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AcidMax · 06-06-2002, 12:39 PM

I just have to say that coming from a new webmasters point of view, getting listed on some of the larger TGP sites is extremely difficult. Trying to come up with "clean" galleries, with little advertising, layouts, pictures etc can be a pain. We are expected to put more pictures of unique content with fewer banners on hosts that we pay for. So where does our money come from? Granted I made the decision to get into this business and I am sticking to it, however my point is that I can see both sides.

1. If the webmasters are "GUARANTEED" on the galleries this would be fine. I quite often dont submit to the larger sites more than once every few days anyhow, while I submit to the smaller ones daily. But with that the guidelines should be loosened for those webmasters who are going to be validated. By giving the gallery makers a little more flexibility they have the better oportunity to make money. Everything must be in moderation of course, I still dont think dialers etc should be placed, but we should be able to put more than 1 banner on the page. Clean doesnt mean NO advertising , it just means a nice looking page. We cannot be expected to pay for submissions, pay for content, pay for hosting, etc and not have but 1 banner on the page. It just wont convert. (I am learning that

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2. I can see where others dont want to submit for verification because of credit issues, as well as lack of guarantees. I am a beginner and would not even know how to CHEAT a TGP site. I use some auto-submission programs to reduce my workload. After all automation is the key. I still hand submit to all the larger TGP's and use things like RS for the smaller TGP's. I just think the rules would need to be adjusted properly to make it advantageous for all.

Again, I am still new to the industry and so I don't know what types of cheating takes place etc., but even from what I have read I have a disadvantage to getting posted based on time zone. That alone could be a big difference on if you get posted. I believe Shemp even stated that when he gets through the first X number of submissions he doesnt really pay attention to the rest. I think simple partnership arrangements and an organization of legitimate webmasters is probably the key. If the organization was created handled by a 3rd party non-profit organization, etc it might be to everyones benefit to have some sort of governing authority over blacklists, listings etc. Ok, I am done rambling on....just my thoughts.

peace,
AJ

06-06-2002, 12:39 PM
AcidMax Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: MI Posts: 1,827	I just have to say that coming from a new webmasters point of view, getting listed on some of the larger TGP sites is extremely difficult. Trying to come up with "clean" galleries, with little advertising, layouts, pictures etc can be a pain. We are expected to put more pictures of unique content with fewer banners on hosts that we pay for. So where does our money come from? Granted I made the decision to get into this business and I am sticking to it, however my point is that I can see both sides. 1. If the webmasters are "GUARANTEED" on the galleries this would be fine. I quite often dont submit to the larger sites more than once every few days anyhow, while I submit to the smaller ones daily. But with that the guidelines should be loosened for those webmasters who are going to be validated. By giving the gallery makers a little more flexibility they have the better oportunity to make money. Everything must be in moderation of course, I still dont think dialers etc should be placed, but we should be able to put more than 1 banner on the page. Clean doesnt mean NO advertising , it just means a nice looking page. We cannot be expected to pay for submissions, pay for content, pay for hosting, etc and not have but 1 banner on the page. It just wont convert. (I am learning that ) 2. I can see where others dont want to submit for verification because of credit issues, as well as lack of guarantees. I am a beginner and would not even know how to CHEAT a TGP site. I use some auto-submission programs to reduce my workload. After all automation is the key. I still hand submit to all the larger TGP's and use things like RS for the smaller TGP's. I just think the rules would need to be adjusted properly to make it advantageous for all. Again, I am still new to the industry and so I don't know what types of cheating takes place etc., but even from what I have read I have a disadvantage to getting posted based on time zone. That alone could be a big difference on if you get posted. I believe Shemp even stated that when he gets through the first X number of submissions he doesnt really pay attention to the rest. I think simple partnership arrangements and an organization of legitimate webmasters is probably the key. If the organization was created handled by a 3rd party non-profit organization, etc it might be to everyones benefit to have some sort of governing authority over blacklists, listings etc. Ok, I am done rambling on....just my thoughts. peace, AJ Last edited by AcidMax; 06-06-2002 at 12:41 PM..