Its the best thing that happened in a long time.
I just love the new 2257 regulations
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Ones ran by US webmasters only.Originally posted by xxxdesign-netArent you a big fan of teen thumb TGPs..? Alot of them might go belly-up...
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Got us sponsors?
got us hosting?
get paid by us payment processors?
accept submissions from us webmasters?
buy content from us producers?
Any part of your business trail touches the US?
Any of these things (and many more) enter you into a contract to commercially producer and distribute sexual images. You can run but you cannot hide... the rules apply.Comment
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If you are hosting outside of USA, use non-USA biller, don't live in the USA and don't use a USA based corp, all the above you can do ...Originally posted by RawAlexGot us sponsors?
got us hosting?
get paid by us payment processors?
accept submissions from us webmasters?
buy content from us producers?
Any part of your business trail touches the US?
Any of these things (and many more) enter you into a contract to commercially producer and distribute sexual images. You can run but you cannot hide... the rules apply.
I can buy today and tomorrow photos and/or videos without the 2257 if I am not American as above ...
As much as I can sell the same without the 2257 to US webmasters. Not illegal for me, but for the buyer to display them ...
Anyway, at least, it is going to prevent childporn ....
I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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Originally posted by Franck
Its the best thing that happened in a long time.
The less free porn the better
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Originally posted by RawAlexbuy content from us producers?
Can you elaborate on that..? If I bought some content for a US producer but didnt get all the documentation.. For the 2257, I basically refer to the adress of the producer, etc... As a non-US webmaster.. how the new 2257 regulations affect me on this.. ?Comment
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Originally posted by RawAlexget paid by us payment processors?
Can you also quote where in the new 2257 regulations this is adressed..?Comment
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You operate a site out of the US and completely clear of the US. Who will prevent you of "publishing" a set of pictures of a model without 2257 ????Originally posted by xxxdesign-netCan you elaborate on that..? If I bought some content for a US producer but didnt get all the documentation.. For the 2257, I basically refer to the adress of the producer, etc... As a non-US webmaster.. how the new 2257 regulations affect me on this.. ?
The only time a foreigner can really get in trouble is if the models looks like under 18 and IS under 18. Naturally, in such a case , documents are a part of the defense.
I can tell you I refused to shoot a girl that looked like 14 , even tough she insisted and showed me what seemed to be legitimate documents... But it was not worth the heat and the risk.
As for CC processors, when Visa reviews the site, they checked for the 2257 presence. Now, they will check a bit more ...I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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hey btw how are the new 2257 rules different than the ones from few months ago?
few months ago also everyone said it's the end of the world and nothing happenedI don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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Originally posted by directfiestaYou operate a site out of the US and completely clear of the US. Who will prevent you of "publishing" a set of pictures of a model without 2257 ????
No but my main concern is.. can the US producer tell me my license is not valid anymore because he now needs to somehow have all his clients to follow the new 2257 regs..? Guess that will happen after june 23rd 2005.. but as I understand.. it shouldnt matter.. if the content was shot prior to that right.. ?Comment
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Visa and MC will cut a foreign site down in a second if the fed's question their 2257 records. Not be a downer or anything but this appears to be the point to me. The feds know the industry will fall to shit once Visa & MC crack down on who they do business for/with.Comment
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Because they were just PROPSOALS then. in 30 days from TODAY the are LAW.Originally posted by polish_aristocrathey btw how are the new 2257 rules different than the ones from few months ago?
few months ago also everyone said it's the end of the world and nothing happened
Hope you got all your models IDs and have them cross refenced for every url they appear on. Don't forget he descriptions.Comment
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The "primary" producer has to supply to US BASED sites the docs. He has no obligation to supply Foreign based sites with those documents if he does not wish to. The USA gov cannot come and arrest him because he did not supply to a Russian based site the 2257 ...Originally posted by xxxdesign-netNo but my main concern is.. can the US producer tell me my license is not valid anymore because he now needs to somehow have all his clients to follow the new 2257 regs..? Guess that will happen after june 23rd 2005.. but as I understand.. it shouldnt matter.. if the content was shot prior to that right.. ?
