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  • reynold
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Oct 2002
    • 51271

    #51
    Good post Cory. So often is it forgot that the porn is just a vehicle to profit from and that this business has mostly the same aspects any other business does. No one will be happier or wealthier from accentuating the porn, or personal disputes over the boards. To all: be professional!

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    • reynold
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Oct 2002
      • 51271

      #52
      A very good example was Marc De on his own board. One of the masters of smut refused to use the f-word over there. That's class, that's also how reps should act.

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      • sweetums
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2003
        • 2534

        #53
        Excellent points, Cory.....just because the product we're peddling happens to be overt sexually doesn't mean that this stops being a business.

        Treat people with respect and they most tend to do so in return
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        • strobi
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2002
          • 7383

          #54
          Very well said!

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          • latinasojourn
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2003
            • 3191

            #55
            all true.

            problem is the old 80/20 rule.

            only 20% of the people who read and post here are serious players who do 80% of the business, and actually make a living at this.

            and those 20% already know what you've said.

            and the other 80% are the kids and hangers-on who post galleries, or want to surf porn all day as an excuse for a job because KFC won't hire them.

            and because of that i see GFY less and less as a valuable business tool.

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            • fatbaby
              Confirmed User
              • Jun 2003
              • 486

              #56
              Gotta bump this for my second favorite metrosexual buddy... ;-)

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              • Cory W
                Deeply shallow
                • Jan 2004
                • 9133

                #57
                Originally posted by Eric_aka_RedEyes
                Great post Cory, I was looking at the thread that I believe gave you the inspiration for this post earlier today and thinking all the same things.
                Of course you were thinking the same thing, you have been around on a "chosen basis." You are a smart guy that would succeed at anything business oriented.

                If you look through the names in this thread, you potentially see the 20% manifesting in a small way. This thread is filled with some of the classiest and most succesful people in the industry.

                As far as that other thread is concerned, it (not the live sex aspect) is the only reason that I will occasionally lie about my presence in this industry. It really brings it down and overshadows the many great and dynamic individuals we have. People don't understand what they potentially lose, as Peaches stated, by using those low-class marketing techniques.

                Let me know when you are down in Newport again, dinner is on me.
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                • Cory W
                  Deeply shallow
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 9133

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Halcyon
                  Well said.

                  There are companies who I have deliberately steered traffic away from due to their rep's behavior. And there are people who I will no longer recommend their services based on the way they treat people on the boards.

                  I'm not talkin about drunkeness or silliness. But raw offensiveness is something I cannot reward.

                  My dad told me when I was young.

                  "If you are REALLLY fucking smart, then you can be an asshole.
                  Otherwise, you better be nice to people."
                  You are a Class Act.
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                  • Cory W
                    Deeply shallow
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 9133

                    #59
                    Originally posted by sherie
                    Wow Cory, you've had a moment of clarity ;) Just kidding sweetie. Great post. I know that sometimes we all have our days, but pointing fingers and making accusations when one should really be concentrating on the job that is required of them is somewhat a waste of time and bandwidth.

                    Pissing can be fun to fill in voids, but you are correct, one never knows whom they are going to piss off in the end. People should never concern themselves with what credentials one may or may not have. In the end who really cares. If someone claimed to be Santa, I would ask why in the hell I never got that Axl Rose 10 years ago ;)
                    I love you. You are great.
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                    • pussyluver
                      Clueless OleMan
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 11009

                      #60
                      Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker
                      True - And as most people would not have understood the meaning of WEGCashCory's brilliant post, most of it, unfortunately, will have been wasted.


                      However - This is certainly a post for many people to read, and read again.
                      ditto

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                      • Cory W
                        Deeply shallow
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 9133

                        #61
                        Originally posted by kBizzle
                        Great post Cory

                        Also it's important to mention " DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE"
                        Everyone is always so impressed by people's money and personal property

                        Remember anyone can lease a car, rent a house, or have flashy clothes-

                        You just never get to see how broke they really are until you pay a surprise visit on them and see them getting everything repossessed


                        I have been there and it still makes me laugh-

                        Also just because a person buys you a drink at a trade show it doesn't necessarily make them a " good guy"
                        I am impressed with you because you are a great promoter and you wear flashy clothes. I can't help it, I love flashy clothes.
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                        • Cory W
                          Deeply shallow
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 9133

                          #62
                          Originally posted by Stewie
                          Cory, I said I was sorry for running around drunk and topless during our last meeting - I won't let it happen again.
                          I always love seeing you guys. You, Buzz, Rachel and Vanilla are class acts. Your sites speak for themselves.

