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  • Jace
    FBOP Class Of 2013
    • Jan 2004
    • 35562
    #1

    Stop giving away free hardcore

    does anyone else feel that we should limit what is out there for free to softcore and other non-hardcore shots?

    tony404 and I were chatting about this and hopefully he will chime in too, but we both feel like there is WAY too much shit out there for free....certain people actually mentioned when they redid their tours to not include hardcore, the signups increased

    i just want some feelings and opinions on this matter

    I have actually stopped giving away all hardcore content for our affiliates and our galleries will no longer show hardcore
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    • Spunky
      I need a beer
      • Jun 2002
      • 133978
      #2
      It's too late...were doomed

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        • Jace
          FBOP Class Of 2013
          • Jan 2004
          • 35562
          #3
          Originally posted by spunky1
          It's too late...were doomed

          haha, nice response

          sadly, i partially agree

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            • Sly_RJ
              Live Hard - Die Hard
              • Feb 2002
              • 17042
              #4
              And how exactly do you propose this happen?
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                • Mack
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 1017
                  #5
                  yep I agree 100%. We give the surfer enough to get off and get out. and some people don't realize that a man who just busted a nut isn't going for the visa he's reaching for a tissue.

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                    • psyko514
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                      • Oct 2002
                      • 22366
                      #6
                      ok, i stopped. i took down my sites. what now?

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                        • Jace
                          FBOP Class Of 2013
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 35562
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                          And how exactly do you propose this happen?
                          well, for one.....sponsors can stop giving it away to promote their sites with....just give away everything but the hardcore....just give away the teaser shots

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                            • Sly_RJ
                              Live Hard - Die Hard
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 17042
                              #8
                              Originally posted by JaceXXX
                              well, for one.....sponsors can stop giving it away to promote their sites with....just give away everything but the hardcore....just give away the teaser shots
                              How do you suggest I do that with Angels of Porn and Stroke Jobs?
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                                • pine
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 1373
                                  #9
                                  Let's say 90% of webmasters agree with you, and they all stop making galleries with explicit hardcore. The other 10% will make a killing, and become the next Hun. Good idea, but unfortunately impractical in today's game.
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                                    • Jace
                                      FBOP Class Of 2013
                                      • Jan 2004
                                      • 35562
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Mack
                                      yep I agree 100%. We give the surfer enough to get off and get out. and some people don't realize that a man who just busted a nut isn't going for the visa he's reaching for a tissue.
                                      no shit, if I was a surfer of porn, i would NEVER buy a fucking membership....there is WAY too much out there for free to waste my money even paying for something

                                      i know it is impossible to even consider everyone stop giving the "good stuff" away for free....but if everyone that owned a paysite or sponsor program on this board did it, that would make one hell of an impact

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                                        • Spunky
                                          I need a beer
                                          • Jun 2002
                                          • 133978
                                          #11
                                          It is pretty rare to find movies that aren't hardcore,and you have to have updates

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                                            • emthree
                                              Dialer Kingpin
                                              • Jun 2003
                                              • 10816
                                              #12
                                              Whoever participates in your boycott will be spoon feeding signups to the sites that do offer hardcore content

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                                                • Sly_RJ
                                                  Live Hard - Die Hard
                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                  • 17042
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                  but if everyone that owned a paysite or sponsor program on this board did it, that would make one hell of an impact
                                                  You're right, it would have a HUGE impact. Those sponsors wouldn't get shit for traffic anymore.
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                                                    • Jace
                                                      FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                      • 35562
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                                                      How do you suggest I do that with Angels of Porn and Stroke Jobs?
                                                      creativity ain't one of your strong points huh?

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                                                        • Sly_RJ
                                                          Live Hard - Die Hard
                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                          • 17042
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                          creativity ain't one of your strong points huh?
                                                          Nope. I is stupid.
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                                                            • Jace
                                                              FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                              • 35562
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                                                              You're right, it would have a HUGE impact. Those sponsors wouldn't get shit for traffic anymore.
                                                              actually, i have chatted with people that have changed the hardcore to softcore on the galleries and their tour is all softcore or implied hardcore...and their sales have gone up in the long term with the same traffic

                                                              it is all right to be scared of something new, but when your unknowledgable about the outcome of something you have not tried you end up looking unintelligent

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                                                                • the Shemp
                                                                  congrats to the winners
                                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                                  • 10891
                                                                  #17
                                                                  the more soft core sites, the better...
                                                                  i use Vacares...so should you
                                                                  Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

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                                                                    • NickPapageorgio
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Apr 2004
                                                                      • 8323
                                                                      #18
                                                                      The only way it would work is if everyone had the same mindset. I agree totally with what you are saying though. But you have some people who will disagree and won't do it. A surfer left with a hard dick is more apt to pull out a credit card than one that just busted his nut. It would be a great thing for signups if that was to happen industry wide but it won't. The biggest rule of thumb with sales is always leave the customer with their tongue hanging out dying to get their hands on your product. That is with ANYTHING you are selling. If they have already busted their nut then the magic is over.

