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  • Elli
    Reach for those stars!
    • Apr 2003
    • 17991

    #1

    Capture Card recommendations?

    I'm in the market for a new capture card. My current one is an ancient Hauppage WinTV card, that is no longer recognized by any major program. Windows Movie Maker recognizes it fine, but that's about it. SO any and all suggestions and info are welcome!!
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  • Elli
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    • Apr 2003
    • 17991

    #2
    Bueller?
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    • jukeboxfrank
      Confirmed User
      • Apr 2004
      • 1207

      #3
      I like ATI products but their capture software leaves the files
      too large.


      ICQ= 231-182-592

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      • JulianSosa
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2003
        • 3042

        #4
        Do you even need a capture card these days? Why not use a firewire cable?

        Sorry if im retarded but I just use firewire . What are the advantages of a special capture card?

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        • Elli
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          • Apr 2003
          • 17991

          #5
          Originally posted by jukeboxfrank
          I like ATI products but their capture software leaves the files
          too large.
          I had their All-in-Wonder about 5 years ago and was very less than impressed. Ah well.
          email: [email protected]

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          • riosluts
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2003
            • 5250

            #6
            i'd say go with the ATI AIW. Are you going to need tv-out?

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            • Elli
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              • Apr 2003
              • 17991

              #7
              Originally posted by JulianSosa
              Do you even need a capture card these days? Why not use a firewire cable?

              Sorry if im retarded but I just use firewire . What are the advantages of a special capture card?
              Well, I have firewire on my Audigy Z2, but I only have an onboard video card (Go on, laugh. Get it out of your system). So you're saying I just need to upgrade the video card to one that has a firewire plug?
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              • jukeboxfrank
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2004
                • 1207

                #8
                5 yrs is forever in the PC world...The trouble with firewire
                is not all software will find and use the camera as a source.
                But to each their own..
                Last edited by jukeboxfrank; 07-16-2004, 10:10 PM.


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                • Elli
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                  • Apr 2003
                  • 17991

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jukeboxfrank
                  5 yrs is forever in the PC world...The trouble with firewire
                  is not all software will find and use the camera as a source.
                  But to each their own..
                  So what would you recommend, frank? An ATI or something else?
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                  • Stewie
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 3670

                    #10
                    We've always used Winnov cards - Osprey are supposed to be another good brand, but we have never personally tried them.

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                    • Vitasoy
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                      • Oct 2003
                      • 58202

                      #11
                      Canopus ADVC-100

                      DV/Firewire
                      DV Converter
                      Analog VideoIn

                      The converted DV streams are transferred to your PC or Mac via IEEE 1394 (i.Link, FireWire) and stored on your hard drive where they can be manipulated using your favorite photo or video editing applications. This device is ideal for all OHCI and DV-only capture cards for Macintosh or PC.

                      Proven DV CODEC Technology
                      At the heart of ADVC100 is Canopus's proprietary DV codec chip providing the industry's best picture quality preservation during analog-to-DV and DV-to-analog conversion.

                      Locked Audio Support
                      Other converters can lose audio/video sync when converting longer segments of video. The ADVC-100 is the first inexpensive DV converter that supports locked audio when converting from analog to digital, assuring perfect audio and video synchronization.

                      > High Quality (original hardware design, co-developed with NEC
                      > Custom hardware Codec chip (original Canopus algorithm)
                      > Locked Audio Support (capture long clips w/perfect audio sync)
                      > Analog output of NTSC color bars for reference signal)
                      > 4-pin DV jack on front; 6-pin FireWire jack on back
                      > Analog input connector on front
                      > Analog output connector on back


                      http://www.canopus.com/US/products/a...m_advc-100.asp


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                      • William-Xfactor
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 299

                        #12
                        Hi Elli
                        Check out Matrox RTX 100 Extreme pro http://www.matrox.com/video/products...mepro/home.cfm

                        I have been using it for a few months now and love it.
                        I really like the capture software, makes it really easy to catalog all your mini dv tapes for future capturing. I also use the Audigy 2 ZS platinum card.
                        You can export right from the premier timeline in real-time. I also use pro coder 2 which makes it the complete editing / encoding setup for me.

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                        • AaronM
                          GFY Royality ;)
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 46917

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Stewie
                          We've always used Winnov cards - Osprey are supposed to be another good brand, but we have never personally tried them.
                          Once again.....I'm with Stewie on this one.


                          http://winnov.com/products/capture/videum1000plus.htm

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                          • William-Xfactor
                            Confirmed User
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 299

                            #14
                            Oh yeah you will need to buy a video card, onboard video is not suitable
                            cheers

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                            • AaronM
                              GFY Royality ;)
                              • Oct 2001
                              • 46917

                              #15
                              Originally posted by William-Xfactor
                              Oh yeah you will need to buy a video card, onboard video is not suitable
                              cheers
                              Wrong.

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                              • JulianSosa
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 3042

                                #16
                                What is the difference between a video card and just using firewire?

