My Reply To The NaughtyBank Banner Drama

No one cares anymore. So feel free to STFU and get back to work. If you don't work - make some for yourself.

I just took a shit and it was more rewarding than spending 1/2 a second reading anything in this thread again.

And I'll accept that response as valid and politic. Thank you.

My response would be exactly the same. I don't even like most chicks.

Dude Didn't you hear? I sold about 100 adult domains and 13 pay sites 2 weeks ago. Delete away, your loss not mine

So... in about a month and a half you hit it big in adult and were able to quit that new job at.. kinkos?
2 months ago you were broke ass looking for anything you could get. Right ?

NOW you're a playa OK.

Answer your icq asshole. Be a man, take me in private Mr tough guy.

No Problem...thanks for accepting that

Oh Chris, I'm more man than you'll ever get.

I don't ignore anyone FYI, not pissants or playas.

If you have long distance you can call me.

Now, let me turn on that ICQ punk.

And all is well...

That's good, so you sold domains, what does that have to do with me? We had links, I am removing them. I am behing respectful enough to inform you. I would also appreciate you removing my article.

I never said I was a playa. Where did I say that? yeah 6 months ago I was desperate for work. I got fucked over by 'you know who' last year and it took a long time to recover. Lesson learned. Shit happens. I was never working at Kinkos (what teh fuck is that?) I am nwo workign for someone who actualy pays me and am slowly workign my way to a comfort zone What's wrong with that? Also, when does how much I make and how much I work at anything or where for that matter have to do with me being fed up with the sound banners? Fuck you and yoru wife are real idiot sticks. Grow up.


Good your on ICQ now. Maybe we can fix this shit or agree to disagree or something. fuck

Now that I made two more enemies in thsi thread I think my work is done. I am off for the night. I actualy got work to do.

All those that hate me and wont do biz with me because I stood my ground please responde with an 'aye'. The more the merrier.

Do you think I care to give you any proffesionalism? Replace my damaged sub and maybe so.

i knew this thread would be big

people talking about you is a good thing if your revenue is increasing.

God, between this thread and the perfectioncash thread I've never had to READ more on GFY in one sitting just to get the gist of what is going on! Since when did every post start getting so substantial?

That being said, I didn't want to be left out of getting to say that Jake and Allie are great hard working people who run a kickass site and program, and cudos to them for managing to get publicity for themselves, negative or otherwise. Because lord knows how hard that is, especially on GFY.

Now if you would only get those exits up, Jake... ;))

People signing up to be affiliates doesnt mean sales its means lots of people looking at free pics and videos. lol

You're kind of a puss in private Chris

I didn't get into this deal because I love/hate flash banners. I just down my volume and ignore the fuckers. I got into this thread because of the "Backing off would be a wise
choice" deal.

Now, bitching about being called names is null for someone who put gum in someone's hair first.

I suggest you send the bill for your woofer to Adult.com. Maybe the electric company will pay half. It wouldn't hurt to ask them too.

Now, I really do have work to do. Good night.

AST

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Date : 7/13/2004 Time : 9:20 PM
From : IWANTCHIXX
tsk tsk tsk. What's teh problem man? I never strted shit with yoru wifey. she jumped down my throat
and you both know it. .

Date : 7/13/2004 Time : 9:34 PM
From : Adult Site Traffic
Well, all she said was that Allie had a right to get what she paid for, and I don't really care one
way or another about political pissing matches, BUT, what's the "Backing off would be a wise
choice" stuff man ?
Or what ?

Date : 7/13/2004 Time : 9:34 PM
From : IWANTCHIXX
listen, I had no problem with what she said, until she got insultive

Date : 7/13/2004 Time : 9:35 PM
From : IWANTCHIXX
that backign off stuff is it. back off. I don;t need this shit. I get angry and say shit I shouldnt
when I get pissed off,

Date : 7/13/2004 Time : 9:35 PM
From : Adult Site Traffic
I don't care about that one way or another, it's "Go Fuck Yourself".

But.. I just wanna know
"Backing off would be a wise choice" .. . Or what ?

Date : 7/13/2004 Time : 9:35 PM
From : IWANTCHIXX
heh

Date : 7/13/2004 Time : 9:36 PM
From : IWANTCHIXX
shit will hit the fan, I don;t need this shit, I am trying to get work done and Now i have to
defend my character

Date : 7/13/2004 Time : 9:38 PM
From : Adult Site Traffic
LOL. Drop it.

