Spanking Kids: Brits Reject 'Anti-Spanking' Law

yeah,it worked for me too!

Yes indeedy...
When the gov't took control of the kids away from the parents is when things started happenin'... Lack of respect for parents.. or authority..


Agreed.. ya don't "beat" kids.. but a good ol' ass whoopin' makes ya think about things real quick..

Agreed. Spanking your kids is the only way to let em know they arent gonna be doing it again. I m glad my parents wouldnt take any shit from me.
And hey, I still like spankings ...and need em every once in a while.

beat the shit out of those rats!!

Completely disagree! No matter what, you just don't hit kids.

And I think Britain is backward country regarding this subject. Wasn't it less than 10 years ago when teachers were allowed to hit students?

You tell a parent they need to spank a kid now days and they always respond with something like..."I will not 'beat' my child."

There is a difference between a beating and a nice swat on the tush.

Back when my oldest niece was around 7 she used to stand right in front of the t.v. *like within3-4 feet* and kind of dance back and forth while watching it blocking everyone elses view..I would get so sick of listening to her mother yell at her to sit down and watching her pretend as if she didn't hear her.

So one day after really growing tired of this she gets up and starts the little dance while watching t.v...I didn't say a word I just walked up *swat* on the left cheek open handed.

Her feet disappeared out from underneath her and she landed on her but in the crossed legs position...she knew exactly what she was doing wrong and what I wanted her to do to correct it.

Needless to say, whenever I was watching t.v she never did this again.

In the sixth grade I failed a class , when my mother questioned me on the failure . I was very flippant a so what atitude, she got the yard stick held it like a sword and chased me around the house. Screaming at me the whole time I will beat the care about your studies into you. I never failed again. lol

Kids now threaten their parents with the evil HRS or CPS..something is just not right. These laws will not protect the children that are really getting abused.. it's so silly. If a person is a sick fuck and beats his kids out of anger and hatred, then he will beat his kids.. the ones that suffer from these laws are the parents with out of control children now.

fucked up

Yep and there was alot less bulllshit in school . I had a older friend when he was in private school the nun hit him .He ran home to tell his father, his father said what did you do to drive that poor woman to hit you and hit him again. He learned. Children dont understand reasoning they are children their world needs to be very black and white. Time out doesnt fit into that.

Also when hitting wasnt a captial offense you dont have children shooting up fucking schools.

Kids will do as you do, not as you say.

If you teach your kids that it is an appropriate response to hit someone when they do something you don't like, that's a bad lesson and not practical in the adult world.

In my experience, the kids who got physically punished at home were always more likely to be violent towards their peers.

Instead, use the civilized adult-world justice system; fuck up and you get your freedoms taken away.. your property confiscated.. etc. Prolonged punishments that have a real impact on the quality of their lives. That teaches long-term consequences.

Otherwise, if you need to up the penalties, what are you going to do? Yell louder..? Hit harder...? It starts getting very white trash.

i've been beaten by teachers worse than by my parents..so the teachers got beat by my parents. (thanks dad)..I didnt get any paddlings after that .,,nothing like a 200 lb man telling a scrawny 12 year old that weighs less than 70lbs to bend over in a dress so he can hit her as hard as he can and damn near broke my spine...he missed my ass and clipped the tail bone..why you ask?..because I smiled.

You dont have a clue lol

I would be interested in hearing the whole story of what happened lol

Don't know about the 10 years ago, but I got the wide end of a hickory paddle across my ass in the 8th grade.. and it just took once to let me know that homework wasn't a choice..

Kids don't break easily.. and a pop on the ass isn't going to scar them for life..

I won't try to convince anyone of anything to change their beliefs.. I just know that when you disrespect your parents more than once, a friendly little table discussion isn't gonna do much good.. but a harmless tap on that little butt, which just hurts their feelings, will let them know to do as told.. and many times it just takes that one time and all is well..

Yeah back when I was a kid in school..the worst thing you'd see is gum being chewed...and then in jr.high maybe some back talk etc..high school there was a few serious fights but anyway my point is they now tolerate so much bs at schools...you even have this whole "mainstreaming" thing..where kids with emotional problems or serious learning disabilties like down syndrome are put into regular classes.

While I understand why parents want to do this, I truly think it's at a detriment to our future.

I have some really young cousins..and then my nieces live with me so I've been dealing with the school system a bunch.

