data into and WM's could pull out of.

                                                                    The electronic storage clause would certainly faciliatate that type of system -producers upload their dbs and wm's could download zips, pdfs etc as Aarons system allows by searching and selecting content in their portfolio - it could also notify wm automatically of new available content based on their purchassing habits thus adding an incentive for 2257 compliant clients to use the system (read more sales all fully integrated into the system).

                                                                    Anyway glad to see people using tech to the advantage of the community.

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                                                                      • aiken
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                                        • 204
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Aaron, would you ICQ me? 12005327.

                                                                        -b
                                                                        ICQ: 12005327

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                                                                          • Raven
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                            • 6874
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                            That depends on the final attorney review.

                                                                            Right now, the attorneys worth their salt are getting to the bottom of exactly what these new regs say. Once that is done, we will sit down together and review everything we are doing.

                                                                            I'll be honest with you, I don't expect to be the first to market with a solution for 2257 but I do expect to have one of the best solutions available. I'm not going to launch something half assed because if I fuck it up, many people will not even consider it after V2.0 fixes whatever was wrong. V2.0 will focus on additional features as we expect to nail the compliance requirements down the first time.

                                                                            Now, I've got to get back to work. If you wish to be contacted about this once it's ready, just leave a note here or hit me up on ICQ if you have my number. As you can imagine, I am very busy working on this since the new regs were posted...Plus I have other businesses to tend to as well as client orders to shoot and deliver.
                                                                            And, because of what Aaron says in this post, when he is ready, we will be at his door, check in hand....because he won't launch something half assed or non compliant.....he will make sure it is a worthy tool.
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                                                                              • latinasojourn
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                                • 3191
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                                What party of HARD COPY OUTPUT are you people not comprehending?

                                                                                All I am doing is supplying the tools to create and file what you need to comply with the law. You still maintain your data and files wherever you want and as such, YOU are the custodian of records.

                                                                                looks really nice.

                                                                                let's us know when it is ready for roll-out!

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                                                                                  • latinasojourn
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                                                    • 3191
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    can it do a server wide scan? ex: i code jpg names to a model id---can it scan every jpg on the server, and then cross reference every html page on which that jpg appears and build the database?

                                                                                    seems like this is the fast way to get it handled.

                                                                                    (not a geek, just thinking on this for a sec)

                                                                                    i applaud the effort

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                                                                                      • StuartD
                                                                                        Sofa King Band
                                                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                                                        • 29903
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by latinasojourn
                                                                                        can it do a server wide scan? ex: i code jpg names to a model id---can it scan every jpg on the server, and then cross reference every html page on which that jpg appears and build the database?

                                                                                        seems like this is the fast way to get it handled.

                                                                                        (not a geek, just thinking on this for a sec)

                                                                                        i applaud the effort
                                                                                        How do you propose that a script find 001.jpg and know to cross reference that image to Jane Doe's profile?

                                                                                        not mocking the idea, but I'd need to know how to have a script go through all the files in directories such as /home/mygalleries/J8Hs8fs9a/images/001.jpg and somehow know who's image that belongs to, in which set and from what date.

                                                                                        until I get specs to do this, I just can't come up with it.
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                                                                                          • latinasojourn
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                                                            • 3191
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by NichePay - StuartD
                                                                                            How do you propose that a script find 001.jpg and know to cross reference that image to Jane Doe's profile?

                                                                                            not mocking the idea, but I'd need to know how to have a script go through all the files in directories such as /home/mygalleries/J8Hs8fs9a/images/001.jpg and somehow know who's image that belongs to, in which set and from what date.

                                                                                            until I get specs to do this, I just can't come up with it.

                                                                                            well, as an example:

                                                                                            let's say you do a shoot and you name the model "jjal4" then every jpg you ever produce for this photo session this date is named jjal4-1.jpg, jjal4-2.jpg, etc. etc.

                                                                                            now how build your html pages with these (and presumably other) images, each jpg having a unique name linking it to a model ID.

                                                                                            now the script does multiple searches on your server, looking at the source code of the html files, and matches the jpg names to the html file.

                                                                                            am i missing something here, someone pick this idea apart. seems pretty fuckin' simple.

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                                                                                              • AaronM
                                                                                                GFY Royality ;)
                                                                                                • Oct 2001
                                                                                                • 46917
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Originally posted by NichePay - StuartD
                                                                                                How do you propose that a script find 001.jpg and know to cross reference that image to Jane Doe's profile?

                                                                                                not mocking the idea, but I'd need to know how to have a script go through all the files in directories such as /home/mygalleries/J8Hs8fs9a/images/001.jpg and somehow know who's image that belongs to, in which set and from what date.

                                                                                                until I get specs to do this, I just can't come up with it.


                                                                                                LOL...That means "No."

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                                                                                                  • AaronM
                                                                                                    GFY Royality ;)
                                                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                                                    • 46917
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by latinasojourn
                                                                                                    well, as an example:

                                                                                                    let's say you do a shoot and you name the model "jjal4" then every jpg you ever produce for this photo session this date is named jjal4-1.jpg, jjal4-2.jpg, etc. etc.

