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  • Donny
    As you wish...
    • May 2002
    • 13754
    #1

    Thinking about getting a T1 Installed in My House (18.5 Miles Up in the Mountains)

    I got finally verification today... I can get a T1 installed in my house, even though I'm 18.5 miles up in the mountains, away from civilization. $499 per month. Cheaper than I thought.

    The only problem is justifying the cost to my girlfriend. She thinks it's ridiculous to spend 500 bucks a month for internet access when we have DirecWay satellite.

    What should I tell her?
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    • David!
      By the wrath of Agamemnon
      • Apr 2004
      • 6501
      #2
      I guess they don't have cable internet there
      .

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        • sandman!
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          • Mar 2001
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          #3
          she is a GF not a wife tell her its your $$$ and you work from home and want a good internet connection.
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            • Donny
              As you wish...
              • May 2002
              • 13754
              #4
              Originally posted by PussyMan
              I guess they don't have cable internet there
              Nope. Not out in the boonies.

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                    • Donny
                      As you wish...
                      • May 2002
                      • 13754
                      #6
                      Originally posted by sandman!
                      she is a GF not a wife tell her its your $$$ and you work from home and want a good internet connection.

                      The problem is that I have an office in town, also. Models won't drive all the way out here to be interviewed, so I have an office right by the university. And I pay for the highest speed business DSL available. She thinks I should settle for satellite at home and do my major uploads at the office.

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                        • David!
                          By the wrath of Agamemnon
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 6501
                          #7
                          Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                          Nope. Not out in the boonies.
                          Well, you got to trade off a nice setting for a high cost internet connection. I know I would go for it, hell I live in a highly populated area and I pay $199 a month for pro cable internet
                          .

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                            • BVF
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                              • Jan 2002
                              • 13975
                              #8
                              Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                              The problem is that I have an office in town, also. Models won't drive all the way out here to be interviewed, so I have an office right by the university. And I pay for the highest speed business DSL available. She thinks I should settle for satellite at home and do my major uploads at the office.
                              I don't see how her opinion would factor in on this...Is she taking any pictures? Is her name on the mortgage? if not, tell her to STFU and let you handle your biz.

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                                • Donny
                                  As you wish...
                                  • May 2002
                                  • 13754
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by BVF
                                  I don't see how her opinion would factor in on this...Is she taking any pictures? Is her name on the mortgage? if not, tell her to STFU and let you handle your biz.
                                  Well... actually... she does take a LOT of photos for me. She's a great little photographer.

                                  And her name will indeed be on the mortgage too. By this time next year she'll be Mrs. "Phillips" (substitute my real last name there if you know it).

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                                    • Donny
                                      As you wish...
                                      • May 2002
                                      • 13754
                                      #10
                                      Oh, she just read through this and said, "Hey, I never told you that you COULDN'T get the T1... I just think the $200 lower speed version is more sensible".

                                      1.5Mbps = $499
                                      284k = $200.

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                                        • crockett
                                          in a van by the river
                                          • May 2003
                                          • 76818
                                          #11
                                          do you need just faster d/l's from the dircway? or are you wanting to upload from home.. Something you may not be aware of is dricway can have way more open connections at one time than most other internet connections. The best part about it, is each connection is full Bandwidth and not shared as in cable.

                                          I may be wrong but I believe dricway will allow up to 22 or 24 open connections at once. How dose that help you? Well you just reset the windows default open connections (which is 3 or 5 I believe) What this means is you can make it compete with the faster D/L speeds of cable or DSL even though it's limited to 700k (?) download speeds you will have several of those all at the full limit. But he upload still sucks.
                                          Last edited by crockett; 07-13-2004, 06:35 PM.
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                                            • Donny
                                              As you wish...
                                              • May 2002
                                              • 13754
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by crockett
                                              do you need just faster d/l's from the dircway? or are you wanting to upload from home.. Something you may not be aware of is dricway can have way more open connections at one time than most other internet connections. The best part about it, is each connecting is full Bandwidth and not shared as in cable.

                                              I may be wrong but I believe dricway will allow up to 22 or 24 open connections at once. How dose that help you? Well you just reset the windows default open connections (which is 3 or 5 I believe) What this means is you can make it compete with the faster D/L speeds of cable or DSL even though it's limited to 700k (?) download speeds you will have several of those all at the full limit. But he upload still sucks.

                                              Uploads are my main concern. Downloads kick ass. I love DirecWay for downloads. Uploads happen, but they're frustrating.

