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  • IPK
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    News: Russia's richest gun down Forbes editor for naming them

    http://www.news.com.au/common/story_...,4057,10123995^401,00.html

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    Special unit to probe 'rich list' murder
    By Jim Heintz in Moscow
    July 13, 2004

    A HIGH-LEVEL special crimes unit will investigate the killing of the American editor of Forbes magazine's Russian edition, an official said overnight, a sign the government wants to show its determination to solve the slaying.

    Prosecutor General Vladimir Ustinov has ordered his office's department for the investigation of particularly important cases to conduct the probe into the death of Paul Klebnikov, said Viktor Potapov, an official at the prosecutor general's office.

    Mr Klebnikov, 41, was gunned down late Friday outside the magazine's Moscow offices in a slaying widely believed to be connected to his work.

    Forbes started its Russian-language edition in April, and in May attracted wide attention by publishing a list of Russia's wealthiest people - a sensitive topic in a country where many fortunes were made through dubious activities in the corruption-marred years following the Soviet collapse.

    "It is absolutely obvious that the motive of the tragedy was his professional activity, something he did with the ratings of the richest people in Russia," the Interfax news agency quoted Russian Union of Journalists secretary Igor Yakovenko as saying.

    "The people who became billionaires in months and who cannot explain where they had gotten this money, either to the world or to law-enforcement agencies, cannot stand such reports," Mr Yakovenko said, according to Interfax.

    Mr Klebnikov, born in the United States of Russian heritage, also authored a book about Boris Berezovsky, one of the tycoons who got rich in the chaotic and violent period of 1990s post-Soviet capitalism.

    In the course of writing about Mr Berezovsky, Mr Klebnikov interviewed Khozh-Akhmed Nukhayev, a former deputy prime minister in the Chechen separatist government who was rumoured to have provided criminal help to Mr Berezovsky.

    Mr Klebnikov last year published a book in Russian based on his interviews with Mr Nukhayev, Conversations With a Barbarian. Some newspapers on Monday suggested that book could have provoked the killing.

    "Up to the moment the book appeared on the shelves, Nukhayev didn't even suspect it was being prepared," the newspaper Vremya Novostei wrote.

    Also overnight, the newspaper Kommersant cited Mikhail Fishman, a journalist for the Russian edition of Newsweek who accompanied the mortally wounded Mr Klebnikov to the hospital, as saying that he was told by a doctor that Mr Klebnikov died while the elevator taking him to surgery was stuck.

    The international media watchdog Reporters Without Borders has said it was "shocked" by the killing and called on the Government to protect journalists. It said that five journalists were killed last year in Russia, and that official investigations have so far failed to uncover why they died.

    The car from which the shots were fired was found by police on Saturday, Russian news reports said.

    A US Embassy spokesman said the FBI's attache in Moscow has offered assistance to Russian authorities in investigating the killing, but declined to give details.

    Mr Klebnikov was able to speak after he was shot but couldn't say anything about what could have been the cause of the attack, according to Alexander Gordeyev, an editor of another magazine who came to Klebnikov's side as he lay outside the building.

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  • IPK
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    the russian mob is ruthless
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    • polish_aristocrat
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      • Jul 2002
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      #3
      Originally posted by IPK
      The people who became billionaires in months and who cannot explain where they had gotten this money
      probably started a tgp
      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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      • IPK
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        #4
        Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
        probably started a tgp
        Yeah, at worst they're probably spammers.
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        • BabeHunter
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          • Oct 2001
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          #5
          old news

          there are some subjects ppl should stay away from.
          Yep

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          • johnbosh
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            #6
            Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
            probably started a tgp
            lol that makes sence

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            • Rich
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              • Jan 2003
              • 11486

              #7
              Well no shit, what did they think would happen? Only American rich people want everyone knowing how much they're worth. I'll tell you something right now, you'll never see an Israeli Forbes 500 list.

