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Old 06-09-2002, 05:48 AM  
codecrawler
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Right!

Lets see how it holds up. I'll go through your comments one by one


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Codecrawler, you obviously don't have a clue what you're talking about, putting words in people's mouths, assuming things are going to happen that are absolute bullshit (expect the price to go up, utter crap, sorry) and quoting things that play 6 years in the past.
Doesn't matter if it's in the past fact remains you still did it! and knowingly. People and yourself paid for bandwidth back then and they still do now so you fucked them knowingly what you did to them and their wallets! And that to me is a damn good reason to not trust you now. Because it shows what you are capable off. People new to this business don't know this and should know who they are dealing with. Also last time I checked DOS attacks are illegal and you did that less then a year ago and could still be doing it for all I know. Again knowing it's illegal. Now granted for some you had good reasons but that that does not put you above the law just because you know the SOB's you dossed can't afford a lawyer to nail ya! again a very good reason NOT to trust you as you use the law only if it's in your benefit(At least that's what it shows to me)

In case you don'r remember:

http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/sh...un%2A+ attack


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I NEVER did anything illegal with my posts. Stolen content is not posted on my site if I know about it, copyright issues are dealt with swiftly, NapsterX changed the wording on their ads to say 'free 3 day trial passes' instead of 'free access to paysites'. You haven't got a clue what is going on here, so don't make statements like you DO know...
As for doing illegal things yourself see my above comment to your first remark as for what you list here's a sample of what's up there right now!

From your main page:

June 8: Nude celebrities (pics and movies) from Scooter

You know damn well that celeb pics like that aren't for sale yet you list them.

Your Archives:

January 31: Graham sent these swedish celebs

The dude even admits on the page he doesn't have rights or license to the pics! (see bottom disclaimer on the page)

January 30: Spanish celebs from Graham

Same deal

January 29: French celebrities from Graham


Once again

Now there are listing on every day in januari so I suspect it's a paid for listing. So either you never bothered to check, didn't/don't care or you really need a new lawyer.

And don't tell me because he buys spots often he knows what he's doing, because with a disclaimer like that it's obvious he doesn't!

Last time I checked knowingly listing illegal(stolen in this case) material is illegal and you did/do.

Again not very trustworthy and shows that you only want to ban what can hurt you, which makes it an action to benefit you, not the submitting webmaster at all, as cheaters that buy listing still get placed my friend!

Imagine what I could find if I really spent time browsing your site

How many things like this:

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Just yesterday you listed this one, hotlinking a ton of movies from sympatico.ca:

http://www.totalsexmovies.com/ebony/ebony01hun.html




Hmmmmm
Would I encounter?

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We're working on a solution here to get something good going. TGP2 is not an option, you have the same cheaters there, and you will get more once TGP2 is getting traffic, which it still doesn't... Cheaters aren't interested in redirecting 100 users. They want 100,000 users they can cheat on. That's why I want to spend a lot of effort in building something to prevent the whole industry going downhill with cheaters.
Oh I agree with that, I just don't agree in having it controlled by one guy or organisation. IMHO it needs to be taken care of at the site and is the responsibility of the TGP site owner. Again as I stated before can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen.

Anything controled by one guy or company creates power over what is controlled, which is never a good thing (And why monopolies are forbidden BTW)

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Many sites out there redirect foreign traffic. 'cause it's "unproductive". If it's unproductive, redirect it to a page that says so, don't redirect 'em to MoneyTree or whatever so they'll get slapped around the ears with consoles. Some people clearly fail to see completely that the surfer is our customer, not a number. 'traffic' as we know it is a bunch of individuals who - approached correcly - will pay if they see something they like.
So don't list those but don't try to controll it, and with what you propose is exactly that an attempt to controll it.

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When TGP2 started people predected my site would be dead... I still don't see a TGP2 site high up in the charts. Not that it's a bad concept. But many people seem to think that only their way is right. And that's absolute bullshit. But this discussion was not about TGP2...
Correct it's not about TGP2 so no argument from me there

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If a good tracking system is in place both link-sites and TGP2's will benefit from it. Including honest gallery posters, paysites, content owners, hosts... you name it! Anonymous Internet is one... I truly believe surfing the net should be something you can do anonymously. But being a publisher on the web, why should that be anonymous. A good registering system would put a quick end to problems like childpornography on the Internet.
I agree with the first half not to the second it won't even put a dent in the CP underground. because those don't post to TGP's and have their own scene(sadly) to eradicate CP you need to eradicate the producers of it anything else won't stand a chance of even touching it!

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And again, if you don't like it, don't go there. Honestly I do think I have the traffic to back up making it a little harder to submit. However there is a problem with people that don't have a creditcard. Or with people that have a thousand of 'em through a generator. Also, my lawyer is checking if the information provided can be used against people who do end up stealing content.
I certainly won't use your system, neither as a TGP siteowner nor as a gallerybuilder. But you posted it public for discussion so I give my honest opinion, I still say you do it for the cash.

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People somehow don't like being watched. And a registration system shouldn't mean that people don't dare to do business on the web anymore. On the other hand people that play things honestly don't have anything to hide. I'm gather info, thinking of ways to get this all going... Everyone's comments here help a lot! Thank you for that!
Offcource they don't specialy not by people they don't know or trrust and no offence I do not trust you for a second given yoru past action I elaborated on in this post.

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Oh, one more reaction "Once again I say it's a scam to make goo don decreasing sales from the ads on the Yellow pages."... haha... so you really think that if people get charged 5 bucks for a registration and let's say 1000 people sign up. that's 5000 one time fee. 12% fee for the CC company, building a website, paying the hosting... for 5000 USD?! Even IF my banner sales were down (which they're not) I really don't think all this work is worth 5000 USD...
You and I both know that it won't stop at thousand hell I had a list containing 400,000 TGP gallerybuilders 2 years back so right now I estimate it's even more. And that's what you are looking forward to cashing in on.

You can defend this all you like you can not change my opinion about it. If you were truly after creating a system to catch cheaters you wouldn't go after a fee at all. after all the money it costs you save on the time saved weeding out cheaters. If I read your proposal right it pays itself back as it benefits all(or so you say, I beg to differ)

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Damn, I didn't even read that comment you wrote the first time, but it does show how far off you are from getting the point.
I don't think I am, I think judging by your reply I'm getting to close for comfort actualy

Have a nice day!

CC
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