One of my cousins a few years ago was in the 5th grade..there was one boy who every single day the teacher was having to deal with.

Most of the class time was spent handling his outbursts etc...and the rest of the kids suffered from this.

Sorry but I say give them a chance..but after x amount of strikes it's back to remedial classes or controlled environments for the aggressive kids.

It's like the old saying laws are for people who don't obey them

It's like gun ownership you are only keeping guns out of the hands of people who abide by the law.

Amen

Kids aborb. Those that grow up in catholic homes are more likely to be catholic. Those that grow up in republican homes are more likely to be republicans. Those that grow up in smoking homes are more likely to smoke. Those who grow up molested are more likely to be pedos. Those who grow up in violent homes are more likely to be violent. etc etc etc

Those who were spanked are more likey to spank.. and be greatful for it.. because mommy and daddy can't be bad.. because mommy and daddy love me.. I must have deserved it..

..because humans have a pathetic tendency to accept whatever they grew up with as 'right', without applying any rational thought to it.

Just look at how many people think it's totally fine to mutilate baby genitals... just because that's what was done to them...

sick species we are.

Just because it may "help" getting the child to do what you want them to in short term, I think it is an admission of failure the moment you hit your kids. Because then you admit you have nothing else to do than use physical power.

I don't have children myself and has never been hit (although I was close to once), but I think that it creates a relationship built on fear rather than respect between child and parent.

It may not prevent parents from hitting their kids just making it illegal, but it sends a signal that it is not accepted by the society as a whole, just as prohibiting minors from drinking and smoking does.

I agree, there's a difference between flat out beating a kid and spanking a kid. I was spanked as well when I was younger for doing bad stuff. Other kids I also knew that were never spanked or disciplined didn't turn out as well. Not implying that all people that weren't disciplined as kids are bad apples today, but discipline helps you grow up to be more responsible.

Exactly

STFU YOU FILTHY FUCKING PORNOGRAPHER WHO PEDDLES SMUT TO THE KIDS!

(now wasn't that a stupid statement? Yours is too)

It's not the physical aspect I think is the worst. It is the aspect of using physical power towards a person that is much smaller than yourself. From the moment a child has been spanked the first time, it is always going to fear what will happen next time he/she has done something bad, which will of course inevitably happen.

hell yea spanking and belts, and hell my mom broke a couple wooden spoons on my ass .... I laughed my ass off when it broke and mom got even more pised off LOL

Respect IS based on fear if nothing else fear of what the person will think of you.

I think that's the whole point

Mr. prodan was his name and he was the shop teacher.. big muscle bound guy..no fat on that body. He had the "Darth Paddle" was a long ass paddle with way too many holes in it too count. Although I had a's in shop class..this guy still loved to be an asshole. He would come to class and just stand there waiting for anyone to crack a smile or make a noise.. this was a routine he did with all his classes. My friend beside me started laughing at his ass..because he really was quite ridiculous looking..lol. I looked at my friend with a glare but couldnt help but crack a smile too..Betty..Keith..in the hall now..and out comes Darth Paddle.. I happend to be wearing a dress that day and this fucker told me to bend over.. I said "hell no!" I wanted to call my dad and go to the pricniples office.. old prodan was having nothing of that..called another teacher over to witness..pushed me against the wall and nailed my poor tail bone.. i crumpled on the floor cause i couldnt stand up right. I was livid.. i told that fucker he was going to regret this..I went to the payphone..called my mom..told her what happened.. Dad got the full story (and I didnt dare lie to make him look the fool either)..he roared up on his Harley to the school about a week later..snatched that fucking asshole up (after shcool was let out)and he thumped him up pretty good. The teacher knew he was being a bitch and took his asswhooping.. I was transferred out of all his classes..and he never said shit to me ever again...he deserved it and more..

its called disapline people! go to your room dont do shit these days when ever kid has playstation ,phone, computer, etc

Yes, but that is far from the ideal situation... Even though we can go to prison for lots of crimes, criminals rarely consider that before doing the crime. Children most likely won't consider the consequences of their actions before they do it, in which case there is no point in spanking them out of frustration or anger.

Damn, what a sicko...

I don't think so. Respect is something positive, and fear is the opposite.

I disagree

You don't know shit about raising kids. They will test you every step of the way and a good spanking is what they need sometimes to get them back in line. They need discipline to make them feel secure and loved.