                          Vanilla and Rachel need to whip some of these other girls in shape. They are the real leaders when it comes to blending intelligence and beauty.
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                          • Cory W
                            Deeply shallow
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 9133

                            #63
                            Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                            Primarily the blame is on the employer.
                            I agree.
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                            • Cory W
                              Deeply shallow
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 9133

                              #64
                              Originally posted by poppy
                              WORD. Good points indeed.

                              On a side note: I look forward to seeing your dancing skills, since our last lesson in SD
                              Lets catch some surf first.

                              The sharks are hungry
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                              • tony299
                                lurker
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 57021

                                #65
                                good stuff

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                                • Cory W
                                  Deeply shallow
                                  • Jan 2004
                                  • 9133

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                  good post, I had to look up at the address bar to see where I was

                                  You are now in a thread where intelligent people are posting. Please stay a while, you are one of the good, intelligent guys.

                                  I purchased this lot, I have a stack of books coming, this should distract the 80 percent from trying to get in here.
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                                  • pornguy
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 62910

                                    #67
                                    Very well said..

                                    I know that I have seen posts and comments made by reps for some VERY large companies on this board, and if they had been working for me, I would have had them drawn and quartered, and then fired them.
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                                    • Cory W
                                      Deeply shallow
                                      • Jan 2004
                                      • 9133

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by reynold
                                      Good post Cory. So often is it forgot that the porn is just a vehicle to profit from and that this business has mostly the same aspects any other business does. No one will be happier or wealthier from accentuating the porn, or personal disputes over the boards. To all: be professional!
                                      We should do business.

                                      Add me to ICQ anytime.

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                                      • Cory W
                                        Deeply shallow
                                        • Jan 2004
                                        • 9133

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker
                                        True - And as most people would not have understood the meaning of WEGCashCory's brilliant post, most of it, unfortunately, will have been wasted.


                                        However - This is certainly a post for many people to read, and read again.
                                        You are great.

                                        Thanks for posting in my thread. Add me to icq anytime, maybe we can make money together.

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                                        • Gabriel
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                                          • Apr 2002
                                          • 4789

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by kBizzle
                                          But is the flight here?
                                          and better yet ...Is Andy and his wife on it???

                                          Personal joke only Peaches and Gabe will get-

                                          LOL
                                          The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round...



                                          Originally posted by Peaches
                                          Billy's here though!
                                          Dont you love Canadians? She was my favorite, next to Sherie of course.

                                          Originally posted by sherie
                                          No worries sweetie, I got a cab waiting for you! ;)
                                          Next time you and i need to share the backseat...



                                          Sorry Cory... As Aly would say "Carry on dahling"
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                                          • Cory W
                                            Deeply shallow
                                            • Jan 2004
                                            • 9133

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by pornguy
                                            Very well said..

                                            I know that I have seen posts and comments made by reps for some VERY large companies on this board, and if they had been working for me, I would have had them drawn and quartered, and then fired them.
                                            I am currently working on methods of thinning the herd, starting here.

                                            Contact me anytime, maybe we can make money together.
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                                            • Cory W
                                              Deeply shallow
                                              • Jan 2004
                                              • 9133

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by sweetums
                                              Excellent points, Cory.....just because the product we're peddling happens to be overt sexually doesn't mean that this stops being a business.

                                              Treat people with respect and they most tend to do so in return
                                              I have done business with you. You are a Class Act. I wish more of these "sale's reps" would watch you and learn, we would have far less stupidity running rampant.

                                              I hope you go to Florida. I hope your current deal is working out. If you ever needed anything from me, I would be glad to do it.
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                                              • pxxx
                                                First African GFY Member
                                                • Mar 2004
                                                • 12114

                                                #73
                                                This thread is the best to happen to gfy all week or months, couldn't agree with you anymore Cory. Every word in that post speaks the truth and i personally thank you for bringing those points across to many people here. This is one place that this thread is highly needed.

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                                                • Cory W
                                                  Deeply shallow
                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                  • 9133

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by pxxx
                                                  This thread is the best to happen to gfy all week or months, couldn't agree with you anymore Cory. Every word in that post speaks the truth and i personally thank you for bringing those points across to many people here. This is one place that this thread is highly needed.
                                                  I just added you to my ICQ list.

                                                  Thanks for posting.
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                                                  • Cory W
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                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                    • 9133

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by latinasojourn
                                                    all true.

                                                    problem is the old 80/20 rule.

                                                    only 20% of the people who read and post here are serious players who do 80% of the business, and actually make a living at this.

                                                    and those 20% already know what you've said.

                                                    and the other 80% are the kids and hangers-on who post galleries, or want to surf porn all day as an excuse for a job because KFC won't hire them.

