READ THIS !!! Most important thread

All you skeptics won´t believe until the gov´t that has lied to you all your lives tells you it´s so. Don´t you think that´s a conflict of interests and not just a little ironic?

Yes, nothing really major was disclosed in this video, it is a call for disclosure. And yes, it does support all those stories you´ve heard before but thought may not be true, so what does that tell you?

No nothing happened from it because we´re still reeling from 9/11 which occurred four months post. It got pushed way far back.

No, you don´t have to believe, but why after all the stories and the evidence, do you still refuse to believe? If you read a story about some new species of fish discovered would you be so skeptical? "Oh, there´s a new species of fish. Hm, makes me wonder what other discoveries we haven´t made yet." would I think be your reply. The only problem is that these species are kept secret.

Your skepticism is irrational in the face of decades of evidence. If there was nothing to these reports, why then did the government spend decades and billions of tax dollars investigating it?? Project Blue Book alone was open for 18 years. If we are to believe that the Roswell UFO was just a weather balloon, then why didn´t it end there?

There's tons of theories on free energy, yet nobody can make a free energy device. Hmm.

Going to watch it now, this better be worth it

"..... just because we can't see something, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's not there.

We are infants in understanding, and allthough we may think we know everything, we most certainly have no clue"

Albert Einstein prior to the discovery of nuclear fission theory.

Fission > Fusion

You're right.

But if we are infants in understanding, how much do infants understand ?

Sometimes I think young children are way smarter than an average adult, because they're not brainwashed yet.

quote at other forum :

"I saw this video when it was first released back in 2001. Amazing shit...


But this time when I watched it there was a portion removed from the original that I remember.


In the original I saw, I distinctly remember duriing the Q&A at the end, one reporter asked "Is there anyone who is violating a security oath by coming forward with this information?". That is when the lawyer interjected and told everyone that they should not answer that question. Then Greer went into the whole thing about how their oath would be null and void because the coverup of UFOs and close encounters by the govt was illegal. Good question.

I don´t think it is illegal though for the govt to make it quiet. What law(s) has anybody been made aware of to this fact??"

didnt go over so well

No one ever likes to think about it thats the problem, reminds of me of the matrix somewhat lol...

I have to admit that it amuses me to see the blind faith people put into government and religion.
Its classic.
Even tho history disproves almost all religions, yet churches are always full on sundays.

Truth is, people will beleive all kinds of bullshit but the thought that something more than a population of Zombies that only know how to Hate and Consume may be out there scares them too much.

If they had to beleive, it would shatter their reality and existance.
Plus they would figure out that they GOV has been lying to them for so long that they wont know what is true and what is not anymore. this would pretty much cause serious problems for an Ordered Non Thinking Society.

I worked the defense industry for more than a decade. I worked for the Crown family...who is General Dynamics... Western scientific data research... special programs-tomahawk, ACM, GLCMM , seawolf subs and more.

I've seen and done things I'm ashamed of, other things I've never been more proud, but I have met people that scare the bejezuss out of you there. When I talked to a retireing engineer once in 1990 I asked point blank about the space plane program and he just looked at me and his eyes got all big and said that i was best not to ask questions like that in public, he never spoke to me again and I never heard of him again - ever.

S.D. has great underground caves, or building structures that were at one time full and occupied. The russians flew in on their Antov124s all the time and spent hours at airforce plant 19. We had buildings within buidlings guarded by armed guards and you could hear and feel things going on underneath the main floor level. (think sublevels like the alien 2 movie) Huge exhaust vents coming up out of the ground from somewhere deep. If you were to stop and have lunch out on the tarmac, you could feel the ground bounce up and down as liftrucks moved back and forth - the entire site was a slab of cement suspended over something else. I was not allowed under ground but had free reign above ground.

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I originally respond to this thread with a simple statement. -that back in 94 my life was very bad (hasnt really recovered yet) (GD was closing it's doors in 95)
As it is I decided to do some soul searching and shucked everything and drove to death valley. I drove up above the "kitchen" about 10 miles maybe 20 and drove off the road and hid my car. I then proceeded to walk west into the valley for abotut 4 hrs till I couldnt see or hear nothing. It was here on a salt flat area that I saw my first "ufo thing" and I DID have my old film camera and I got one picture of it. one. I wil post it here in a day or so (I have to get my scanner back up working) and I will post it in this thread.

I first saw it bouncing along the ground much like a big squishy balloon, but it didn't malform when I touched(?) the ground, it was a long ways off and I couldnt see details, only behaviors.

after I took the picture. I decided I had nothing better to do so I walked its way to see if I could see better. I was on completely flat ground with no brush and the earth was rock hard and brittle.

I maybe walked 10 minutes toward it when all of a sudden it bounced straight up and it just disappeared.
thats it.... nothing more. gone.
I went farther but couldnt find a trace.
later... I gotta go.

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Oh BTW when Convair shut down and the tomahawk criuse missle center next door closed its doors.. there was a vast underground assembly meeting conference center there , yet somehow the city put a parkig lot over it, I dont remember them tearing all that stuff up and filling the monsterous hole that would have been left (it was a big place. you could have flown a smal plane in it if you had too.) So I assume that its still there intact. But who knows.

that would be cool

Buff you are a fuckin moron, you have a limited brain like an ant.
And like an ant you will never know anything about space not because you are not reading about it, but because you are not capable to understand any of it.

Let me ask you...

How big is the universe?
I say its endless, can we understand endless??? Answer is no!
Just think that somewhere in the universe is a wall and on that wall it says end of the universe. Then I would like to ask what is behind that wall?
The only answer that I can get is that the wall is endless or behind that wall is "again" endless universe.

How strange is that? And only UFO's are strange for you???

Do you really think that the whole universe are rotating around earth...that we are the only ones in the endless universe?

You're contradicting yourself !

You say we are so dumb to believe the universe rotates around earth, that we are the center of it all, egocentric people.

On the other hand you assume there could be a wall (human invention) stating "this is the end of the universe", written by humans.

To understand the universe, you need to let go everything you learned.

Or do you assume that aliens feel, see, think like we do ?

John Maynard from Defence Intelligence Agency is one of the speakers in the video. I have seen a documentary of this guy and he is good. If i remember well he sued the govt for not opening certain files regarding alien cases. He ended up in supreme court and the judge decided not to give any info about 50+ year old files because they would threaten the national security.......Now that makes you wonder big time!

So true.

I still haven't gotten around to watching it.

Not to sound totally wacko, but here is a thought....

All these aliens tend to "look" like us... basically 2 eyes 2 arms 2 legs, walk upright etc... Now the chance of another being developing those same characteristics are slim.

So, just what if, in our distant future mankind itself has evolved into these beings. And using time travel, is going back and forth to "change" things as needed to survive. Why would it be so far fetched to think something like this against the traveling of such vast distance to get here. We are basically surrounded by infinite possibility. Course, we could just be a seed planted by others out there also... or even simply flashed into existence by a single higer power looking for someone to worship him...