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Old 05-11-2005, 07:04 PM  
Rich
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Originally Posted by Jim Neil
"By the late 1950?s the Americans developed the ?Domino Theory? as a justification for the involvement. This theory stated, ?If South Vietnam falls to the Communist, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Burma, India and Pakistan would also fall like dominos. The Pacific Islands and even Australia could be at risk?. " http://www.learnhistory.org.uk/vietnam/reasons.htm

If one country falls, they all fall. At the time this was a big deal. It forced us to go help. Perhaps its not the best answer, but it does fit the bill.
And as far as Iraq goes... AT THE TIME when we first invaded, our country thought it was the best thing to do. If there was more out cry we would not have done it. As the war progressed we have seen that "there was a flaw". The flaw was that people were lieing to get us to war.
As has been stated in past threads, i dont think that Americans really care what goes on. They all think "hey, its not me over there" when the reality is it could be anyone over there fighting. A draft might actually make people start to care when \ if we goto war.
And i couldn't agree with you more. Alot of people are making ALOT of cash from this war. On all the shit that is bought and contracts that are given out. Its a huge waste of American money. We really cant just up and leave right now though. That would be doing a MAJOR disservice to the country of Iraq.
I realize that was the justification given to the people, obviously the guys in charge didn't believe that any more than the neo-cons believed that Iraq was a threat.

There was plenty of outcry before the Iraq war, the American media just ignored it. The largest number of protesters worldwide in history gathered before the war started. Most cities in the world had protests. Almost everyone outside of America realized that the war was wrong, because they aren't subjected to the US cocoon where the only truth is what they tell you. The neo-cons knew exactly what they were doing, they weren't afraid of Iraq's WMD capabilities, they knew they had none. The entire war hysteria was a pre-fabricated show to convince Americans that the war was the right thing to do so the robber barons could loot hundreds of billions of dollars from the treasury that should be going to things like educating children and proving health care for poor people. You didn't know that the war was the wrong thing to do because they didn't let you know that.

You say that leaving Iraq now would do a disservice to the country of Iraq, it's important to realize that's just the lie that they're feeding you now. The war is going to continue until Americans leave, you're not helping anybody by staying there. The resistance will never stop while an American puppet government is allowing US corporations to loot the country's natural resources, which is exactly what's happening. The people of Iraq want American troops gone, that's why they were so enthusiastic about voting, they all thought they were voting to get rid of the occupation. Of course that's not how it was reported in the USA, but everyone else in the world knows that. In five years once you're forced out, you'll say the same thing about wanting to stay there as you say now about starting the war, we didn't know. There's a reason you don't know, and it's NOT because the people in charge don't know. It's because they don't want YOU to know.

The media tells you over and over again that Americans don't care what the rest of the world thinks, and they insult allied countries where the opposition is the greatest. That's so no one pays attention to the legitimate objections people outside the bubble have.

The US media doesn't tell you what's going on, they tell you how to think.
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