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                                                                        • Sly_RJ
                                                                          Live Hard - Die Hard
                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                          • 17042
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                                          actually, i have chatted with people that have changed the hardcore to softcore on the galleries and their tour is all softcore or implied hardcore...and their sales have gone up in the long term with the same traffic

                                                                          it is all right to be scared of something new, but when your unknowledgable about the outcome of something you have not tried you end up looking unintelligent
                                                                          That's lovely. Are you going to be able to convince all of your affiliates and new affiliates the same thing? First thing they'll say "you don't have any hardcore content, what the fuck?" Now I don't know about your sites, but all of ours are hardcore. The paysites are hardcore. The content is hardcore. We don't have softcore content.

                                                                          So what are you suggesting? I censor all of the images? That may work great on the tours, I might even test it out. But the galleries? That isn't going to fly. TGP owners aren't going to list hosted galleries or submitted galleries that are censored. If you happen to know the odd couple who do, please let me know so I can start submitting galleries to their huge TGPs.

                                                                          I don't look unintelligent, I look realistic. Things would be a lot better without free porn period. Why don't you chase that pipe dream?
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                                                                            • 80smetal
                                                                              Registered User
                                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                                              • 505
                                                                              #20
                                                                              pipe dream

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                                                                                • jukeboxfrank
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                                  • 1207
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  I was thinking the same thing. I dont show any hard core on tour
                                                                                  and it does not seem to stop people from joining..


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                                                                                    • the Shemp
                                                                                      congrats to the winners
                                                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                                                      • 10891
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      you softcore guys can save lots of money on content.
                                                                                      just scan JC Penny catalog lingerie section pix...link them direct to your tours..........
                                                                                      i use Vacares...so should you
                                                                                      Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

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                                                                                        • Sly_RJ
                                                                                          Live Hard - Die Hard
                                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                                          • 17042
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Now Jace, if you DO have softcore content I'm sure your idea may definitely have its benefits. But I was asking how I could do something like that with our sites, then you insulted me. Thanks sweetie.
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                                                                                            • 80smetal
                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                                                              • 505
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              see alot of mindset here is people think they need to tgp's to make money and garner traffic, fuck that. I gain traffic by my own standards and dont need to follow rules set forth by tgp's. Think outside the box on traffic generation and stop thinking "galleries" all the fuckin time

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                                                                                                • BlueCactus
                                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                                                  • 51
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  I it is continually given away for free why would anyone bother paying a membership
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                                                                                                    • Easton
                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                                      • 9825
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by the Shemp
                                                                                                      you softcore guys can save lots of money on content.
                                                                                                      just scan JC Penny catalog lingerie section pix...link them direct to your tours..........
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                                                                                                        • the Shemp
                                                                                                          congrats to the winners
                                                                                                          • Nov 2001
                                                                                                          • 10891
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by 80smetal
                                                                                                          see alot of mindset here is people think they need to tgp's to make money and garner traffic, fuck that. I gain traffic by my own standards and dont need to follow rules set forth by tgp's. Think outside the box on traffic generation and stop thinking "galleries" all the fuckin time
                                                                                                          exactly right, no one ever made you or anyone else submit to a TGP.
                                                                                                          i use Vacares...so should you
                                                                                                          Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

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                                                                                                            • 80smetal
                                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                                                                              • 505
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by the Shemp
                                                                                                              exactly right, no one ever made you or anyone else submit to a TGP.
                                                                                                              exactly, I dont, thanks

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                                                                                                                • extreme
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                  • 2120
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by pine
                                                                                                                  Let's say 90% of webmasters agree with you, and they all stop making galleries with explicit hardcore. The other 10% will make a killing, and become the next Hun. Good idea, but unfortunately impractical in today's game.
                                                                                                                  .. maybe beeing the "next Hun" with 1 zillion bookmarked/returning freeloaders that gets off from all the free hardcorecontent and not buying memberships isn't that much worth anyhow?