                                                                                                    now how build your html pages with these (and presumably other) images, each jpg having a unique name linking it to a model ID.

                                                                                                    now the script does multiple searches on your server, looking at the source code of the html files, and matches the jpg names to the html file.

                                                                                                    am i missing something here, someone pick this idea apart. seems pretty fuckin' simple.

                                                                                                    Actually, it's not simple at all. The reason it's way more complex than that is because there is no industry wide standard format for file and /or directory names and structures. Everybody does things a different way. As I see it, it is not possible simply because there are infinite ways of doing things.

                                                                                                    HOWEVER....I'm not a programmer....That's Stuart's area.

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                                                                                                      • AaronM
                                                                                                        GFY Royality ;)
                                                                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                                                                        • 46917
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        BTW....You may be onto something here for a future update. Not quite the way you are suggesting but your idea has given me some ideas.

                                                                                                        Thank you for your input.

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                                                                                                          • munki
                                                                                                            Do Fun Shit.
                                                                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                                                                            • 13393
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            It's plausible to program a user side image reference correct. Not an industry wide standard, but you should be able to write an interface that would collect the model name from user input, and the scour a server for reference points all from user input, and generate a link list for compliance...

                                                                                                            Just another 2 cents from the munki

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                                                                                                              • latinasojourn
                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                • 3191
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                look, just thinking off the top of my head.

                                                                                                                let's suppose that a guy produces his own content, and uses his own content on his own servers.

                                                                                                                there there's a several hundred thousand different images, and a hundreds of different models.

                                                                                                                IMO the most onerous part of the revised 2257 regs is the requirement that you setup a database providing a every URL for each image.

                                                                                                                not the model ID record-keeping per se, that is a piece a cake---it's finding FAST where EVERY URL is, that each image is on.

                                                                                                                now as a practical matter, the primary producer can visually identify the vast majority of his models.

                                                                                                                so just thinking now...

                                                                                                                suppose there was a utility that would scan every jpg on a server and then build a visual database something like thumbs4 for example.

                                                                                                                now the producer (who knows his models) can immediately see the people and put the images in separate folders.

                                                                                                                now he takes folder A which has been (fairly quickly visually sorted to a specific model) and has the script do a search on these jpg names within the server, and it compiles an html list of all the pages this particular model in on.

                                                                                                                i can see this in my mind, but i may not articulate it properly.

                                                                                                                this utility is a doable deal for a competent coder.

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                                                                                                                  • fusionx
                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                    • 4618
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                                                                    No, only 1 is required if it fits the criteria. Many people request a second piece though. This is why we have included the Secondary Identification fields.
                                                                                                                    I just read this:

                                                                                                                    J.D. Obenberger, principal in the Chicago law firm J.D. Obenberger & Associates, noticed a number of things ?sidestepped? by the Justice Department when it drafted the final regulations. Obenberger went so far as to call the issues ?ignored.? Among them is the economic burden imposed on Web cam operators by the requirement that they archive and include with their records a copy of every live broadcast. The legality of collecting and filing multiple, redundant IDs ? often encouraged when dealing with new models ? is another gray area Obenberger feels should have been addressed for the benefit of both the adult industry and the government. ?Producers are prohibited by law from having more than one form of ID with any one record,? Obenberger says. ?You can go to jail for [violating] that. It just makes sense for a producer to copy more than one ID, because [an underage] girl might have a fake driver?s license saying she?s 21, but it?s unlikely she?d have two IDs that match.?


                                                                                                                    No idea if it's valid, but as an FYI...

                                                                                                                    Here's the source:

                                                                                                                    http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...tent_ID=227704

                                                                                                                    9th paragraph down

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                                                                                                                      • fusionx
                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                        • 4618
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by latinasojourn
                                                                                                                        well, as an example:

                                                                                                                        let's say you do a shoot and you name the model "jjal4" then every jpg you ever produce for this photo session this date is named jjal4-1.jpg, jjal4-2.jpg, etc. etc.

                                                                                                                        now how build your html pages with these (and presumably other) images, each jpg having a unique name linking it to a model ID.

                                                                                                                        now the script does multiple searches on your server, looking at the source code of the html files, and matches the jpg names to the html file.

                                                                                                                        am i missing something here, someone pick this idea apart. seems pretty fuckin' simple.
                                                                                                                        Use the EXIF or IPTC info that is stored within the JPEG image. Software can easily read the data during a scan.

                                                                                                                        Every JPEG can contain it's own data linking back to a database.

                                                                                                                        Unfortunately, GIF doesn't support this.. but who cares about gifs anyway

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                                                                                                                          • latinasojourn
                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                            • 3191
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by fusionx
                                                                                                                            Use the EXIF or IPTC info that is stored within the JPEG image. Software can easily read the data during a scan.

