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405 fwy traffic is crap and always bumper to bumper. Even non fwy regular streets are crap in the afternoon starting around 2pm. I used to get caught in traffic just driving to Starbucks. It is a pain just to get OUT of the small shopping complex where they have Starbucks, because traffic on the main street is so backed up, everyone is a bad mood and a lot of people just don't let you pass....
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