If you'd have paid for the banner, you could have run whatever you like. Lens took
the money, then seems everyone's beef is with Lens.

I don't like the flash banners either. I have 3 choices, not that I give a care...

1) Listen to them
2) Turn down my volume
3) Stay off GFY

Date : 7/13/2004 Time : 9:38 PM
From : IWANTCHIXX
I just think you wife needs to realize that insulting one's inteligence ina public forum is not
going to result in "ye ma'ams" I never said shit to her to begin with

Date : 7/13/2004 Time : 9:39 PM
From : Adult Site Traffic
Wait, I didn't read the thread.. Let me go back and see who threw the first name

Date : 7/13/2004 Time : 9:39 PM
From : IWANTCHIXX
and it's none of hers or your business nor concern enough to get on this "she paid for it " kick.
There was damage done to my audio system due to this. My sub is fucked. I am pissed, Very pissed. I
have every right

Date : 7/13/2004 Time : 9:40 PM
From : IWANTCHIXX
whoc ares

Date : 7/13/2004 Time : 9:40 PM
From : IWANTCHIXX
I got work to do instead of fighting.

Date : 7/13/2004 Time : 9:40 PM
From : IWANTCHIXX
im outta here

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Originally posted by dirtydesignz
Here is an idea...stop reading my posts then. You know
perfectly well that what I say is valid.

TURN OFF YOUR VOLUME! or use headphones, there is NO
REASON to turn off flash.

07-13-2004 08:21 PM
man you ARE an idiot.

There was damage done to my audio system due to this. My sub is fucked. I am pissed, Very pissed. I
have every right

iwantchixx

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Date : 7/13/2004 Time : 9:45 PM
From : Adult Site Traffic
So I guess it was you first Chris

Date : 7/13/2004 Time : 9:45 PM
From : IWANTCHIXX
wrong

Date : 7/13/2004 Time : 9:45 PM
From : IWANTCHIXX
look prior

Date : 7/13/2004 Time : 9:46 PM
From : Adult Site Traffic
Then go read the thread and show me where

I just started on post 1.

Date : 7/13/2004 Time : 9:46 PM
From : IWANTCHIXX
Originally posted by dirtydesignz
You are in the ADULT business and GFY is an ADULT board.... use your brain and just turn down the
volume.

Date : 7/13/2004 Time : 9:46 PM
From : IWANTCHIXX
i dotn take kindly to tlak liek that

Date : 7/13/2004 Time : 9:47 PM
From : IWANTCHIXX
could act a bit mroe proffesional IMHO to someone that said fuck all to her nor hurt her in any
way,

Date : 7/13/2004 Time : 9:48 PM
From : Adult Site Traffic
LOL

THAT's the name calling?

That sounds like common sense to me Chris. You've been on this
board 2 years and you do know what to expect here.

Date : 7/13/2004 Time : 9:49 PM
From : IWANTCHIXX
I expect to be talked to like a human being man. I said fuck all to her to instigate a "use your
brain" tactic. and treating me liek I am a damn child.
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Give'em hell, Allie

Hey guys,

I know Allie and Jake and like them both very much personally

But we come to here is a matter of respect...Respect for yourself, respect for you business and respect for your industry.

Can you imagine how that sound bit would play in a court room when we are trying to defend our industry against the norm.

I walk the line between mainstream and adult and I have 30+ people working in my office including college interns, including my 19 yr old daughter who's working for me for the summer and all of a sudden "FUCK ME BABY MAKE ME CUM" comes screaming out of my computer because I didn't remember to turn down the sound in my computer...Something is wrong with that logic and maybe Asshahahaha is right and we as an industry should go down

You do not have to disrespect, yourself, your business or industry to make money in this business, if so we would not have made a fuckin dime.

If I'm a successful business man making good coin will such a banner get me to join your program, hell no...Because I'm not here for the quick buck or the quick 'today' $$$, I'm here for the long hall.

Disrespect me, my home, my office, my business, my family, I shut you out. You become like DMR and Babenet and a host of others who can't find a good way to make money so you go to scamming to make money when there is no reason in the world to have to do it

Allie and Jake I have to ask you would you play that banner for your local business licensing agency to get you business license, your local school council to get you kid in school, the college admissions office accepting your kid to college, the local police dept when they ask you where you work when you get stopped etc...etc...etc...I don't think so.

You it me with that sound bite you are disrespecting me as a person and everything about my business...but you expect me to give you my business...there's something wrong with that picture

You said it perfectly, the naughtybank team needs to retake marketing class and learn how to respect those in the same line of biz as them.