                                                                                                                            Every JPEG can contain it's own data linking back to a database.

                                                                                                                            Unfortunately, GIF doesn't support this.. but who cares about gifs anyway

                                                                                                                            yes, thanks for reminding me of that.

                                                                                                                            breezebrowser can do a sort like that i think.

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                                                                                                                              • jonesy
                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                • 6688
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Aaron

                                                                                                                                showed your screen shot of your 2257 software and the thread to a few friends in the progaming field tonight just to get a heads up - got a very detailed one - gotta tell ya man im impressed.
                                                                                                                                Last edited by jonesy; 05-25-2005, 09:10 PM.
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                                                                                                                                  • ronaldo
                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                    • 5475
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by fusionx
                                                                                                                                    I just read this:

                                                                                                                                    J.D. Obenberger, principal in the Chicago law firm J.D. Obenberger & Associates, noticed a number of things ?sidestepped? by the Justice Department when it drafted the final regulations. Obenberger went so far as to call the issues ?ignored.? Among them is the economic burden imposed on Web cam operators by the requirement that they archive and include with their records a copy of every live broadcast. The legality of collecting and filing multiple, redundant IDs ? often encouraged when dealing with new models ? is another gray area Obenberger feels should have been addressed for the benefit of both the adult industry and the government. ?Producers are prohibited by law from having more than one form of ID with any one record,? Obenberger says. ?You can go to jail for [violating] that. It just makes sense for a producer to copy more than one ID, because [an underage] girl might have a fake driver?s license saying she?s 21, but it?s unlikely she?d have two IDs that match.?


                                                                                                                                    No idea if it's valid, but as an FYI...

                                                                                                                                    Here's the source:

                                                                                                                                    http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...tent_ID=227704

                                                                                                                                    9th paragraph down
                                                                                                                                    WTF??? Do I read this correctly?

                                                                                                                                    ?Producers are prohibited by law from having more than one form of ID with any one record,? Obenberger says. ?You can go to jail for [violating] that. It just makes sense for a producer to copy more than one ID, because [an underage] girl might have a fake driver?s license saying she?s 21, but it?s unlikely she?d have two IDs that match.?

                                                                                                                                    So, a producer protects himself by ensuring that the model is of LEGAL age (what these new 2257 regulations are meant to do, mind you) by getting more than one piece of ID, and THAT is against the law?

                                                                                                                                    If I read that correctly, than that really shows where the DOJ's mindset really is. Just in case you had any question about it.

                                                                                                                                    BTW, your idea looks good Aaron. You'll make your money back in NO time if you so choose.

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                                                                                                                                      • AaronM
                                                                                                                                        GFY Royality ;)
                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                        • 46917
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by jonesy
                                                                                                                                        Aaron

                                                                                                                                        showed your screen shot of your 2257 software and the thread to a few friends in the progaming field tonight just to get a heads up - got a very detailed one - gotta tell ya man im impressed.

                                                                                                                                        Thank you....But I have to give credit where credit is due.

                                                                                                                                        I have had a lot of input from others about this. I combined their input with my ideas and handed it over to Stuart.

                                                                                                                                        He's the brains of this operation.

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                                                                                                                                          • jonesy
                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                            • 6688
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                                                                                            Thank you....But I have to give credit where credit is due.

                                                                                                                                            I have had a lot of input from others about this. I combined their input with my ideas and handed it over to Stuart.

                                                                                                                                            He's the brains of this operation.
                                                                                                                                            i shouldve mentioned your crew also .

                                                                                                                                            posting those screenshots tells me a lot about you aaron and it changed my perception of you and im not talking about your ball breaking board persona

                                                                                                                                            coming up with the idea back when talk of changes to 2257 were first made public, (which was how long ago?) is what really impressed me.
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                                                                                                                                              • StuartD
                                                                                                                                                Sofa King Band
                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                • 29903
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                                                                                                Thank you....But I have to give credit where credit is due.

                                                                                                                                                I have had a lot of input from others about this. I combined their input with my ideas and handed it over to Stuart.

                                                                                                                                                He's the brains of this operation.
                                                                                                                                                hehe... thanks, but I'm just a piece of the pie. There's no way in hell I could have scripted anything even close to compliant on my own.
                                                                                                                                                As I said before, I just follow directions well
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                                                                                                                                                  • Matt_WildCash
                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                    • 1699
                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    AaronM hit me up matt at wildcash.com when you have your solution setup sounds good so far, as long as price isn't overly expensive sounds like a nice service

                                                                                                                                                    Try the New XMovies.com and make more $$$ with your Traffic

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                                                                                                                                                      • Taboo
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                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                                        • 3700
                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        <------------------------------
                                                                                                                                                        Aaron, put me on your waiting list - very nice setup. kudos to you and Stuart.

                                                                                                                                                        and Thanks to galleryseek for creating this thread.

                                                                                                                                                        hopefully the MODS can rename the title to 2257 so we can all search for this thread when search comes back.

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                                                                                                                                                          • pornguy
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