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                                                • crockett
                                                  in a van by the river
                                                  • May 2003
                                                  • 76818
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                                  Uploads are my main concern. Downloads kick ass. I love DirecWay for downloads. Uploads happen, but they're frustrating.
                                                  oh ok, yea I agree the uploads suck, I was certified to install those dishes. Me and a bud of mine had a deal set up with a 3rd party to start up a company installing them, but the 3rd party flaked out so it never happened.
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                                                    • brizzad
                                                      holla
                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                      • 11769
                                                      #14
                                                      She doesnt own you, you're paying for everything, and its not like you can't afford it, or it'll put you in debt.. just go for it

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                                                        • unconnected
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                          • 1025
                                                          #15
                                                          you know for the uploads you can get say 5 phone lines installed and run them all through a custom build patch basically combining them into one phone line and have 5 dialup accounts open on them 24/7

                                                          it wouldn't be t1 speeds but it would be at least 25 kps or so which ain't bad..
                                                          requires a bit of tech know how but it woudl be a cheaper alternative
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                                                            • BV
                                                              wtf
                                                              • Sep 2001
                                                              • 10914
                                                              #16
                                                              I feel for ya man, I was in the same predicament at one time. I had the DirecPC dish too. Finally I moved. It would suck to pay that much for high speed. And a T1 isn't all that fast. Most cable modems are faster downloading, my dish was is even faster downloading than a T1. You would have some nice upload speed though. Fuck It, if it's in your budget and you think you need it, go for it. I almost did, (befor I moved)

                                                              Peace,
                                                              BV

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                                                                • BradM
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                  • 3397
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by sandman!
                                                                  she is a GF not a wife tell her its your $$$ and you work from home and want a good internet connection.

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                                                                    • badmrfrosty
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                      • 500
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Buy some roof space and 2mbps of bandwidth from the nearest Co-Lo facility and get a pair of wireless radios they do about 45mbps up to 30-50 miles.

                                                                      BMF

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                                                                        • detoxed
                                                                          vip member
                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                          • 17798
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Tell her you arent a pussy and dont have to justify $500 a month to her.

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                                                                            • detoxed
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                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                              • 17798
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by badmrfrosty
                                                                              Buy some roof space and 2mbps of bandwidth from the nearest Co-Lo facility and get a pair of wireless radios they do about 45mbps up to 30-50 miles.

                                                                              BMF
                                                                              LOL that wouldnt work would it?

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                                                                                • Sosa
                                                                                  In Tushy Land
                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                  • 40149
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  if you want it, go for it

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                                                                                    • EZRhino
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                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                      • 6258
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Dude you must have a lot of money to throw away.

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                                                                                        • toddler
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                                                                                          • Jun 2002
                                                                                          • 1911
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by EZRhino
                                                                                          Dude you must have a lot of money to throw away.
                                                                                          its in investment in a hassle free lifestyle. My question would be, do you really, honestly, need it? Really? Want I can understand, afford I can understand....but need?
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                                                                                            • Rebecca Love
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                                                                                              • Jul 2004
                                                                                              • 2145
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              If you can afford it, then it is a good investment into your company. As someone said time is money. And there is no way I would work with anything under Cable. Get the T-1. You deserve it.


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                                                                                                • BVF
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                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                  • 13975
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                                                                                  Oh, she just read through this and said, "Hey, I never told you that you COULDN'T get the T1... I just think the $200 lower speed version is more sensible".

                                                                                                  1.5Mbps = $499
                                                                                                  284k = $200.
                                                                                                  Fuck. she reads your threads too?

                                                                                                  Do you have any masculinity left in you?....Jeez.....SACK UP will ya?
                                                                                                  Last edited by BVF; 07-14-2004, 06:22 AM.

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                                                                                                    • JFPdude
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                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                      • 4027
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by detoxed
                                                                                                      LOL that wouldnt work would it?

                                                                                                      Sure would I had wireless T-1 in Pennsylvania before I moved to North Carolina ... it rocked for only 19.95 a month almost no downtime even in storms.

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                                                                                                        • MickeyG
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                                                                                                          • May 2004
                                                                                                          • 4134
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          I'll pay half if you let me setup a mail server there

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                                                                                                            • buzzard
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                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                                              • 1276
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Listen to your GF, i'd lose my enthusiasm for the T1 and live with what you have, for now. The money you save and the less time you spend on the puter at home, the better.

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                                                                                                                • rowan
                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                  • 17393
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by badmrfrosty
                                                                                                                  Buy some roof space and 2mbps of bandwidth from the nearest Co-Lo facility and get a pair of wireless radios they do about 45mbps up to 30-50 miles.

                                                                                                                  BMF
                                                                                                                  Hah, what do you plan to use for this? Better have a budget of several tens of thousands of dollars to buy it, and hope there is some left over to buy a license for some spectrum too.

