Originally posted by Nysus LOL. Not at all, I've just been asked that 3 times in the past week or two. Why the fuck does it bother people so much? Get a hobby.
BradM - Yes because putting it in my signature would work well to make the point to be more personal.
Cheers,
Matt
I never wrote anything to suggest that it bothers me. I only asked why you do it.
I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.
Originally posted by Nysus LOL. Not at all, I've just been asked that 3 times in the past week or two. Why the fuck does it bother people so much? Get a hobby.
I would figure its a clue that it looks a bit weird?
But then, not everyone cares about looking weird.
I used to do it too, when I was on AWI and signatures were off, but it really has become pointless over time.
to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and
to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and
to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained, and
to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,
AND FOR THESE ENDS
to practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbours, and
to unite our strength to maintain international peace and security, and
to ensure, by the acceptance of principles and the institution of methods, that armed force shall not be used, save in the common interest, and
to employ international machinery for the promotion of the economic and social advancement of all peoples,
HAVE RESOLVED TO COMBINE OUR EFFORTS TO ACCOMPLISH THESE AIMS
Phoenix - The arguments have been made by many already, exists in lots of literature.
BRISK - Sure, okay.
TeenGodFather - I'm sure seeing the "You have this person on ignore. Click here to view their response." would be more annoying.
Lane - Well if you're trying to get people to change from what you prefer / from being weird (or different than the norm) then you might as well go after Juicy for his bright and colourful smiley in his signature...
Originally posted by titmowse WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED
to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and
to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and
to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained, and
to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,
AND FOR THESE ENDS
to practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbours, and
to unite our strength to maintain international peace and security, and
to ensure, by the acceptance of principles and the institution of methods, that armed force shall not be used, save in the common interest, and
to employ international machinery for the promotion of the economic and social advancement of all peoples,
HAVE RESOLVED TO COMBINE OUR EFFORTS TO ACCOMPLISH THESE AIMS
And then you need to add....
EXCEPT ANY SUPERPOWER COUNTRIES THAT DON'T WANT TO FOLLOW THIS DON'T HAVE TO
Originally posted by Nysus Phoenix - The arguments have been made by many already, exists in lots of literature.
BRISK - Sure, okay.
TeenGodFather - I'm sure seeing the "You have this person on ignore. Click here to view their response." would be more annoying.
Lane - Well if you're trying to get people to change from what you prefer / from being weird (or different than the norm) then you might as well go after Juicy for his bright and colourful smiley in his signature...
Cheers,
Matt
well i was just wondering what your post was about...i mean, if i start a thread on a subject i usually give some material.
Not trashing you, you are usually well spoken, and i wanted more then just the few words you tossed out there. What has set you off?
i happen to think we are going to see an even larger presence from the UN as world government is the only possible salvation for us.
Originally posted by genomega This worked well until the thugs and crooks took over.
Example:
US to veto expected UN resolution condemning Israel
By TOVAH LAZAROFF AND AP
The United States has reassured Israel that it will veto a United Nations resolution calling for imposing sanctions on Israel for its construction of the West Bank security fence, which the International Court of Justice deemed as illegal in its Friday ruling.
Diplomatic sources in the Prime Minister's Office told Israel Radio Saturday that if the Palestinians decide to pass the ICJ's ruling for a discussion at the United Nations' General Assembly and press for the issuing of a resolution condemning Israel, the United States will veto such resolution.
The United States has reassured Israel that it will veto a United Nations resolution calling for imposing sanctions on Israel for its construction of the West Bank security fence, which the International Court of Justice deemed as illegal in its Friday ruling.
Yet another reason why some claim the UN is "useless" - simply because they are not in agreement. It's like the little boys in the school yard with their own "agendas" and if, necessary lying like hell to the prove the point - eg "evidence of WMD in Iraq".
There is also "disagreement" over the ICJ - the rogue regimes in this world clearly don't need any International Court of Justice (or International Criminal Court), telling em how it is.
The UN represents the International Community - whether some like it or not. Each member state is has a say - if they don't like it, quit using "excuses" and piss off out of the "International Community".
Originally posted by Phoenix well i was just wondering what your post was about...i mean, if i start a thread on a subject i usually give some material.
Not trashing you, you are usually well spoken, and i wanted more then just the few words you tossed out there. What has set you off?
i happen to think we are going to see an even larger presence from the UN as world government is the only possible salvation for us.
I just didn't have time to post any information. It's just something that's always been something unjust and bothered me. What 'set me off' is just the comments that are right that the US will veto anything against Israel, just another example of the crap that goes on.
And I agree with you that something larger will happen, it will have to happen.
Never thought you were trashing me either. Not sure why everyone thinks I'm being attacked.
Yet another reason why some claim the UN is "useless" - simply because they are not in agreement. It's like the little boys in the school yard with their own "agendas" and if, necessary lying like hell to the prove the point - eg "evidence of WMD in Iraq".
There is also "disagreement" over the ICJ - the rogue regimes in this world clearly don't need any International Court of Justice (or International Criminal Court), telling em how it is.
The UN represents the International Community - whether some like it or not. Each member state is has a say - if they don't like it, quit using "excuses" and piss off out of the "International Community".
Originally posted by Nysus I just didn't have time to post any information. It's just something that's always been something unjust and bothered me. What 'set me off' is just the comments that are right that the US will veto anything against Israel, just another example of the crap that goes on.
And I agree with you that something larger will happen, it will have to happen.
Never thought you were trashing me either. Not sure why everyone thinks I'm being attacked.
Cheers,
Matt
I think the UN is a waste as well with the exception of a tolken relief effort on a occasional humanitarian issue once the problem has already reached a catestrophic or endemic state.
It's 180 something perspectives, motivations, religious ideaologies and political agenda's that never mesh on any real problem.
Last edited by Pleasurepays; 07-10-2004, 02:29 PM.
Probably, even though I don't like the UN, and believe the structure lends it to be almost irrelevant b/c of the security council veto power...it is still an important tool for keeping the world enganged.
The U.S. can be too heavy handed at times, and the U.N. allows some form of moderation. I think the war in Iraq has shown how important a bit of moderation can be, if only to force countries to be accountable to display their rational.
Unfortunately, the U.N. only has any sort of say with regards to the U.S., b/c they are really the only nation who considers any sort of moral authority to rectify global problems. Therefore, the U.S. will actually LISTEN and try to present a case to the U.N. and not just try to steam role their puppet authority.
So, in absence of the cold war superpower (that the U.S. would think about before engaging in any war outside S. america), the U.N. serves as a role almost like a priest...
they can only condemn you or bless you, but can't help you or hurt you. Oh yeah, you can buy their blessing as well.
Never the less, it is always good to be reminded that other people are watching wha tyou do.
Pleasurepays--
that's also why the EU as a political union won't do shit.
Originally posted by Pleasurepays I think the UN is a waste as well with the exception of a tolken relief effort on a occasional humanitarian issue once the problem has already reached a catestrophic or endemic state.
It's 180 something perspectives, motivations, religious ideaologies and political agenda's that never mesh on any real problem.
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