Chances are tons of surfers and non productive wms signed up ... so she's happy with that.

Naughtybank runied it for the rest of gfy sponsors who have banner spots. I hope Lens will rethink his approach in the future. This shit says alot about him, anything for a quick buck. People like this you usually want to stay away from, in fear they will fuck you over for a quick buck or even when your back is turned.

Dude shut the fuck up and grow up.

What the fuck is wrong with you?
The guy was obviously trying to kill the flame off battle.

I've always liked you Allie, even though we have yet to meet. Hopefully we'll fix that in Miami

I meant what I said, you did nothing wrong at this point other than use your judgement to market your business. The epitomy of capitalism is not whether you are popular or not, it's whether you can support yourself in the manner you want without violating either the law or common ethics.

Everyone is a critic; the ability to distinguish what works and what doesn't amidst a sea of criticism is a very valuable talent -- and one that you seem to have an understanding of, from what I read in your thread starting post.

Let's talk in icq chick

OMG, just like Silvercash and ARS ruined it for board skinning? Riiiiiight.

same here

Ok, I didn't read all of this at all........ I seen a ton of novels and didn't make it past the first page on here. BUT seeing as how MY kids are some of these kids, I will respond here as well.......

NOW...... while it did completely freak me out that it was there and I have been told about it a FEW times, I wasn't thinking, and I had been listening to something else and cranked up my speakers, which I RARELY ever do...... and much less forgetting to turn them back to mute..... but I DID, and this is MY fault....... my son walked in from where he had been OUTSIDE and I didn't hear him come in the door, when I heard the footsteps, I had JUST hit refresh on this board, not thinking about that banner, my speakers or anything, I had hit refresh and was going to the little line thingie to dive the window, I must have hit that banner, and it blasted, scaring me AND my son half to damn death. I don't remember hitting it, but I was so hurried trying to get that window down before he got around that corner that I didn't think about anything else.

YES he heard it and YES it freaked me and him out....... BUT...... I have no one to blame but MYSELF on this and I sure as all hell can't blame other people for MY own carelessness........ annoying or not, it is MY job to pay attention to what is going on in MY house........ had you come into my house and just started screaming that shit, I probably would have punched you in the damn head and threw you out for doing that....... or if I was in public, I would have cussed you up one side and down the other. BUT this is and was on MY computer in MY house...... and it is MY responsibility.

For the record, this child, as I stated before, is 15..... and I know damn well he has heard worse and said worse, he just wasn't used to it from my house...... and certainly not from MY computer.... LMAO

If this made you money, then this is great for you.... and it was/is certainly out of the box and creative and as they say, ANY publicity is better than none. I am not now and never WAS pissed off about this as it first came off that I was, I was merely stating what had happened to me and as per GFY style, it got way stretched out...... LMAO

I don't know you at all, but I DO know it isn't your responsibility to look out for MY kids, that is mine and mine alone....

FOR THE RECORD...... all of my kids except the youngest one, knows what I do, to the extent they are able to comprehend it, as does anyone I know... I don't hide anything...... I just don't subject them to it, and would never. and my kids are dealt with FAR more strictly on looking at porn than most surfers..... because I know what to expect and I prepare them for it, as well as their computers. LOL

Did I give you permision to post a PRIVATE conversaion log? No.

You seriously need to back off NOW. We ended this battle earlier and you CONTINUE to go on about it. Karma's a bitch.

Shit happens, we all get over it in due time.

Just sad that naughtybank fucked the market for other advertisers.

Glad to hear the campaign worked out well for you guys!

Like I said in some of the banner threads, if all the negativity brought more attention to the banners & got you more affiliates, then it was a success. Period.

most have a 100 STDs by now

Let's get one thing straight.

*I* don't need *YOUR* permission for anything, OK? You're a whiney little fucking baby come to me saying my wife's calling you names and who's acting all Mr. tough on the board and a puss in private. Wahhh.

Now, WHAT are you going to do *IF* I don't "back off"?

Fucking nothing, that's what. You don't threaten me. I mean, you can, but you're nothing more than a peon in my world and you couldn't cause me a single problem if you had all your friends trying with you.

So fuck off .. OR ELSE, LOL Who does that sound like ?

I love Allie and I love that banner

Hank, you know I love you man but that's not a very fair question. I'm quite sure there aren't many people in this business that would openly display their marketing materials to any of the organizations you've mentioned. To answer your question, NO of course we wouldn't nor would the majority of the people who post on this board.