                                                                                                                  Or is loosing sales over gained (currently) freeloading bookmarkers/returning visitors worth it cause of his future value .. possible future sales from making him interested in something much better then what's free on the site?

                                                                                                                  In that case whatever free porn is available out there, you just gotta sell something harder/longer/better?

                                                                                                                  Just thinking out loud.

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                                                                                                                    • the Shemp
                                                                                                                      congrats to the winners
                                                                                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                                                                                      • 10891
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by 80smetal
                                                                                                                      exactly, I dont, thanks
                                                                                                                      you are a person with no profile...are you not proud of your sites?
                                                                                                                      i use Vacares...so should you
                                                                                                                      Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

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                                                                                                                        • GonePhishing
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                          • 2474
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          It would be hard to put the genie back in the bottle on this one, though i wish that were possible too.
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                                                                                                                            • the Shemp
                                                                                                                              congrats to the winners
                                                                                                                              • Nov 2001
                                                                                                                              • 10891
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              free market economics is a cruel beast...
                                                                                                                              see, before the Berlin Wall came down every gallery could only have a max of 8 pix.... and every model was called Olga or Helga...
                                                                                                                              i kinda like the freedom to give the models different names now...
                                                                                                                              i use Vacares...so should you
                                                                                                                              Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

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                                                                                                                                • sixxxth_sense
                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 2430
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  lets do it

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                                                                                                                                    • quiet
                                                                                                                                      we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 25115
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      too much free porn!!
                                                                                                                                      we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                                                                                                        • the Shemp
                                                                                                                                          congrats to the winners
                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 10891
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by quiet
                                                                                                                                          too much free porn!!
                                                                                                                                          indeed
                                                                                                                                          i use Vacares...so should you
                                                                                                                                          Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

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                                                                                                                                            • Tam
                                                                                                                                              Rude Bitch
                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 8535
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                                                                                                              does anyone else feel that we should limit what is out there for free to softcore and other non-hardcore shots?

                                                                                                                                              tony404 and I were chatting about this and hopefully he will chime in too, but we both feel like there is WAY too much shit out there for free....certain people actually mentioned when they redid their tours to not include hardcore, the signups increased

                                                                                                                                              i just want some feelings and opinions on this matter

                                                                                                                                              I have actually stopped giving away all hardcore content for our affiliates and our galleries will no longer show hardcore
                                                                                                                                              WE were just talking about this about a week or so ago as well. When I had my Teen site redone, we didn't put one spec of hardcore on it anywhere on the tour, made the tour smaller and it went immediately from a 1:575 (in that area) to a 1:150 ratio..... and I HAVE to believe this is exactly why it had such a drastic ratio change.

                                                                                                                                              We are having several of our tours redone and we have already set in place to do this very thing.

                                                                                                                                              Who the hell wants to buy it when they already got their rocks off ten times by the time they get to the join pages?

                                                                                                                                              We're cleaning up our sites too........ so you aren't the only one doing this...... I support this mindset 200%

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                                                                                                                                                • V_RocKs
                                                                                                                                                  Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 32467
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by the Shemp
                                                                                                                                                  you are a person with no profile...are you not proud of your sites?
                                                                                                                                                  Boo-Yah

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                                                                                                                                                    • NiTe-HaWk
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 1196
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      I deffenitley agree. I think nude is as far as it should go for free.
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                                                                                                                                                        • the Shemp
                                                                                                                                                          congrats to the winners
                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 10891
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          i hope you all go softcore, you can go face veils too.. i hear that gets even better conversions..
                                                                                                                                                          i use Vacares...so should you
                                                                                                                                                          Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

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                                                                                                                                                            • quiet
                                                                                                                                                              we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                                                                                                                              • Sep 2001
                                                                                                                                                              • 25115
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by the Shemp
                                                                                                                                                              i hope you all go softcore, you can go face veils too.. i hear that gets even better conversions..
                                                                                                                                                              amish paradise
                                                                                                                                                              we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                                                                                                                                • Jace
                                                                                                                                                                  FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                                  • 35562
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  for those of you i insulted, i am sorry....i was jumping the gun

                                                                                                                                                                  here is the way I see it...

