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  • NickPapageorgio
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2004
    • 8323

    #1

    3 rules to bridge the "Designer/Client" gap...

    Clients:

    Rule #1: Know what you want before you contact the designer. You don't need to know the entire layout or exactly what graphics you want but atleast have a fucking clue on colors and feel.

    Rule #2: Don't contact your designer when you needed the job done yesterday and then bitch when your project is behind schedule. Poor planning and project execution is not the designers fault. Look inward before blaming outward.

    Rule #3: Good design isn't cheap and cheap design isn't good.

    Designers:

    Rule #1: Don't promise what you cannot deliver. There are plenty of design jobs in the sea, if you don't have time for one then let the client know asap so they can get another designer on the project.

    Rule #2: Please and Thank You go a long way. Treat the client with respect and LISTEN to what they are telling you about the design they want.

    Rule #3: When in doubt, contact the client. Ask questions. It is going to save you time in the long run. I prefer to work alongside the clients I work for. It makes it easier on me to show them an example early on in the project before I have spent hours on something. If you are designing a page with a header logo, it is much easier to make the logo and show the client the design right away. This way if there are any color issues or style problems they can be dealt with before tackling the rest of the page.


    Finally, the golden rule:

    When you owe someone money, pay them. You know who you are and you know what I mean. Pay me my fucking money or take down the design. You have had 3 days and I am over waiting on you. Pay me now or your name goes out.
  • Oldy
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2002
    • 348

    #2
    good points nick, lots of people have misconecptions and wrong estimations which results in unhappy clients and designers

    will be contacting you for some design work soon

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    • Joesho
      want to get in shape
      • Jan 2003
      • 12329

      #3
      Becarful nickpappageorgio, you might make some of the Prima donna designers have to work to keep up with you....
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      • graphicsbytia
        Confirmed User
        • Sep 2003
        • 2618

        #4
        good post nick,

        We've developed something that's helped tremendously on both sides.

        It's a form for them to fill out asking questions about design concepts, and expectations. This has helped us avoid a lot of back and forthing between us and the clients and made things a lot more clear to both parties. It also helps when the client doesn't know exactly what they want

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        • Mike AI
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2001
          • 3624

          #5
          Pearl of a post!



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          • keyboard warrior
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2004
            • 1435

            #6
            even the best designers dont know what you really want.

            so you have to be a designer to show the better designer what you really want - this is what i have done.

            works reall well, just post the designer you ideas even if they suck to look at but the new guy has teh vison to make it better!

            so in short it is easyer to revamp a shit design then starting from scratch.
            - nothing here -

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            • digifan
              The Profiler
              • Oct 2002
              • 14618

              #7
              Originally posted by keyboard warrior
              even the best designers dont know what you really want.

              so you have to be a designer to show the better designer what you really want - this is what i have done.

              works reall well, just post the designer you ideas even if they suck to look at but the new guy has teh vison to make it better!

              so in short it is easyer to revamp a shit design then starting from scratch.
              You sound like the designers' dream
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              • Mishi
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2002
                • 1054

                #8
                Originally posted by NickPapageorgio
                Clients:

                Rule #1: Know what you want before you contact the designer. You don't need to know the entire layout or exactly what graphics you want but atleast have a fucking clue on colors and feel.

                Rule #2: Don't contact your designer when you needed the job done yesterday and then bitch when your project is behind schedule. Poor planning and project execution is not the designers fault. Look inward before blaming outward.

                Rule #3: Good design isn't cheap and cheap design isn't good.

                *Applause*
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                • mcmc
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 1705

                  #9
                  so true
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                  • fr8
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 5074

                    #10
                    Originally posted by NickPapageorgio

                    Finally, the golden rule:

                    When you owe someone money, pay them.
                    Possibly the best rule.
                    joesmut (a) gmail Dot com
                    Full Stack Developer

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                    • venturi
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2001
                      • 386

                      #11
                      Nick, will you marry me?

                      Actually, Mishi probably wouldn't much like sharing the bed with both of us...

                      I'm not a designer, but the same kind of stuff crops up in the programming world as well. Good post.
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                      • sean416
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 3633

                        #12
                        I hate designers! Except you, you seem cool.

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                        • abyss_al
                          **LOOKING FOR TRADES**
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 15605

                          #13
                          Originally posted by NickPapageorgio
                          Clients:

                          Rule #3: Good design isn't cheap and cheap design isn't good.

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                          • V_RocKs
                            Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 32448

                            #14
                            Something wrong Nick?

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                            • NickPapageorgio
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 8323

                              #15
                              Originally posted by V_RocKs
                              Something wrong Nick?
                              Not that I know of.

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                              • Lunae
                                Registered User
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 47

                                #16
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                                • Reak
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 17920

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by NickPapageorgio

                                  Finally, the golden rule:

                                  When you owe someone money, pay them. You know who you are and you know what I mean. Pay me my fucking money or take down the design. You have had 3 days and I am over waiting on you. Pay me now or your name goes out.
                                  Just to make sure the guy will read it.

                                  Great post Lee, always a pleasure doing business with you.

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                                  • girl_next_door
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jun 2004
                                    • 302

                                    #18
                                    i believe so! thanks for sharing NickPapageorgio
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