Zebra is 100 % true. It took you forever to get my checks to me and half of the time they bounced.
(?The bank fucked up?.) We all have heard that one from you.
Here is a clue JEFF if there isn?t money in your Account don?t write the fucking check.
Scooter... dude. you are lieing! We had one check returned. One. Sucked, should not have happened, but it was the week we sent you to the Vancouver show. The minute I find out (your wife called me) I went to the bank and wired the money into yoru account. Nearly every time we paid you was by bank wire also. I have all the dates, amounts and times of these wires. Please present proof that half of your checks bounced. This I have to see. The only time you had to wait beyond a day for your money was at the very end and that was about a week. It sucked yeah.. for you and me both, but the other option was to not pay you at all. I followed through and did as I promised. We sold off part of the company to make sure you and everyone else got paid. You know that.
Show me otherwise. Prove to me that you didnt get paid, that "half" of the checks bounced and that you waited weeks for your money as you claim. You wont, because you cant. All you have is your name callling now and then. Thats fine.. no worries there, but make sure you are telling the exact truth on these payment issues. I know which check came back.... there was 1 and it was taken care of, including your bank fees within hours of finding out it happened.
Please, by all means, present some proof otherwise. You can not. Its cool though... given the situation I understand why you would be upset.
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You are one slick talking fucker and I bet you hope all these noobies are sucking it up. You claim that everyone was finally paid and that all these people just ganged up on you one day, shitting all over your "Good Name." But the facts you AREN'T talking about is when the shit went down and all the people stepped forward, they were telling the TRUTH and your remedy was not immediate. As Zebra said, many many bounced checks, promises, wire transfers and mail that mysteriously got lost. It was well after you dissappeared and PK payed off all your debts for you MONTHS after the initial implosion. So your right, probably is no more proof now that PK came in and cleaned up your shit. I can't believe you even have the balls to come back here and post, always throwing We's and PK's name around like you now have some credibilty and clout. You were found to be a piece of shit then and your still a piece of shit now, regardless of who you are standing behind. Those who ride coat tails are bound to fall off sooner or later. Your not fooling anyone, your never gonna make things good with anyone and your never gonna shake this rap. If you wanted to do that, you would have came clean and admitted you did some dirty shit and yes you lied for such and such reasons. Hell you lie so well you probably have yourself convinced that it's all true and that everyone really IS out to get you.
How many checks have bounced from perfection jeff?
Im sure I would not be able to count them on my 2 hands.
Also, isn't it against the law to bounce checks in the us?
You are one slick talking fucker and I bet you hope all these noobies are sucking it up. You claim that everyone was finally paid and that all these people just ganged up on you one day, shitting all over your "Good Name." But the facts you AREN'T talking about is when the shit went down and all the people stepped forward, they were telling the TRUTH and your remedy was not immediate. As Zebra said, many many bounced checks, promises, wire transfers and mail that mysteriously got lost. It was well after you dissappeared and PK payed off all your debts for you MONTHS after the initial implosion. So your right, probably is no more proof now that PK came in and cleaned up your shit. I can't believe you even have the balls to come back here and post, always throwing We's and PK's name around like you now have some credibilty and clout. You were found to be a piece of shit then and your still a piece of shit now, regardless of who you are standing behind. Those who ride coat tails are bound to fall off sooner or later. Your not fooling anyone, your never gonna make things good with anyone and your never gonna shake this rap. If you wanted to do that, you would have came clean and admitted you did some dirty shit and yes you lied for such and such reasons. Hell you lie so well you probably have yourself convinced that it's all true and that everyone really IS out to get you.
Awwww saved your first post for me.... Im flattered.
1.) PK never paid one of my debts.
2.) I did not hide for months... been here running the program and shooting content the whole time. ICQ never went off.
3.) Im not standing behind a sole. Dont need to.
4.) I did admit there was mistakes, then and now.
5.) Nothing to lie about.
6.) Who would make a post (their 1st post) other then someone with an agenda.
Please...
The sites convert. You will bank. We pay all rebills forever (check the ccbill stats in the affiliate admin). You will get paid, everytime, on time. If you dont, I will conceed and shut the whole thing down.
Prove me wrong.... I dare ya
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Originally posted by PerfectionGirls Please tell me who you think I ripped off? Everyone with the exception of Rowen (waiting for him to contact us with his wire info) has been paid in full. Everybody!
If you have proof of something otherwise.... please post it. All debts are paid and accounts settled.
Zebra is say he would forget the $60 debt in a thread a few but I would be happy to send it along.
the company that bought you out paid the debts right? Either way, you're still an irresponsible scum sucking waste of bandwidth
iceicebaby? "I will post my stats based on the way he wants me to promote his sites."
If you have to promote it "his way" doesn't that raise any red flags?
This is gay. Put your traffic to someone decent that you don;t have to promote "their way" to see results.
What is "his" way anyhow? "His" way has involved stealing from webmasters before, does "his" way this time mean stealing from surfers? FIll us in on "his" way.
How many checks have bounced from perfection jeff?
Five... the whole of last year. I can name each one and who it was to. It sucked, yep, but we made good on them and fixed the issues.
BTW... PK has nothing to do with my program expect to have my sites in there program. Thats it. They have nothing to do with what went on then or now. Two seperate issues and situations.
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What is "his" way anyhow? "His" way has involved stealing from webmasters before, does "his" way this time mean stealing from surfers? FIll us in on "his" way.