Congrats to both Jake and Allie for a kick-ass promo. You guys rock and so does your program. Keep it up!

WTF took so long to respond?


Too little too late.

Flash is already off in my browser.

damn

ok, so how do I disable flash?

You seem to like to throw this "I am better than you" bullshit around. Everything about you speaks unproffesionalism and this just proves it. I never ran to you saying your wife was calling me names. I never said there was any name calling. I said i did not appreciate being talked to the way she did. Don't twist this around to make yourself look good.

Actually you DO need my permission to post logs involving me. Call me a whiney baby all you want, But at least I am not sitting on my ass acting all high and mighty. Biz is about respect, your cranky wife disrespected me, She got what she deserved, attitude back, Then you run to the rescue accusing me of threatening you. Fuck you. Why must you be so childish. Everything you touch has a touch of childish behaviour it seems. Everyone I talked to about you agrees on what a child you can be at time,. Even people who work with you.

So what makes your world so much bigger than mine? Cause you have a handful of pay sites that you can't even manage properly, damn things are a mess. Because you have a little designer wife??? Or because you get upset when I offered design services to a customer you were trying to nail? Remember that? you got all cranky and yelling at me and Tam about it. If it weren't for her I would have torn a strip otu of you then an WALKED from the company. Doesn't matter now anyways.


So what is it? Oh I know. Must be because I am not a high roller like you. I bow to your leetness and your high rolling bling. Forgive me Sit. I mean no disrespect to royalty like you


Jack ass.

You could have let this die, yet you had to be an idiot about it. Enjoy your pathetic life.


The end.


PS:
"whiney little fucking baby come to me saying my wife's calling you names"
YOU CAME TO ME!
I said I did not like the way she talked to me and disrespected me as a RESPONSE.
Do NOT spin it this way asshole.

I say fuck them all. If someone comes to a board called Go Fuck Yourself and can't have a sense of humour then they ought to do just what the name says.

I'm happy its worked out for you, you've got your money's worth and a lot more. Good luck with the programme!

Yes you did come to him...on icq. Yes you did say I was calling you names and you were whining about it. .

When I responded in this thread, it had nothing to do with you. Period. It had to do with the fact that I think Allie's banners were not a big deal. That if everyone didn't want to hear them, all they had to do was turn their volume down like I did. No big deal. It had to do with the fact that Naughtbank had every right as a paid advertiser to run whatever banner Lensman OK'd.

You didn't agree with me and called me an idiot. I didn't act unprofessionally.... Then you threatened me and told me to back off or else... and YOU are acting professionally? Right.

Anyone with half a brain cell can re-read the thread and see for themselves. I didn't do anything to YOU. I stated my opinion and a simple solution to the 'problem' of the flash sound banner. YOU started name calling and acting like a boob.

BTW. Our paysites are doing great and so is the traffic and designing...so stop making shit up to try and make yourself look like a bigboy.

If you will notice, I don't post here alot due to jerks like you thinking that they are all that, when they are just little nobodies trying to make themselves look bigger than they can ever be.

So...I still think Allie's banner was no big deal and all I had to do was turn my volume down. Kudos to Naughtybank for having an innovative banner idea and getting it out there on GFY....

I asked him what the big deal was. I NEVER said you were calling anyone names. get your facts (or falses) straight.


ENOUGH

Now shut up about it already.

"Then you threatened me and told me to back off or else."

I did no such thing, stop making shit up. I told you to back off. HUGE difference. How old are you? 12?

Actually the thing the banner did was motivate people to find a way to disable flash on their browsers. Thanks to bradm mine is now disabled, so I dont care what kind of banners they have . lol

can you guys argue in another thread..this one annoys the hell out of me

i dont see any flash ads anymore..not even the ones we pay for.

I have seen allie and jake at almost every show,but have as yet to meet them...im sure they are nice people.

try them out...im sure they have great retention

"so stop making shit up to try and make yourself look like a bigboy."

That's what YOU are doing.


Saying that I threatened when I did not. That's making shit up. Your hubby did the threatening 'or else' Learn to read bitch.


I did no such thing to make myself look big. In fact, you and your hubby did.

what does this have to do with tryign them out? I will not and NEVER will try them out. Their guerilla marketing techniques pissed me off to no end. If you don't like the argument then stop reading.

I'm lazy as fuck

before you turn your rage my way, i was one of the ones who asked how i can disable sound and flash.


i say try them out as it is the politcally correct thing to say.

why dont you stop bumping the thread for them?