                                                                                                                                                                  those of you that say "I only have hardcore content"....what your telling me is that from picture #1 to picture #120 there is a hard dick with vagina in EVERY SINGLE PICTURE???? wow, no tease shots or leading shots up to the sex??? i doubt that seriously

                                                                                                                                                                  why not take all the super hot shots that lead up to the sex and use them for the galleries? nothing like some serious teasing to get a surfer all revved up

                                                                                                                                                                  NEVER censor your images, that just looks like absolute shit to have a pixelated hardcore scene...just use the pics leading up to that hardcore scene

                                                                                                                                                                  and as for movies....when I buy or shoot content I know there is at least 5-8 minutes of total time that is non-hardcore action....use that for promo or teaser vids outside the members area.

                                                                                                                                                                  i am just rambiling really about shit on my mind....sorry if I insulted or offended anyone (LOL)

                                                                                                                                                                  and for those on here dogging the idea, can you show me where you have tried this option and with what paysites this was with? cause I have a feeling that most of you are just tgp dudes scared that sponsors actually might try this....

                                                                                                                                                                  from those that have tried this, glad to see that your ratios have gotten better....i have heard this numerous times!

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                                                                                                                                                                    • johnbosh
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 8965
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                                                                                                                                      actually, i have chatted with people that have changed the hardcore to softcore on the galleries and their tour is all softcore or implied hardcore...and their sales have gone up in the long term with the same traffic

                                                                                                                                                                      it is all right to be scared of something new, but when your unknowledgable about the outcome of something you have not tried you end up looking unintelligent
                                                                                                                                                                      so it works on long term?

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Jace
                                                                                                                                                                          FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                                          • 35562
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by johnbosh
                                                                                                                                                                          so it works on long term?
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Tam
                                                                                                                                                                          WE were just talking about this about a week or so ago as well. When I had my Teen site redone, we didn't put one spec of hardcore on it anywhere on the tour, made the tour smaller and it went immediately from a 1:575 (in that area) to a 1:150 ratio..... and I HAVE to believe this is exactly why it had such a drastic ratio change.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Radik
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                                                              • 808
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              I have been doing this since I started, it's the only way.

                                                                                                                                                                              One of my best single model sites has 4 full sized pictures
                                                                                                                                                                              for previews thats it's it.

                                                                                                                                                                              example - http://www.lindseymarshal.ca/previews/

                                                                                                                                                                              Why give them enough to rub one out?..

                                                                                                                                                                              Same with galleries why sixteen pics?, why not five, nice full quality ones instead.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • the Shemp
                                                                                                                                                                                  congrats to the winners
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 10891
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Radik
                                                                                                                                                                                  I have been doing this since I started, it's the only way.

                                                                                                                                                                                  One of my best single model sites has 4 full sized pictures
                                                                                                                                                                                  for previews thats it's it.

                                                                                                                                                                                  example - http://www.lindseymarshal.ca/previews/

                                                                                                                                                                                  Why give them enough to rub one out?..

                                                                                                                                                                                  Same with galleries why sixteen pics?, why not five, nice full quality ones instead.
                                                                                                                                                                                  based on your theory, 4 pics is too much, 1 should be adequate, in fact maybe ZERO pics would be perfect.....with just a well written description of the model..
                                                                                                                                                                                  i use Vacares...so should you
                                                                                                                                                                                  Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jace
                                                                                                                                                                                      FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 35562
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by the Shemp
                                                                                                                                                                                      based on your theory, 4 pics is too much, 1 should be adequate, in fact maybe ZERO pics would be perfect.....with just a well written description of the model..
                                                                                                                                                                                      shemp, you seem to be VERY against anyone taking away the free hardcore...I would love a very detailed explanation of why this is

                                                                                                                                                                                      paysites owners have already come here and said their conversion went up when they didn't give away the hardcore...

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • ztik
                                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 5196
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Not everybody gets off on hardcore. Personally, I like softcore porn better. Girls posing in thongs topless, ect..

                                                                                                                                                                                          Stop giving away everything for free, then you will learn what real money is about. Samples are ok, but 10,000 sets / day is kind of crazy.

                                                                                                                                                                                          But anyway I don't really care what any of you do. I will always adapt to whatever the current method of making money is
                                                                                                                                                                                          .

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Kicker
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 7040
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by quiet
                                                                                                                                                                                              too much free porn!!
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • angelsofporn
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 3218
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'm having my dong removed for posterity

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 80smetal
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 505
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by the Shemp
                                                                                                                                                                                                      you are a person with no profile...are you not proud of your sites?
                                                                                                                                                                                                      I have no "sites" (tgp-paysites) per se, just pages in SE's. And about 8k freesites in linklists. I can't possibly list all of them in my profile

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