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              • IPK
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                #8
                Originally posted by Rich
                Well no shit, what did they think would happen? Only American rich people want everyone knowing how much they're worth. I'll tell you something right now, you'll never see an Israeli Forbes 500 list.
                Yeah no kidding.
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                • IPK
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Rich
                  Well no shit, what did they think would happen? Only American rich people want everyone knowing how much they're worth. I'll tell you something right now, you'll never see an Israeli Forbes 500 list.
                  You'll never see a GFY 500 List either
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                  • Phoenix
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                    #10
                    mobster or not..this will not be good for whoever did the killing


                    im sure the russian police/army will simply get rid of him for making their country look like it is run by the mob.


                    get rid of him and take all his money...you dont go around killing whoever you want..lol


                    kill criminals no one cares...kill a magazine editor...you just brought the longest arm of the law down on you...congrats..lol
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                    • IPK
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Phoenix

                      im sure the russian police/army will simply get rid of him for making their country look like it is run by the mob.


                      but their country is run by the mob
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                      • Rich
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                        • Jan 2003
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by IPK
                        You'll never see a GFY 500 List either
                        Exactly.

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                        • BabeHunter
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                          • Oct 2001
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Phoenix
                          mobster or not..this will not be good for whoever did the killing
                          im sure the russian police/army will simply get rid of him for making their country look like it is run by the mob.
                          get rid of him and take all his money...you dont go around killing whoever you want..lol
                          kill criminals no one cares...kill a magazine editor...you just brought the longest arm of the law down on you...congrats..lol

                          dude
                          the rich guys own the country

                          no 1 will care about the dead editor...

                          it's russia...you can kidnap and kill who ever you want
                          the only guys that get into trouble are those who actully doing the killing
                          Yep

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                          • Rich
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                            • Jan 2003
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Phoenix
                            mobster or not..this will not be good for whoever did the killing


                            im sure the russian police/army will simply get rid of him for making their country look like it is run by the mob.


                            get rid of him and take all his money...you dont go around killing whoever you want..lol


                            kill criminals no one cares...kill a magazine editor...you just brought the longest arm of the law down on you...congrats..lol



                            Whoever did this probably does run the country.

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                            • sid375
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                              • Jul 2004
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by BabeHunter
                              old news

                              there are some subjects ppl should stay away from.

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                              • Phoenix
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                                • Nov 2002
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by IPK
                                but their country is run by the mob
                                and that is all cool


                                im down with that..i like the black brothers


                                but, there are somethings you can do, and some you cant


                                this guy willbe given up to put everyone at ease now
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                                • Manowar
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                  probably started a tgp

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                                  • Phoenix
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Rich


                                    Whoever did this probably does run the country.
                                    sadly you may be right...lol
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                                    • IPK
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Phoenix
                                      and that is all cool


                                      im down with that..i like the black brothers


                                      but, there are somethings you can do, and some you cant


                                      this guy willbe given up to put everyone at ease now
                                      yeah they'll probably take someone down for good show
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                                      • Nysus
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                                        #20
                                        I'm sure the Russian government would love to be able to legitimately cease one of their richest person's assets.

                                        Mind you, if you're really a smart rich person you'd have your money spread out over many off-shore places..

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                                        • IPK
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Nysus
                                          I'm sure the Russian government would love to be able to legitimately cease one of their richest person's assets.

                                          Mind you, if you're really a smart rich person you'd have your money spread out over many off-shore places..

                                          Cheers,
                                          Matt
                                          Yeah, they'll have to fight tooth and nail for that money.
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                                          • polish_aristocrat
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                                            • Jul 2002
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by BabeHunter
                                            old news

                                            there are some subjects ppl should stay away from.
                                            not on GFY
                                            I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                            • just a punk
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                                              • Jun 2003
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                              probably started a tgp
                                              tgp, spam, blah...blah...blah...blah. Do you hear something about gas and oil?.. 100% of all Russian billionaires sell gas and oil.
                                              Obey the Cowgod

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                                              • IPK
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by cyberxxx
                                                tgp, spam, blah...blah...blah...blah. Do you hear something about gas and oil?.. 100% of all Russian billionaires sell gas and oil.
                                                I'm not sure they'd have anything to hide if all they were doing is selling gas and oil.
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                                                • Lee
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by cyberxxx
                                                  tgp, spam, blah...blah...blah...blah. Do you hear something about gas and oil?.. 100% of all Russian billionaires sell gas and oil.
                                                  Errr.... humour perhaps?