                                                    and because of that i see GFY less and less as a valuable business tool.
                                                    I love the Cole Slaw at KFC. Hopefully within a year, I will get the hookups from some of these ex-reps.
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                                                    • Tala
                                                      Fucked if I know
                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                      • 23368

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by sweetums
                                                      Excellent points, Cory.....just because the product we're peddling happens to be overt sexually doesn't mean that this stops being a business.

                                                      Treat people with respect and they most tend to do so in return
                                                      Well said.

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                                                      • Cory W
                                                        Deeply shallow
                                                        • Jan 2004
                                                        • 9133

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by punker barbie
                                                        Very kewl thread Cory!
                                                        PB is a Class Act
                                                        Last edited by Cory W; 07-13-2004, 02:03 PM.
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                                                        • sweetums
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                          • 2534

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by WEGCashCory
                                                          I have done business with you. You are a Class Act. I wish more of these "sale's reps" would watch you and learn, we would have far less stupidity running rampant.

                                                          I hope you go to Florida. I hope your current deal is working out. If you ever needed anything from me, I would be glad to do it.
                                                          Thank you for the kind words, Cory. I've always enjoyed our talks....you're truly one of the most genuine people I've had the pleasure of meeting in this industry

                                                          I'm hoping to be in Florida and that we can sit down again
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                                                          • chipmunk
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                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                            • 1039

                                                            #79
                                                            Cory Great post...

                                                            Having come from the mainstream, I could not agree more...

                                                            It does not matter whether you are selling Porn or Dog Food...At the end of the day, it's a product, and the end user has expectations that must be met!

                                                            Warm regards,

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                                                            • KCat
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                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                              • 2204

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by kBizzle
                                                              Remember anyone can lease a car, rent a house, or have flashy clothes-
                                                              Ain't that the truth?!! I can't believe how many credit card, credit line, home equity offers I get in the mail & from my bank. I could be leveraged out the ass to make it look like I was living much larger. I'd rather pay off my mortgage & be debt free.

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                                                              • fatal attraction
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Feb 2003
                                                                • 6522

                                                                #81
                                                                Excellent thread Cory!
                                                                I was glad we got to talk the first day in San Diego before everyone got there. I couldn't agree with you more!

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                                                                • gregtx
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                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                  • 1929

                                                                  #82
                                                                  nice guys finish second, and the assholes end up fucking the prom queen ;)
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                                                                  • Cory W
                                                                    Deeply shallow
                                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                                    • 9133

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by fatal attraction
                                                                    Excellent thread Cory!
                                                                    I was glad we got to talk the first day in San Diego before everyone got there. I couldn't agree with you more!
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                                                                    • Ar3s
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                      • 4307

                                                                      #84
                                                                      HQ

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                                                                      • Sly_RJ
                                                                        Live Hard - Die Hard
                                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                                        • 17042

                                                                        #85
                                                                        So Cory, is the reason you still haven't gotten back to me about my email because of my lack of professionalism?

                                                                        I'll be the first to admit that professionalism isn't exactly my thing. I think that a lot of times "professionalism" involves too much candy-coating, fluff, and not enough truth and honesty. That's just the way I have always seen it. I'd rather sit back and know that I'm talking to "the real deal". No bull shit, no lies, just straight up business and honesty.

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                                                                        • Raven
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 6874

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by Halcyon
                                                                          Well said.

                                                                          There are companies who I have deliberately steered traffic away from due to their rep's behavior. And there are people who I will no longer recommend their services based on the way they treat people on the boards.

                                                                          I'm not talkin about drunkeness or silliness. But raw offensiveness is something I cannot reward.

                                                                          My dad told me when I was young.

                                                                          "If you are REALLLY fucking smart, then you can be an asshole.
                                                                          Otherwise, you better be nice to people."
                                                                          My dad told me that one has to be very powerful or very rich...then you can be an asshole..

                                                                          Good post, Cory....I just submitted an article on that very subject...
                                                                          Raven

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                                                                          • xxxdesign-net
                                                                            My hips don't lie
                                                                            • Nov 2002
                                                                            • 10129

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by gregtx
                                                                            nice guys finish second, and the assholes end up fucking the prom queen ;)
                                                                            Brad never fucked the prom queen!

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                                                                            • Cory W
                                                                              Deeply shallow
                                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                                              • 9133

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                                                                              too much candy-coating, fluff, and not enough truth and honesty. That's just the way I have always seen it. I'd rather sit back and know that I'm talking to "the real deal". No bull shit, no lies, just straight up business and honesty.