Naturally, it is a good idea to ask and have them, if only to show that he actually owns the content you are buying ....
This before and/or after June 23rd. 2005I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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Not if you process out of the USA zone. 2257 are nothing out of the USA.Originally posted by YankBroVisa and MC will cut a foreign site down in a second if the fed's question their 2257 records. Not be a downer or anything but this appears to be the point to me. The feds know the industry will fall to shit once Visa & MC crack down on who they do business for/with.I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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VISA EUOriginally posted by YankBroVisa and MC will cut a foreign site down in a second if the fed's question their 2257 records. Not be a downer or anything but this appears to be the point to me. The feds know the industry will fall to shit once Visa & MC crack down on who they do business for/with.
VISA USA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VISA
IIRC, there is no $750 fee for EU sites?Comment
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FOR ALL OF YOU WHO THOUGHT BEING OVERSEAS MEANT THAT 2257 DIDN'T APPLY TO YOU:
"The rule is no different from other forms of labeling requirements imposed on foreign producers of, e.g., alcohol, tobacco, or food items that are imported into the United States. In order to sell in the U.S. market, foreign producers must comply with U.S. laws. This rule applies equally to any sexually explicit material introduced into the stream of commerce in the United States no matter where it was produced.
Foreign producers have the option of not complying with the rule, but then their access to the U.S. market is justly and lawfully prohibited."Comment
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I think that's for foreign producers who want to sell their content to US sponsors, i.e. not affiliate webmasters.Originally posted by JohnWFOR ALL OF YOU WHO THOUGHT BEING OVERSEAS MEANT THAT 2257 DIDN'T APPLY TO YOU:
"The rule is no different from other forms of labeling requirements imposed on foreign producers of, e.g., alcohol, tobacco, or food items that are imported into the United States. In order to sell in the U.S. market, foreign producers must comply with U.S. laws. This rule applies equally to any sexually explicit material introduced into the stream of commerce in the United States no matter where it was produced.
Foreign producers have the option of not complying with the rule, but then their access to the U.S. market is justly and lawfully prohibited."Comment
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Originally posted by JohnWFOR ALL OF YOU WHO THOUGHT BEING OVERSEAS MEANT THAT 2257 DIDN'T APPLY TO YOU:
"The rule is no different from other forms of labeling requirements imposed on foreign producers of, e.g., alcohol, tobacco, or food items that are imported into the United States. In order to sell in the U.S. market, foreign producers must comply with U.S. laws. This rule applies equally to any sexually explicit material introduced into the stream of commerce in the United States no matter where it was produced.
Foreign producers have the option of not complying with the rule, but then their access to the U.S. market is justly and lawfully prohibited."
uh... If a US surfer comes to my canadian site hosted on a non-US server.. Im importing nothing into the US.. THe US surfer comes to ME...! Like 18yo americans can buy beer in Canada..,
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For producers. Same would apply as an example to americans selling goods into Canada:Originally posted by JohnWFOR ALL OF YOU WHO THOUGHT BEING OVERSEAS MEANT THAT 2257 DIDN'T APPLY TO YOU:
"The rule is no different from other forms of labeling requirements imposed on foreign producers of, e.g., alcohol, tobacco, or food items that are imported into the United States. In order to sell in the U.S. market, foreign producers must comply with U.S. laws. This rule applies equally to any sexually explicit material introduced into the stream of commerce in the United States no matter where it was produced.
Foreign producers have the option of not complying with the rule, but then their access to the U.S. market is justly and lawfully prohibited."
We use metric, so you make your labels with metric measures ....
Produce hc photos/videos ? Want to sell to US sites??? Nedd the 2257 in the form that the USA required it.I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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go and read the law againOriginally posted by Franck
Its the best thing that happened in a long time.Comment


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