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                                                  • iwantchixx
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                                                    #26
                                                    never trust a fucking russian, More corrupt than an Iraqi insurgant.

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                                                    • just a punk
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by IPK
                                                      I'm not sure they'd have anything to hide if all they were doing is selling gas and oil.
                                                      You are soooooo naive... Russian Jew mafia controls all gas and oil industry. It's much more criminal and bloody business than gambling or drug-selling.
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                                                      • just a punk
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by iwantchixx
                                                        never trust a fucking russian, More corrupt than an Iraqi insurgant.
                                                        I'd say never trust anyone if you don't know him well. For instance, I don't trust fucking canadians in a same way as I don't trust fucking russians if I don't know these guys personally.
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                                                        • IPK
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by cyberxxx
                                                          You are soooooo naive... Russian Jew mafia controls all gas and oil industry. It's much more criminal and bloody business than gambling or drug-selling.
                                                          Cite your reliable authority.
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                                                          • boobmaster
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                                                            • Jul 2003
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                            im sure the russian police/army will simply get rid of him for making their country look like it is run by the mob.
                                                            That country IS run by the mob!

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                                                            • just a punk
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                                                              • Jun 2003
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by IPK
                                                              Cite your reliable authority.
                                                              Do you know Russian language so I could show you a couple of good articles? Actually I don't think it'a a good idea to find such kind of info in say Chinese, Pakistan or American press
                                                              Obey the Cowgod

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                                                              • IPK
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by cyberxxx
                                                                Do you know Russian language so I could show you a couple of good articles? Actually I don't think it'a a good idea to find such kind of info in say Chinese, Pakistan or American press
                                                                Translate them into English for me.
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                                                                • just a punk
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by IPK
                                                                  Translate them into English for me.
                                                                  Sorry have no such a big free time for that. Learn Russian and read everything yourself. Take a look at me, English is not my mother language, however I can read it without any problem in case if I need that
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                                                                  • IPK
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by cyberxxx
                                                                    Sorry have no such a big free time for that. Learn Russian and read everything yourself. Take a look at me, English is not my mother language, however I can read it without any problem in case if I need that
                                                                    Okay then don't cite any authority.
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                                                                      • bjs24
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by cyberxxx
                                                                        Do you know Russian language so I could show you a couple of good articles? Actually I don't think it'a a good idea to find such kind of info in say Chinese, Pakistan or American press
                                                                        Lets see some links

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                                                                        • warlock5
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Well this might add more fuel to Putin's fire after Russia's richest man got arrested.

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                                                                          • pornstar2pac
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            I love the russians. I have no beefs with any of them
                                                                            Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

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                                                                            • Firehorse
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              The truth can be a very dangerous thing to deal in as history shows us!
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                                                                              • Gunni
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by IPK
                                                                                I'm not sure they'd have anything to hide if all they were doing is selling gas and oil.
                                                                                He's not joking, Roman Abramovich, not that many years ago he worked selling used car tiers, then some how he became the owner of an oil company and now lives in England, and just by moving there he became the richest man in England.

                                                                                Now what these guys have to hide is not the fact that they sell oil and gas, but the fact how they got into selling oil and gas ;)

                                                                                Oh, and it is not just Russion oil companies that do their busniss in a ruthless way, read up about western oilcompaniees like Shell operating in the third world...

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                                                                                • DarkJedi
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Lesson learned: don't fuck with russkies

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                                                                                  • RED&P RedEye
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Er...its not that easy as it looks like.
                                                                                    This Forbes stuff and billioners is way higher than just some rich person being nuts about someone disclosing that "WOW his in Mafia!"

