why can't WEBMASTERS make sites MULTI-BROWSER compatible? fuck.

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  • Veterans Day
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2003
    • 8403
    #51
    IE will be king for many many years to come, as long as it comes packaged with windows. Please remember the overwhelming majority of surfers are clueless and will NEVER EVER change browsers. On that note I love my IE. Just so used to it and I see alot of fucked up sites and shit with those other browsers. IE for me for awhile I guess
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      • =^..^=
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2002
        • 6935
        #52
        Originally posted by Kimmykim
        I hate to interrupt here, but um, if I have credit card holding surfers who are 95% IE because it comes loaded on their computers, and I have geekys and techys and freeloaders that aren't, there's really no choice. If I were a site owner these days I'd be designing for the majority of SURFERS, not resellers, to spend their money with me.

        I guess things like Flash and wmv files are definitely out with this crowd.
        Most surfers arent even aware that there ARE other browsers
        and the ones that are, are usually installing those "browsers" which are just souped up versions of IE.
        Ypou make a good point about FLash too KK
        I've notices a number of browsers are disabling flash because surfers want "faster loading pages"
        I don't design in flash now for that reason.

        I do what CD does - builes sites in Text Pad
        there was no such thing as a wysiwyg when I first hit the net
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          • M_M
            Confirmed User
            • May 2004
            • 1167
            #53
            dont use Opera, it's not w3 compatible
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              • bret
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2003
                • 766
                #54
                Originally posted by nastyking
                Cmon, stick to your FireFox/Mozilla crap if you want to view W3C compliant pages only.
                and i thought your alias was dumb.

                ANY browser can view standardized website. that is the whole point to building a page that is "W3C" compliant, you are assured that all surfers view it in a similar way.

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                  • CDSmith
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • May 2001
                    • 51460
                    #55
                    Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                    I stopped testing my shit years ago. It works everytime without fail. I'm goooood.
                    Cool. But these newer guys... some of them obviously need to check things out. Honestly I just build my stuff now and that's that..... my post was more for these other guys.


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                      • Ash@phpFX
                        Confirmed User
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 4292
                        #56
                        This is a 2 sided coin, IE interprets non w3c compliant HTML very well, so you can see a page even if the webmaster has not written it to exact specs, Mozilla, Opera and other browsers do this too, but not to the same extent.

                        Because of IEs very good interpretation, webmasters have gotten lazy with their code, they dont have to write perfect HTML and it still works fine.

                        There is only one way to get rid of this problem, and that if IE, Mozilla, Opera etc all did away with their interprative radings and only used w3c specs. This would mean everyone would have to write HTML properly.

                        The obvious problem is that 99.9999% of pages on the net wouldnt work any more. I dont know of a single page of any decent size thats 100% w3c compliant, do you?

                        Hell, GFY isnt even w3c compliant.

                        The best you can do is write your own pages in w3c terms so everyone can view it.

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                          • pine
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 1373
                            #57
                            lol. Good thread. I am entertained. Thank you all!
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                              • bret
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 766
                                #58
                                Originally posted by asher
                                This is a 2 sided coin, IE interprets non w3c compliant HTML very well, so you can see a page even if the webmaster has not written it to exact specs, Mozilla, Opera and other browsers do this too, but not to the same extent.

                                Because of IEs very good interpretation, webmasters have gotten lazy with their code, they dont have to write perfect HTML and it still works fine.

                                There is only one way to get rid of this problem, and that if IE, Mozilla, Opera etc all did away with their interprative radings and only used w3c specs. This would mean everyone would have to write HTML properly.

                                The obvious problem is that 99.9999% of pages on the net wouldnt work any more. I dont know of a single page of any decent size thats 100% w3c compliant, do you?

                                Hell, GFY isnt even w3c compliant.

                                The best you can do is write your own pages in w3c terms so everyone can view it.
                                there is this fairly large search engine... i think the url is http://www.google.com not sure if you have heard of it... but it is 100% "w3c compliant". maybe you should look into it.

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                                  • Ash@phpFX
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Nov 2003
                                    • 4292
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by bret
                                    there is this fairly large search engine... i think the url is http://www.google.com not sure if you have heard of it... but it is 100% "w3c compliant". maybe you should look into it.
                                    im sorry for your ignorance, google's code is not 100% w3c compliant

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                                      • Ash@phpFX
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Nov 2003
                                        • 4292
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by bret
                                        there is this fairly large search engine... i think the url is http://www.google.com not sure if you have heard of it... but it is 100% "w3c compliant". maybe you should look into it.
                                        in fact, here is a list of 40 of the errors just on the main page, i can actually see more myself

                                        http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...www.google.com

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                                          • Robertf
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Feb 2004
                                            • 392
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by iwantchixx
                                            can you reword that so it makes fucking sense? I dont want IE users, when did I say I wanted IE users for anything?

                                            You complaining about a sponsor that has a site optimized only for IE .. and you have to change browser so you can visit that site.

                                            Wel if that sponsor just want IE users .. why bother going there if you don't use IE ... there are more sponsers out there ...

                                            And if you realy want to visit that site anyway .. and find it worth to change browser for that ... why complain ?
                                            ....

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                                              • extreme
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 2120
                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                I hate to interrupt here, but um, if I have credit card holding surfers who are 95% IE because it comes loaded on their computers, and I have geekys and techys and freeloaders that aren't, there's really no choice. If I were a site owner these days I'd be designing for the majority of SURFERS, not resellers, to spend their money with me.

                                                I guess things like Flash and wmv files are definitely out with this crowd.
                                                .

                                                Originally posted by Robertf
                                                You complaining about a sponsor that has a site optimized only for IE .. and you have to change browser so you can visit that site.

                                                Wel if that sponsor just want IE users .. why bother going there if you don't use IE ... there are more sponsers out there ...

                                                And if you realy want to visit that site anyway .. and find it worth to change browser for that ... why complain ?
                                                ... I dont know if I totally misread the initial post but I got it as iwantchixx complained about the Affiliateprograms adminareas not beeing compatible with firefox etc (like silvercashs admin requires IE for example) and Not the pornsites thoose affiliateprograms have available (even if it wouldn't hurt for them to work good for the 10-15% of non IE users as well).

                                                From his post: "... just to log into some sponsors because menus don't work or even fail to load. Sometimes a few sponsor even produce blank pages or the inability to login at all.."

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