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                                • William-Xfactor
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2004
                                  • 299

                                  #17
                                  Wrong? lol
                                  That post was in reference to my matrox recommendation I made to Elli
                                  If you want performance from system you do not use on board video
                                  Now go fuck your self

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                                  • William-Xfactor
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Mar 2004
                                    • 299

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by JulianSosa
                                    What is the difference between a video card and just using firewire?
                                    Basically it takes the load of the cpu, even the fastest cpu?s can not supply enough juice to give you render free encoding, especially when you use advanced 3d effects, also gives you full quality preview and real-time export to tape / disc. Something?s still need to be rendered but overall I have found it much faster myself

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                                    • AaronM
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                                      • Oct 2001
                                      • 46917

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by William-Xfactor
                                      Wrong? lol
                                      That post was in reference to my matrox recommendation I made to Elli
                                      If you want performance from system you do not use on board video
                                      Now go fuck your self

                                      Elli does FAR less video work than I do and I use onboard video.

                                      WTF do I know though? I'm just an idiot newbie....Unlike you.

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                                      • Mikey_219Inc
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jun 2003
                                        • 1876

                                        #20
                                        huge hard drives, huffyyuv codec, firewire, rambus memory
                                        Let him who hath understanding reckon the WISDOM of the TOOF!

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                                        • William-Xfactor
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Mar 2004
                                          • 299

                                          #21
                                          Ok I worded it wrong, I?m sure you can use it but why not spend 50 bucks on a video card and get the performance benefits with your system.

                                          Anyway I have things to do I?m not going to waste my time arguing here.

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                                          • AaronM
                                            GFY Royality ;)
                                            • Oct 2001
                                            • 46917

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by William-Xfactor
                                            Ok I worded it wrong, I?m sure you can use it but why not spend 50 bucks on a video card and get the performance benefits with your system.

                                            Anyway I have things to do I?m not going to waste my time arguing here.
                                            Because it's $50 that could be applied to places that it is needed. You do not need an upgraded video card for what Elli does.

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                                            • William-Xfactor
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Mar 2004
                                              • 299

                                              #23
                                              Fair enough. I wouldn?t know what she does but if she doesn?t do much, then why even bother with a capture card at all! She has a firewire connection on her Audigy

                                              I?m out cheers

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                                              • JSA Matt
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Aug 2003
                                                • 5464

                                                #24
                                                Winnov is the way to go. I just saw this and i'm a fan of Plextor, anyone know if it's any good?

                                                http://www.plextor.com/english/products/ConvertX2.htm

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                                                • Elli
                                                  Reach for those stars!
                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                  • 17991

                                                  #25
                                                  Wow, thanks for the feedback everyone!

                                                  Aaron, please try to play nice, at least in my threads.

                                                  So are you saying the firewire plug on my Audigy would work fine? or no? I am confused. It's only a 800MHz PII processor with 512MB of RAM.
                                                  email: [email protected]

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                                                  • MaDalton
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                                                    • Feb 2004
                                                    • 39861

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Elli
                                                    Wow, thanks for the feedback everyone!

                                                    Aaron, please try to play nice, at least in my threads.

                                                    So are you saying the firewire plug on my Audigy would work fine? or no? I am confused. It's only a 800MHz PII processor with 512MB of RAM.
                                                    what camera do you have - analog or digital? If you got a digital mini-dv camera with firewire you just need a firewire port on your pc. then you can capture directly from the camera via firewire to your harddisk. it should work even with your computer.

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                                                    • AaronM
                                                      GFY Royality ;)
                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                      • 46917

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Elli
                                                      Wow, thanks for the feedback everyone!

                                                      Aaron, please try to play nice, at least in my threads.

                                                      So are you saying the firewire plug on my Audigy would work fine? or no? I am confused. It's only a 800MHz PII processor with 512MB of RAM.
                                                      WTF? I was playing nice. I gave you honest and good feedback then I told somebody they were wrong and they came back and cussed at me.

                                                      If telling somebody that they're wrong is a bad thing then every teacher and parent in this words should be punished whenever they do it.

                                                      Un fucking believable that you would tell me to play nice in this situation.

                                                      Excuse me Elli....He's right. You do need a new video card. In fact, you need 6 of them, 5 - 1tb hard drives, 4 firewire ports, 3 LCD monitors, 2 editing programs, and a partridge in a fucking pear tree.

                                                      Now I'm off to go fly a kite.

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                                                      • Elli
                                                        Reach for those stars!
                                                        • Apr 2003
                                                        • 17991

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by AaronM
                                                        WTF? I was playing nice. I gave you honest and good feedback then I told somebody they were wrong and they came back and cussed at me.

                                                        If telling somebody that they're wrong is a bad thing then every teacher and parent in this words should be punished whenever they do it.

                                                        Un fucking believable that you would tell me to play nice in this situation.

                                                        Excuse me Elli....He's right. You do need a new video card. In fact, you need 6 of them, 5 - 1tb hard drives, 4 firewire ports, 3 LCD monitors, 2 editing programs, and a partridge in a fucking pear tree.

                                                        Now I'm off to go fly a kite.
                                                        I apologize, Aaron. I misread (again). I need to stop skimming, I think.

                                                        Thanks for the info, I really do appreciate it. Sorry about that Aaron
                                                        email: [email protected]

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                                                        • McDonalds Manager
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                          • 79

                                                          #29
                                                          im on a mission. im gonna turn the board completely backwards by bumping every old thread from front to back. should only take 100 years or so. I have most of my GFY employees working on it.

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