And it allows you to just look at them in a certain way and get instant respect . . . lol.

OTOH, we don't use spankings that often. Just when they've pushed too far.

So do what that one dad did, and sell the kids playstation on ebay.

If you were a kid, would you rather take a spanking or lose your gaming-console forever?

As an adult, if you were convicted of, say.. drunk driving... would you rather take a caneing to the backside, or sit in prison for a long time?

If your wife was killed by a drunk driver, would you rather he recieve a whipping, or go to prison for a long time?

Long-term punishments are worse, and more of a deterrant.

I'm all for discipline.. I don't even like children... and when they're talking though a movie I share the temptation to beat them... but discipline should be calm, rational, and ethically superior.

Don't forget that you're ultimately trying to produce a calm, rational, ethical person.

.. saying that "hitting is bad" and then hitting a kid as punishment for hitting his sister is contradictory, confusing, and makes you/the world seem unpredictable, breeding distrust.

Respect is based on admiration, not fear. And parents who are obsessed with 'respect' are usually just petty tyrants who are more concerned with their own ego, as opposed to the quality of the person they create.

Sheeeeit!!!

When I was in school it was back in the days before psychiatrists and school psychology was allowed!

Not only did the teacher and even the Janitor have the authority to beat your ass if you messed up but the walk home was worse!

Every neighbor along the way would automatically know what you did and had the authority to whip your ass too! Not to mention folks driving by who also had that authority!

You did NOT get out of a deserved spanking when I grew up! You didn't have all the crime and what-not either! I remember seeing grown men, even Mafia guys getting a beating by their elderly mothers if they sassed back! It was okay to rob and tear ass but it depended on when, where and whom!

People back then took no shit and if you were stupid enough to do something that alerted the police you PRAYED that the police would get you BEFORE your parents or kinfolk did or you might not make it TO jail!

Often the cops would drag a guy HOME and you never saw so much kicking and screaming in your life! I remember hard assed gangster wannabees crying like babies and four cops holding him down so his ma or pa could get a good lick in on him! And he had better not run away or it was ten times worse! They'd call the sherrif in and brother, you did NOT want the sheriff to come by your house looking for you. It was a guaranteed beatin' like no tomorrow. Jails weren't crowded either! Judges used to send guys TO jail just to protect them from their families! I recall vividly some mothers marching up TO the jail, demanding the release of their kid or demanding to be let INTO the jail just so's they could whup up on a guy.

I remember guys cutting down those old weeping willow trees so their mothers couldn't make switches out of them.

You really, really had to do something incredibly stupid to get a beating though. The worst offense was sassing an elder back or running from a beating. That was worse than death!

Spitting, sassing back, stealing, cussing, walking funny, acting up in church, you woulda wished they had the electric chair than have to meet that hickory or new england pine switch!

There's a difference between spankings and abuse. In those days there was no child abuse and when it did happen the parents got either locked away or lynched or dumped in the river and the kids adopted by another family. No courts, no juries, just done.

Abusing a kid was unheard of back then cause folks still believed in ropes and low tree branches! Still do in some parts!

What's happened here is too much intervention by eggheads. There's a way to know if a kid has been abused but it's on a case by case basis. My dad spanked me twice my entire life and that was that. My mom was the whipper. Had to have that switch! Yet my dad knew that a moment of clear conversation always solved the problem. Spankings are a last, last resort when a kid's actions could endanger their lives or the lives and property of others.

Yet today, you spank a kid and ten cops show up, throw you in jail, force you AND the kid on psychiatric drugs and then FINE you to pay for the medical costs.

And we wonder why kids show up in schools with heavy weapons and dope.

Wait a minute, what was the name of that American kid who got his ass whipped in Singapore 'round 10 years ago for spraying graffiti?

Whole buncha courts and lawyers tried to save him but to no good?

If you wanna see a criminal justice system that works, check out Singapore. They bullshit-NOT! Repeat offenders??? Nope.

Believe you me, if we had public canings like they have in Singapore, crime would drop like a fucking rock.

True, I don't, but I still have some basic principles that I wouldn't change no matter what.

Discipline does not equal spanking. Like someone else suggested there are plenty of other ways to punish them when they have done something bad. Like taking away some of their privileges.

There is a reason that there isn't a punishment called spanking for grown ups... They wouldn't put up with it - kids have no choice.

