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Domain transfer legality and morality

05-10-2005, 09:41 AM

Alrighty, so I was looking over a few prime domain names checking the status [locked/active] and some really good domains are left active.

Putting morals aside, how does the law look apon it if you were to send in a transfer for 'xdomain.com' and the other person didn't decline the transfer and you become the new owner. I assumed it would be theft of some sort, but thinking about it I'm not so sure anymore.

Not that i'm thinking about it.. *cough* but i'm genuinly [sp] curious.
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05-10-2005, 09:44 AM

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05-10-2005, 09:47 AM

I know someone who tried this through enom just for the hell of it and the transfer got declined because the other party did not respond.
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05-10-2005, 09:48 AM

It's all fine until you go to prison and get assraped.
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05-10-2005, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by raulph

I know someone who tried this through enom just for the hell of it and the transfer got declined because the other party did not respond.

But was the status of that domain "ACTIVE"?
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05-10-2005, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by Mr Dickovitch

It's all fine until you go to prison and get assraped.

Prison? What makes you think transferring a domain name is illegal? The owner has every right to decline the transfer.
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05-10-2005, 09:51 AM

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Prison? What makes you think transferring a domain name is illegal? The owner has every right to decline the transfer.

That's like saying that it's OK to steal a car because the owner wasn't there to decline your borrowing it. You're a winner.
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05-10-2005, 09:52 AM

hey i just initiated a transfer on some of your hentai domains
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05-10-2005, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by Project-Shadow

Alrighty, so I was looking over a few prime domain names checking the status [locked/active] and some really good domains are left active.

Putting morals aside, how does the law look apon it if you were to send in a transfer for 'xdomain.com' and the other person didn't decline the transfer and you become the new owner. I assumed it would be theft of some sort, but thinking about it I'm not so sure anymore.

Not that i'm thinking about it.. *cough* but i'm genuinly [sp] curious.

It's theft.

Any more questions?
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05-10-2005, 09:54 AM

Yes it was. Maybe it is just enom.
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05-10-2005, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by wdsguy

hey i just initiated a transfer on some of your hentai domains

I remembered to lock mine ^_^

Cheers DomBuyer.
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05-10-2005, 09:55 AM

Its not morale, and theft, but you could get off with a good lawyer. Especially when the owner of the domain no longer has access to the listed email and the domain is inactive.
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05-10-2005, 09:55 AM

What is a registrar that doesnt do 2 way transfer confirmations?
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05-10-2005, 09:57 AM

It's stealing - no if's ands or butts

I remember a few yrs ago I went to transfer gasoline.org to one of my other accounts and accidently typed in gasoline.com and it got approved and transfered to me. I was scared. I called the company who owned it and transfered it back.

They were so happy and pissed that one of there people approved the transfer. Sent me 3 bottles of good wine

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05-10-2005, 09:58 AM

You can't tranfer a domain to a new owner without confirmation from the current owner. At least not by simply sending in a transfer request.
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05-10-2005, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by sextoyking

It's stealing - no if's ands or butts

I remember a few yrs ago I went to transfer gasoline.org to one of my other accounts and accidently typed in gasoline.com and it got approved and transfered to me. I was scared. I called the company who owned it and transfered it back.

They were so happy and pissed that one of there people approved the transfer. Sent me 3 bottles of good wine

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05-10-2005, 09:59 AM

But the new rules tend to state that if the current owner doesnt reply to the request than the domain gets transfered. I am saying that this isnt true with enom and asking if anyone else has experience with this
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05-10-2005, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by Project-Shadow

Alrighty, so I was looking over a few prime domain names checking the status [locked/active] and some really good domains are left active.

Putting morals aside, how does the law look apon it if you were to send in a transfer for 'xdomain.com' and the other person didn't decline the transfer and you become the new owner. I assumed it would be theft of some sort, but thinking about it I'm not so sure anymore.

Not that i'm thinking about it.. *cough* but i'm genuinly [sp] curious.

Lol, you're not sure if that is theft or not? It is. The owner can take you to court, sue, and win.

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05-10-2005, 10:01 AM

Well it wasn't my domain, so I had no right you know. Also, they had a join venture with one of the big oil companies, exxon, or chevron, etc. They would of stomped the crap out of anyone taking away there property

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05-10-2005, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by SomeCreep

Lol, you're not sure if that is theft or not? It is. The owner can take you to court, sue, and win.

Well I was assuming it was, but considering this is the internet, and with the 'new' Icann rules, I was also assuming that certain laws were changed or modified to accompany that change. Guess not eh.
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05-10-2005, 10:04 AM

It was an honest mistake, but your an honest person. A dishonest person would have parked the domain and made money off traffic for a year while the domain name gets publicity on the internet, in the end, might just settle out of court with giving the domain back
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05-10-2005, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by sextoyking

Well it wasn't my domain, so I had no right you know. Also, they had a join venture with one of the big oil companies, exxon, or chevron, etc. They would of stomped the crap out of anyone taking away there property

You should have reported your story to dnjournal or a few online news sites. Get your name out there ;)
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05-10-2005, 10:08 AM

ah, I didn't think of the PR side of it

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05-10-2005, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by sextoyking

ah, I didn't think of the PR side of it

And that stuff is easy to believe to, I just made the same mistake a week ago confusing a .com with a .org, good thing i noticed quick.
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05-10-2005, 10:32 AM

I have a similar situtation where I aquired a domain that is used as the email contact for a monster domain, this is real big.

Its being redirected by the current owners (a major european company) to another on topic domain at the moment. Not really being used properly.

It expires this year and I assume I'm going to get the renewal request as I've got a catcall on the admin email domain.

Been racking my brains to think if there was a way I could legally take control of it, but if I wait until it expires it will just get snapped by a backorder house.

Could buy a house with this one but I'd never be able to sleep if it wasn't all above board.
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05-10-2005, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by raulph

Honest with a million dollar asset. This world needs more people like you

He is definitely in a class of his own and pure class....

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05-10-2005, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by Raven

He is definitely in a class of his own and pure class....

Hi Raven

I could not agree more!

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05-10-2005, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by sextoyking

Well it wasn't my domain, so I had no right you know. Also, they had a join venture with one of the big oil companies, exxon, or chevron, etc. They would of stomped the crap out of anyone taking away there property

More than likely you would have been found 6 feet under but kudos to you for being honest. More people should be. These days you have to triple check everything before making a deal.
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