                                                                              I am not referring to people that are direct. More referring to sale's reps which seek provoking drama as a source for marketing.

                                                                              We are redoing our site, taking vast measures to cut out our traffic trades, which is why we have not added your galleries as of yet. I want the quality of traffic to improve a bit. As always, business is a work in progress.

                                                                              It should be soon.

                                                                              And I think you have Class
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                                                                              • Sly_RJ
                                                                                Live Hard - Die Hard
                                                                                • Feb 2002
                                                                                • 17042

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by WEGCashCory
                                                                                I am not referring to people that are direct. More referring to sale's reps which seek provoking drama as a source for marketing.
                                                                                Gotcha!

                                                                                Can you grab me on ICQ anyway? I have a Pure Cash question and can't seem to find Luke on my list. Thanks!

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                                                                                • WPProphet
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                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                  • 340

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by WEGCashCory

                                                                                  Ever read the book detailing the branding of Starbucks and Nike? Never saw that guy call someone a "slut." I bet he has lots of friends.

                                                                                  Anyone know who Starbucks and Nike are?

                                                                                  I do.
                                                                                  Excellent point!!! Whatever your business may be, its just a good policy to treat people respectfully. You never know who you might be upsetting.

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                                                                                  • Peaches
                                                                                    Old broad
                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                    • 13933

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                                                                                    Gotcha!

                                                                                    Can you grab me on ICQ anyway? I have a Pure Cash question and can't seem to find Luke on my list. Thanks!

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                                                                                    • fatbaby
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                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                      • 486

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      It amazes me that this tread is dying this quickly.... but I guess that says something in, and of itself.....

                                                                                      I'm always amazed at how people conduct themselves on message boards, and then cant figure out why others will not do business with them.....

                                                                                      Business..... treat it as such.

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                                                                                      • fatal attraction
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                                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                                        • 6522

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by chipmunk
                                                                                        Cory Great post...

                                                                                        Having come from the mainstream, I could not agree more...

                                                                                        It does not matter whether you are selling Porn or Dog Food...At the end of the day, it's a product, and the end user has expectations that must be met!

                                                                                        Warm regards,

                                                                                        --=Chipmunk=--

                                                                                        Exactly the same conversation we had last week! See you in Tampa!!!!

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                                                                                        • ztik
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                                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                                          • 5196

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Nice to see that not everyone is retarded here!
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                                                                                          • Rochard
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                                                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                                                            • 75760

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Great fucking thread..... I can add one:

                                                                                            When you leave company "A" and go to work for company "B", do not bash company "A". I was Zebra, our marketing guy at the time, and one sales rep had the balls to tell him that "I steered you wrong with company "A" but I would never do that to you again". So you screwed once and but now I can trust you? I don't think so.
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                                                                                            • AWW - Kevin
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                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                              • 2353

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Great Post !

                                                                                              This may wake up some of the "kids" that are currently posting
                                                                                              galleries and think talking smack and bashing people is ok for them because they don't need them. Yet in the back of their head they want to one run a big program one day and when that day comes they wonder why no one is sending any traffic !


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                                                                                              • Phoenix
                                                                                                BACON BACON BACON
                                                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                                                • 35475

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by RocHard
                                                                                                Great fucking thread..... I can add one:

                                                                                                When you leave company "A" and go to work for company "B", do not bash company "A". I was Zebra, our marketing guy at the time, and one sales rep had the balls to tell him that "I steered you wrong with company "A" but I would never do that to you again". So you screwed once and but now I can trust you? I don't think so.
                                                                                                that is another no no.

                                                                                                It amazes me that people don't understand they cant be putting down or detracting from one company to try and promote another. This also applies to sales in general, you should never try and sell using a negative technique like that.

                                                                                                People gossip and spread filth like mad, but you would be suprised at the thought process you trigger within someone when your sole purpose is to paint someone/company with a brush of shit.

                                                                                                I for one usually like to investigate when someone is "Talking smack".

                                                                                                Be nice to everyone..kharma and all that.
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                                                                                                • Vanilla
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                                                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                                                  • 8097

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by WEGCashCory
                                                                                                  I always love seeing you guys. You, Buzz, Rachel and Vanilla are class acts. Your sites speak for themselves.

                                                                                                  Vanilla and Rachel need to whip some of these other girls in shape. They are the real leaders when it comes to blending intelligence and beauty.
                                                                                                  I just love you - especially in one of those tight Metrosexual twisted cash shirts! lol

                                                                                                  It's always good to see you too, Sweets!
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                                                                                                  • aSStig
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                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    that's a great insight . . . .
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                                                                                                    • corvette
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                                                                                                      • Oct 2001
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                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      well said
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