I never gave him a way that he could promote our program. He gave me a list of the ways he sends traffic and I agreed. Based on what he told me I have no worries about how his traffic will come in. I mean if he is sending milf traffic to teen sites... then yeah... it aint going to convert, but based on everything Ice told me... he traffic, tgps, free sites and what have you.... is just fine.
I made no stipulations on the traffic other then it to be within our niche. Seems fair to me. I
ce.. is this not what we dicussed?
the company that bought you out paid the debts right? Either way, you're still an irresponsible scum sucking waste of bandwidth
I paid my debts... no one else did. No one bailed me out. I paid them and wrote the checks and did the bank wires myself. If it was not handled that way.. other arrangments were made, but either way, they were paid and paid by me.
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Originally posted by PerfectionGirls The sites convert. You will bank. We pay all rebills forever (check the ccbill stats in the affiliate admin). You will get paid, everytime, on time. If you dont, I will conceed and shut the whole thing down.
Prove me wrong.... I dare ya
Yeah because now that your under contract you have to watch your p's and q's. Thats why you wanted everyone you fucked to quiet down so you could get your deal done before the buyers found out about everything. THATS the reason why you kept the deal so hush hush. I bet if PK's knew who they were getting into bed with they would have bailed, in a previous thread they admitted to knowing nothing of all your past troubles. If you would have run your program HONEST and RIGHT the first time you wouldn't even been in this mess and you never would have had all those people pissed off at you.
Originally posted by doober How many checks have bounced from perfection jeff?
Im sure I would not be able to count them on my 2 hands.
Also, isn't it against the law to bounce checks in the us?
Yes it is illegal, just ask him about the NSF charges...
Originally posted by iwantchixx the company that bought you out paid the debts right? Either way, you're still an irresponsible scum sucking waste of bandwidth
iceicebaby? "I will post my stats based on the way he wants me to promote his sites."
If you have to promote it "his way" doesn't that raise any red flags?
This is gay. Put your traffic to someone decent that you don;t have to promote "their way" to see results.
What is "his" way anyhow? "His" way has involved stealing from webmasters before, does "his" way this time mean stealing from surfers? FIll us in on "his" way.
I always ask my affiliate reps how to convert their sites best based on my traffic. I am giving Jeff a chance to back his 1:10 figure... nothing more nothing less.
I do send my traffic to solid sponsors and have never fucked a sponsor or surfer to make money... The worse thing I have ever done was send "some" traffic to adstats and I got fucked
Say what you like man. Really. It would carry alot more weight if you were not hiding behind some new name, but ok. You seem to know alot about me. Just hit me up on icq or give me a call. Glad to address your concerns.
We have admited there were mistakes made. No questions there. But we have gone out of our way to make good on them and get going in the right direction.
So heres the deal.... we are in it for the long haul. If we are lieing and ripping people off.... if models are not getting paid and checks are bouncing and webmasters are getting scammed it will be made known here.... as it has been in the past.
As of now, we are moving forward with tons of new stuff. New sites, new contest, tons of new content and everything a solid revshare program needs to succeed.
Dont like me, cool you dont have to send me traffic or talk to me at all. Its cool, I wont be offended.
The facts remain, the sites are rock solid, they convert, we pay, rebills are set for forever and thats it.
Time will tell...if I am full of shit I will be gone in 6 months.
Thanks and enjoy your evening all.
Oh.. by the way.... click the sig... I dare you to make money with Perfection Girls
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Originally posted by PerfectionGirls Look Pornmaster...
Say what you like man. Really. It would carry alot more weight if you were not hiding behind some new name, but ok.
Loryn (3:16 PM):
I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before
Yeah.... no kidding and he saved his first 4 post for me.
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Originally posted by PerfectionGirls Five... the whole of last year. I can name each one and who it was to. It sucked, yep, but we made good on them and fixed the issues.
BTW... PK has nothing to do with my program expect to have my sites in there program. Thats it. They have nothing to do with what went on then or now. Two seperate issues and situations.
Intersting about PK role. So you are still in control paying models and designers. If that is the case, sorry no traffic to you.
Originally posted by Pornkings Have you evey sent Pornkings any traffic or done any business with us before?
If anyone is unhappy with there conversions post them now!
I want everyone to see how Pornkings.com converts.
To be honest, no I have not. Only heard good things about pornkings, but I refuse to do any business with you guys when you support a cheater like that and I think I'm not alone... Sorry Roger
Originally posted by Paparazzi To be honest, no I have not. Only heard good things about pornkings, but I refuse to do any business with you guys when you support a cheater like that and I think I'm not alone... Sorry Roger
Understood.
But I really think you believed the hype of gfy over the truth.
And Jeff doesn't have anyhting to do with the sites in Pornkings program other then shooting the girls. if thats the problem then I feel for you and I hope you continue to do well.
Originally posted by slapass Good enough for me. Pornkings has paid me every month for over a year. Not sure why you hooked up with this guy but I trust Pornkings.
I hook up with anyone who will make me and my affiliates more money.
I'm not here to bullshit around.
I'm here to make everyone money.
Jeff fell on hard times like 100's of other programs and webmasters I've seen come and go since 96.
Originally posted by Pornkings
But I really think you believed the hype of gfy over the truth.
There was undeniable proof of things proffessed of Jeff. I understand you have an image and company to protect so you'll spin it against the truth. Understood. But don't think we are that stupid to think you actually mean that.
Originally posted by iwantchixx There was undeniable proof of things proffessed of Jeff. I understand you have an image and company to protect so you'll spin it against the truth. Understood. But don't think we are that stupid to think you actually mean that.
Believe what you want.
that was then this is now. Pornkings pays and we convert.
Post your stats if you are unhappy or didn't get paid.
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