My is a teacher and there is little she can do when a student becomes out of control. They are not afraid to visit the principal, because he has very little control either. Remember when we were at school and a visit to the principal's office was damn scarey. The Do-Gooders of society have got the laws so they aren't even supposed to say "no" to a student.

I'd be glad if my kids mucked-up at school and the teacher gave them a good kick up the arse.

There is a clear difference between disciplining them and bashing them... no bruising, marking or hitting the head.

Yeah and if there were cameras covering every sq. feet of the country it would be much easier to find the offender. But then all freedom would be lost, how cool is that!?

It's strange that 95% of the countries that have these public spankings etc. are normally considered backward e.g. countries in the middle east etc.

You are Lost!
Step back from your computer, Go to the Mall, those kids have not Been Beat or Punished...

No one said you have to Spank your Kids for Everything, the Very First Post from Greg
I don't know about you guys, but when I grew up you got a spanking in relationship to the level of fucking up you did.

Ive never been spanked in my whole life ... only spanked some ladies asses :0

and to further your point kids who grow up in homes that are punished correctly, not hit every time, learn they must pay for the bad things they do.. and will raise a disciplined home, when they get older.

Take a look at the Prisons..

You are confusing Beatings, and abuse, and homes where there is DV and Alcohol.
I am saying a stable environment, done correctly, not just the Bad cases you are talking about.

Trust me, if it was not for my Fathers Stern Guiding Had,
I would of spent some time in Jail......

Oh, I have 2 sisters, both parents smoked, None of us smoke.

When I was young my mom went too far in the spanking department...she used a leather belt. There were many times where I was kept inside for days until the bleeding/swelling/bruising and welts went down enough for me to go outside. It was abuse, plain and simple. That was NOT spanking, that was a woman with a problem taking it out on an innocent child.

Having said that, i actually believe in "spanking" in CERTAIN situations. These situations have only come up less than 4 or 5 times each in my kids entire childhood.

They all got their first slap (yes ONE small slap on the behind, over their clothes) doing the same thing. What was it? Stepping on the road. First try "NO", second try "I SAID NO" third time...a slap. None of them ever stepped on the road again unless I took them on it by the hand. I have always reserved the slap for situations I felt were dangerous. The other normal childhood things, time-out in their rooms always worked fine.

Whutchoo talkin' bout Jeppe???

Singapore has one of the harshest yet progressive criminal justice systems on Earth. And they have one of the lowest unemployment, highest literacy levels, outstanding social engineering that's envied the world over! A kid in Singapore will grow up to learn at least 3 languages and be fluent and literate in all three! Jobs are damned near guaranteed in Singapore and worldwide. I KNOW because I get their statistics each issue! Got a lotta friends in Singapore and they work hard, have clean homes and don't bullshit with crime.

If you get busted in Singapore you end up in jail. If you committed a crime out of ignorance then they put you on a mandatory educational/vocational program where you're damned near guaranteed a job for life when you get out. That's it! You learn to earn. Now if you fuck up again? It's your ass.

They learned lonnnng ago that there are two ways of prevention and rehabilitation. Education and an occasional ass whipping to remind the soul and the body what's what.

Wyldblyss, I agree and sympathize with you 100%. Sure my mom went overboard and I had many a bruise and welt. My dad on the other hand I obeyed MORE because he talked it out but let me know early on what a spanking was for. Yet I understand now when and why to use a spanking. My dad had a thing about if you are angry, don't spank. Cool off first. Spankings were reserved for if a kid did something dangerous. Other than that smacks and tugs and such were for reminders.

Back then people still shot one another for just looking at them wrong. So you had to have your social skills and sassing back meant a good one was coming.

Sure some parents do get out of hand and that's when the police and courts come in. Everything in good measure. Yet sometimes both sides of the fence can go overboard.

My nieces and nephews and godchildren NEVER act up when I'm around. I have mastered "The Look" and "The Glare" of 'no bullshittinus' and they snap to right there and then.

That may be, and it is impressive, but I highly doubt any of that success is related to public canings. More likely it is the resources put into education and rehabilitation.

My point was that mostly the radical islamic/religious countries have this kind of public physical punishment. Countries we normally don't like to compare ourselves with.

Kids need to be beaten. Stupid little creatures. Reward them if they do something good mentality is fucked up, just spank the little bastard if it does something bad.