                                                                                    Suppose someone says You're in the mafia and You got billions, so fucking what? Mass media says all kinds of bullshit all the time about rich people , about mafia, about government, so what? Who cares? No one's getting killed because of that.
                                                                                    (well..mostly)

                                                                                    Do You think russian mass media doesnt call our billion making dudes mafia? They do every fucking day and everyone is alive. The call Mr. Putin whatever they want and they are all alive.
                                                                                    (well....mostly)

                                                                                    It's all about different stuff.
                                                                                    Suppose You're Forbes , suppose You got friends in lets say company called Shell and lets assume Shell wants to buy lets say PUBLIC (thats important) local company in Africa "Oil Corporation of Republic of Nigeria". So You go and print that "Oil Corporation of Republic of Nigeria" is full of shit , mafia and drug money and all local small investors say "Wow, Forbes is never wrong" and guess what the price goes down, and here Shell is buying it for pennies.
                                                                                    That's just a small example.

                                                                                    One thing important to understand - there is no such thing as independent media. Especially in finances.
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                                                                                    • detroitiron
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      "The people who became billionaires in months..."
                                                                                      What the fuck........

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                                                                                      • Gunni
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by detroitiron
                                                                                        "The people who became billionaires in months..."
                                                                                        What the fuck........
                                                                                        Yes, it is kind of the same if you would all of a sudden become the owner of Shell

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                                                                                        • RED&P RedEye
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          It's no wonder.
                                                                                          There was no private property in Soviet Union. Everything belonged to the government.

                                                                                          However once Soviet time was over, the "privatization" started when normal people were making their flats and house their property and business was transferred to be private property as well.

                                                                                          So imagine You were a director of a huge oil factory in Soviet Times with an extreme salary of 500$ (no shit) and then in 1 day You had better possibility than anyone else to make the whole factory Yours, and the next day You wake up - You're a billioner.

                                                                                          As far as I recall they still think to sue the guy in the Govermnet who actually started that "privatization" process cause it fucked the whole country.
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                                                                                          • IPK
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by RED&P RedEye
                                                                                            Er...its not that easy as it looks like.
                                                                                            This Forbes stuff and billioners is way higher than just some rich person being nuts about someone disclosing that "WOW his in Mafia!"

                                                                                            Suppose someone says You're in the mafia and You got billions, so fucking what? Mass media says all kinds of bullshit all the time about rich people , about mafia, about government, so what? Who cares? No one's getting killed because of that.
                                                                                            (well..mostly)

                                                                                            Do You think russian mass media doesnt call our billion making dudes mafia? They do every fucking day and everyone is alive. The call Mr. Putin whatever they want and they are all alive.
                                                                                            (well....mostly)

                                                                                            It's all about different stuff.
                                                                                            Suppose You're Forbes , suppose You got friends in lets say company called Shell and lets assume Shell wants to buy lets say PUBLIC (thats important) local company in Africa "Oil Corporation of Republic of Nigeria". So You go and print that "Oil Corporation of Republic of Nigeria" is full of shit , mafia and drug money and all local small investors say "Wow, Forbes is never wrong" and guess what the price goes down, and here Shell is buying it for pennies.
                                                                                            That's just a small example.

                                                                                            One thing important to understand - there is no such thing as independent media. Especially in finances.
                                                                                            That's a pretty interesting point of view.

                                                                                            I think i somewhat agree with you.
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                                                                                            • Pornwolf
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Russia is the wild wild west. Not a good place to set up shop.
                                                                                              I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                                                                              Webair, bitches.

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                                                                                              • Gunni
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                                                                                Russia is the wild wild west. Not a good place to set up shop.
                                                                                                Actually probably the best place to set up shop (along with China), I know of these two Icelandic guys that went over there and set up a beer factory, with in a couple of years their beer (Bravo it was called I think) was the third most poular beer in Russia. Then they sold it to Heineken for $300 millions.

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                                                                                                • Vitasoy
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Russian Mafia in effect.


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                                                                                                  • baddog
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by cyberxxx
                                                                                                    tgp, spam, blah...blah...blah...blah. Do you hear something about gas and oil?.. 100% of all Russian billionaires sell gas and oil.
                                                                                                    wow

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