                                                                                                                  (ie: there is no way that technically or legally you can use consumer 802.11x equipment to go such a distance at that sort of speed)

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                                                                                                                    • onlyreal
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                                                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                      • 853
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      gime 50 k i can do that 802 project

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                                                                                                                        • badmrfrosty
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                                                                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                                                                          • 500
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by detoxed
                                                                                                                          LOL that wouldnt work would it?
                                                                                                                          We do it often to deliver broadband to where there is none, Redline makes the gear.

                                                                                                                          works like a chizarm.

                                                                                                                          BMF

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                                                                                                                            • badmrfrosty
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                                                                                                                              • May 2003
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by rowan
                                                                                                                              Hah, what do you plan to use for this? Better have a budget of several tens of thousands of dollars to buy it, and hope there is some left over to buy a license for some spectrum too.

                                                                                                                              (ie: there is no way that technically or legally you can use consumer 802.11x equipment to go such a distance at that sort of speed)
                                                                                                                              Redline makes equipment that will do it, a pair of radios is 10k.. and its unlicensed, I dont know when the last time YOU deployed a Wi-fi WAN but i do it all the time, so maybe you should read up on the new methods.

                                                                                                                              BMF

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                                                                                                                                • taboo_dude
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                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                                                                                                                  Well... actually... she does take a LOT of photos for me. She's a great little photographer.

                                                                                                                                  And her name will indeed be on the mortgage too. By this time next year she'll be Mrs. "Phillips" (substitute my real last name there if you know it).
                                                                                                                                  Can't live with them can't live without them

                                                                                                                                  Depends on how many uploads you have to do really. I would probably tend to agree with her, unless you uploading massive movies, you would never use all the bandwidth.

                                                                                                                                  On the other hand though, it would be cool as hell to have a T1 in your house.

                                                                                                                                  unconnected, your sig....

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                                                                                                                                  Don't we do that now though
                                                                                                                                  Last edited by taboo_dude; 07-14-2004, 11:58 AM.
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                                                                                                                                    • Brad Gosse
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                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      If your office is less than 20 miles from the house you can piggyback the DSL connection with an outdoor wireless router.

                                                                                                                                      I have just ordered 2 of these with the 18db antenna to share my high speed DSL from my office to home (approx 15 miles)

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                                                                                                                                        • gregtx
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                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          I guess if you are ballin'.. go for it..

                                                                                                                                          I just don't see the need for a full blown T-1 for a content provider... when its a secondary local... primary being office by the university.

                                                                                                                                          get the $200 slower version.. program your uploads to go when you go to bed... and put the other $300 into a retirement investment account...

                                                                                                                                          I dunno.. i guess i've gotten too practical in my old yrs.. I'm working towards financial freedom.. not pissing it away on a faster secondary internet connection.. I use a $29 DSL at my house and it works just fine ;)
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                                                                                                                                            • frank7799
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                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 1974
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                                                                                                                              I got finally verification today... I can get a T1 installed in my house, even though I'm 18.5 miles up in the mountains, away from civilization. $499 per month. Cheaper than I thought.

                                                                                                                                              The only problem is justifying the cost to my girlfriend. She thinks it's ridiculous to spend 500 bucks a month for internet access when we have DirecWay satellite.

                                                                                                                                              What should I tell her?
                                                                                                                                              Do you really need it? If not, your gf is right. if you need it, explain it to her, and she will agree. Just my

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                                                                                                                                                • Illicit
                                                                                                                                                  wtf ?
                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 11895
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  sounds like a business expense to me
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                                                                                                                                                    • Manowar
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                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 71528
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      if it will pay for itself, dont listen to her

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                                                                                                                                                        • rowan
                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 17393
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by badmrfrosty
                                                                                                                                                          Redline makes equipment that will do it, a pair of radios is 10k.. and its unlicensed, I dont know when the last time YOU deployed a Wi-fi WAN but i do it all the time, so maybe you should read up on the new methods.
                                                                                                                                                          Thanks for the pointer, I am reading up right now.

                                                                                                                                                          I still don't think it's viable, after you spend the $10k and other install costs, plus rental of roof space and the actual pipe to the internet it's going to take 3 or 4 years for the savings to kick in (compared to $500/mo for the carrier provided T1). By then there could be DSL or another technology available to him locally at a much cheaper price.

                                                                                                                                                          Don't forget increasing RF congestion and legislation changes also. There's no guarantee that the link would still work reliably in 4 years time.

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                                                                                                                                                            • tgpmakers
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                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2004
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                                                                                                                                                              mmmm maybe you can take of some hosting costs and host yourself.
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                                                                                                                                                                • emthree
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 10816
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  You said direct way

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                                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                              You should ask her why you have your whole life established but why your too stupid to come to a board for pensi cookies about your gay T1

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